CITY OF SALISBURY MAYORS PRESEASON CUP 2014
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CITY OF SALISBURY MAYORS PRESEASON CUP 2014
It will be the 6th year of the competition & it continues to be well supported by clubs, players & spectators. There again will be 8 teams participating from SAASL clubs that are based in the City of Salisbury council area including Parafield Gardens, Para Hills East, Para Hills West, Salisbury Florina, Salisbury Inter, Ingle Farm, Pontian Eagles & Adelaide Pumas who have joined us at short notice. The success of the competition is due to the high quality preseason games played in a well organised competition that builds stronger relationships with our neighbouring Amateur League clubs. Congratulations again to Salisbury Inter Soccer Club for winning the cup in 2013.
The dates for 2014 will be same as previous years being Sunday 9th, 16th & 23rd February for the preliminary rounds & Sunday 2nd March for the finals.
Participating clubs all get the opportunity to host the event on a rotation basis. The preliminary rounds & finals hosts for 2014 are yet to be determined. Further details & draw for the Mayors Cup will be posted following the meeting of clubs in December. Thanks again to the clubs for supporting the competiton & look forward to what will be an exciting preseason again in 2014.
The dates for 2014 will be same as previous years being Sunday 9th, 16th & 23rd February for the preliminary rounds & Sunday 2nd March for the finals.
Participating clubs all get the opportunity to host the event on a rotation basis. The preliminary rounds & finals hosts for 2014 are yet to be determined. Further details & draw for the Mayors Cup will be posted following the meeting of clubs in December. Thanks again to the clubs for supporting the competiton & look forward to what will be an exciting preseason again in 2014.
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+1SID wrote:Good work Lefty
Should be renamed the Lefty Cup. He does a heck of a lot more than the council.
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The Draw for the 2014 Cup is as follows;
WEEK 1 SUNDAY 9th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Para Hills West vs Adelaide Pumas (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Pontian Eagles vs Para Hills East (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Salisbury Florina vs Salisbury Inter (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
WEEK 2 SUNDAY 16th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Ingle Farm (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Para Hills West vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Para Hills East vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Inter (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
WEEK 3 SUNDAY 23rd FEBRUARY
Group 1 - Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Parafield Gardens (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Ingle Farm vs Para Hills West (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Salisbury Inter vs Para Hills East (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
WEEK 4 SUNDAY 2nd MARCH - FINALS
Major Final - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Pitch 1 (2pm kick off) - 2nd Group 1 vs 2nd Group 2
Pitch 1 (4pm kick off) - 1st Group 1 vs 1st Group 2
Minor Final - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Pitch 2 (1pm kick off) - 4th Group 1 vs 4th Group 2
Pitch 2 (3pm kick off) - 3rd Group 1 vs 3rd Group 2
Reserves Final - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Pitch 1 - 1st Group 1 vs 1st Group 2 (12pm KO)
(Note: Kick off times may change due to weather conditions)
Best of luck to all involved.
PREVIOUS WINNERS
2013 - Salisbury Inter
2012 - Para Hills East
2011 - Parafield Gardens
2010 - Salisbury Florina
2009 - Parafield Gardens
WEEK 1 SUNDAY 9th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Para Hills West vs Adelaide Pumas (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Pontian Eagles vs Para Hills East (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Salisbury Florina vs Salisbury Inter (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
WEEK 2 SUNDAY 16th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Ingle Farm (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Para Hills West vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Para Hills East vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Inter (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
WEEK 3 SUNDAY 23rd FEBRUARY
Group 1 - Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Parafield Gardens (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Ingle Farm vs Para Hills West (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Salisbury Inter vs Para Hills East (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
WEEK 4 SUNDAY 2nd MARCH - FINALS
Major Final - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Pitch 1 (2pm kick off) - 2nd Group 1 vs 2nd Group 2
Pitch 1 (4pm kick off) - 1st Group 1 vs 1st Group 2
Minor Final - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Pitch 2 (1pm kick off) - 4th Group 1 vs 4th Group 2
Pitch 2 (3pm kick off) - 3rd Group 1 vs 3rd Group 2
Reserves Final - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Pitch 1 - 1st Group 1 vs 1st Group 2 (12pm KO)
(Note: Kick off times may change due to weather conditions)
Best of luck to all involved.
PREVIOUS WINNERS
2013 - Salisbury Inter
2012 - Para Hills East
2011 - Parafield Gardens
2010 - Salisbury Florina
2009 - Parafield Gardens
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Why at gardens do the A and B grade play basically at the same time, but at Florina they play one after the other?
At least B grade players can be seen by the A grade coach for at least half a game having the times at 1 and 3
At least B grade players can be seen by the A grade coach for at least half a game having the times at 1 and 3
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Going to have two A grade games on the small pitch for the minor finals?
Playing all ressies games on the small pitch is almost tempting to come for a run... lol
Playing all ressies games on the small pitch is almost tempting to come for a run... lol
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C grade teams arent playing in the Mayors Cup Joggerjogger wrote:Going to have two A grade games on the small pitch for the minor finals?
Playing all ressies games on the small pitch is almost tempting to come for a run... lol
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Maybe I'll stick to walking the golf course then!Mr X wrote:C grade teams arent playing in the Mayors Cup Joggerjogger wrote:Going to have two A grade games on the small pitch for the minor finals?
Playing all ressies games on the small pitch is almost tempting to come for a run... lol

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Quite simply its comes down to facilities at Gardens there is only one set of changerooms however at Florina they can utilise two sets of changerooms (Florina/Inter) at the same venue so it makes sense to have the ko times as they are except when Florina & Inter play each other (same as last year).Getinthere wrote:Why at gardens do the A and B grade play basically at the same time, but at Florina they play one after the other?
At least B grade players can be seen by the A grade coach for at least half a game having the times at 1 and 3
Sorry to disappoint Jogger but Gardens will have 2 full sizes pitches marked out for preseason cup so start running.jogger wrote:Going to have two A grade games on the small pitch for the minor finals?
Playing all ressies games on the small pitch is almost tempting to come for a run... lol
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This is getting closer, got a call from the SAASL saying we need to get organized with the insurance for this tournament.
For the insurance it is best to fill out the new team pads, available from the SAASL at $15 each
For the insurance it is best to fill out the new team pads, available from the SAASL at $15 each
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Insurance is already organised SAASL have the cup draw & will charge to your club $30/team each game same as every year. Make sure teamsheets are filled in can be old or new ones with all players & no need for rego numbers.Robbo wrote:This is getting closer, got a call from the SAASL saying we need to get organized with the insurance for this tournament.
For the insurance it is best to fill out the new team pads, available from the SAASL at $15 each
Catch you in a couple of weeks.
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Well the wait for some action is almost over & looks like being a fine day this Sunday 9th February with a forcast of 31deg.
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Para Hills West vs Adelaide Pumas (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO) - I hear Pumas have had some good numbers out to training with Jack & the boys very keen for some preseason action & they will certainly get that against Westies who always play a physical game.
Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO) - Big game first up for both teams who have always enjoyed hard fought games every time they meet whether its preseason or league games & this one will be no exception.
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Pontian Eagles vs Para Hills East (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO) - Easties have always enjoyed the Mayors Cup & use it to gain some momentum heading into the season proper & will look to get a good start against Pontian that will likely have a new look with Ivan Zafran back at the helm.
Salisbury Florina vs Salisbury Inter (A's 4pm KO & B's 2pm KO) - Florina with some new young signings will want to stamp there return to Div 1 against their neighbour Inter who will look to follow up with their winning of the cup last year.
Good luck to all involved & looking forward to some quality Amatuer League games to kick off the new season.
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Para Hills West vs Adelaide Pumas (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO) - I hear Pumas have had some good numbers out to training with Jack & the boys very keen for some preseason action & they will certainly get that against Westies who always play a physical game.
Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO) - Big game first up for both teams who have always enjoyed hard fought games every time they meet whether its preseason or league games & this one will be no exception.
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Pontian Eagles vs Para Hills East (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO) - Easties have always enjoyed the Mayors Cup & use it to gain some momentum heading into the season proper & will look to get a good start against Pontian that will likely have a new look with Ivan Zafran back at the helm.
Salisbury Florina vs Salisbury Inter (A's 4pm KO & B's 2pm KO) - Florina with some new young signings will want to stamp there return to Div 1 against their neighbour Inter who will look to follow up with their winning of the cup last year.
Good luck to all involved & looking forward to some quality Amatuer League games to kick off the new season.
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Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO) - Big game first up for both teams who have always enjoyed hard fought games every time they meet whether its preseason or league games & this one will be no exception.
Will the Farm have a new sweeper playing against his old team ..??
Will the Farm have a new sweeper playing against his old team ..??
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count us in for 2015
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Good to see we are getting some favorable weather for Sunday..Rodent wrote:Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO) - Big game first up for both teams who have always enjoyed hard fought games every time they meet whether its preseason or league games & this one will be no exception.
Will the Farm have a new sweeper playing against his old team ..??
The chance of isolated showers and thunderstorms in the morning. Sunny afternoon. Winds southwesterly 15 to 20 km/h turning southeasterly 20 to 25 km/h during the evening. Max 31
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Good luck to everyone this weekend, always fun playing against Gardens over the past few years. If I'm free I will down for a burger and beer!Robbo wrote:Good to see we are getting some favorable weather for Sunday..Rodent wrote:Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO) - Big game first up for both teams who have always enjoyed hard fought games every time they meet whether its preseason or league games & this one will be no exception.
Will the Farm have a new sweeper playing against his old team ..??
The chance of isolated showers and thunderstorms in the morning. Sunny afternoon. Winds southwesterly 15 to 20 km/h turning southeasterly 20 to 25 km/h during the evening. Max 31
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Pontians have forfeit the reserves game tomorrow against PHE due to not having enough players
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Yeh we are just seeing if we can get a c team together to fill the void, will let you know at 7pm ishfowler_23 wrote:Pontians have forfeit the reserves game tomorrow against PHE due to not having enough players
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Perhaps you could use a similar model to arrange a "city of Tea tree gully" cup?jackdogs wrote:count us in for 2015

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well we tried, we could only get 8 at short notice, sorry PHE, sorry MickRobbo wrote:Yeh we are just seeing if we can get a c team together to fill the void, will let you know at 7pm ishfowler_23 wrote:Pontians have forfeit the reserves game tomorrow against PHE due to not having enough players
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That sucks at this early stage!fowler_23 wrote:Pontians have forfeit the reserves game tomorrow against PHE due to not having enough players
Plenty of rotation for the first team now though!
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RESULTS WEEK 1 SUNDAY 9th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Para Hills West vs Adelaide Pumas
B's 8-0
A's 3-1
Goals - (PHW) Harrison, Fletcher, TOG; (AP) ?
Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens
B's 3-0
A's 3-1
Goals - (PG) Pearce; (IF) ?
LADDER GROUP 1
Farm 3pts +2
Westies 3pts +2
Parafield 0pts -2
Pumas 0pts - 2
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Pontian Eagles vs Para Hills East
B's 0-3 forfeit
A's 2-2
Goals - (PHE) Smith, Winter; (PE) ?
Salisbury Florina vs Salisbury Inter
B's 2-3
A's 3-1
Goals - (SF) Docherty, Claridge Vannini; (SI) ?
LADDER GROUP 2
Florina 3pts +2
Easties 1pt
Pontian 1pt
Inter 0pts -2
WEEK 2 SUNDAY 16th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Ingle Farm (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Para Hills West vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Para Hills East vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Inter (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Para Hills West vs Adelaide Pumas
B's 8-0
A's 3-1
Goals - (PHW) Harrison, Fletcher, TOG; (AP) ?
Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens
B's 3-0
A's 3-1
Goals - (PG) Pearce; (IF) ?
LADDER GROUP 1
Farm 3pts +2
Westies 3pts +2
Parafield 0pts -2
Pumas 0pts - 2
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Pontian Eagles vs Para Hills East
B's 0-3 forfeit
A's 2-2
Goals - (PHE) Smith, Winter; (PE) ?
Salisbury Florina vs Salisbury Inter
B's 2-3
A's 3-1
Goals - (SF) Docherty, Claridge Vannini; (SI) ?
LADDER GROUP 2
Florina 3pts +2
Easties 1pt
Pontian 1pt
Inter 0pts -2
WEEK 2 SUNDAY 16th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Ingle Farm (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Para Hills West vs Parafield Gardens (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Para Hills East vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Inter (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
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A'slefty wrote:Ingle Farm vs Parafield Gardens
B's 3-0
A's 3-1
Goals - (PG) Pearce; (IF) ?
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Good start from the Farmers...

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I wouldn't take too much from these results, all four sides involve were well undermanned and you can put the two wins down to moments of brilliance from two very good players in their respective divisions.swannsong wrote:Good start from the Farmers...
Big thanks to Gardens for hosting the games, was a good day look forward to this sunday

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I don't take too much from these games....was just bumping the topic for strategic reasons....Outlaw 2.0 wrote:I wouldn't take too much from these results, all four sides involve were well undermanned and you can put the two wins down to moments of brilliance from two very good players in their respective divisions.swannsong wrote:Good start from the Farmers...
Big thanks to Gardens for hosting the games, was a good day look forward to this sunday


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RESULTS WEEK 2 SUNDAY 16th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Ingle Farm
B's 0-12
A's 0-6
Goals - (IF)
Para Hills West vs Parafield Gardens
B's 3-0
A's 3-2
Goals - (PHW) Hall 2, Fletcher; (PG) Ebomo, Arambatzis
LADDER GROUP 1
Farm 6pts +8
Westies 6pts +3
Parafield 0pts -3
Pumas 0pts -8
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Para Hills East vs Salisbury Florina
B's 3-3
A's 0-4
Goals - ?
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Inter
B's 0-3 forfeit (thanks to Mod Jets for filling in at short notice)
A's 0-0
LADDER GROUP 2
Florina 6pts +6
Pontian 2pts
Inter 1pt -2
Easties 1pt -4
WEEK 3 SUNDAY 23rd FEBRUARY
Group 1 - Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Parafield Gardens (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Ingle Farm vs Para Hills West (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Salisbury Inter vs Para Hills East (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Ingle Farm
B's 0-12
A's 0-6
Goals - (IF)
Para Hills West vs Parafield Gardens
B's 3-0
A's 3-2
Goals - (PHW) Hall 2, Fletcher; (PG) Ebomo, Arambatzis
LADDER GROUP 1
Farm 6pts +8
Westies 6pts +3
Parafield 0pts -3
Pumas 0pts -8
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Para Hills East vs Salisbury Florina
B's 3-3
A's 0-4
Goals - ?
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Inter
B's 0-3 forfeit (thanks to Mod Jets for filling in at short notice)
A's 0-0
LADDER GROUP 2
Florina 6pts +6
Pontian 2pts
Inter 1pt -2
Easties 1pt -4
WEEK 3 SUNDAY 23rd FEBRUARY
Group 1 - Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Parafield Gardens (A's 2pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Ingle Farm vs Para Hills West (A's 4pm KO & B's 3pm KO)
Group 2 - @ Salisbury Florina, Nangari Drive Salisbury North
Salisbury Inter vs Para Hills East (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
Pontian Eagles vs Salisbury Florina (A's 3pm KO & B's 1pm KO)
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3 Edwards, 1 Fedele, 1 Cox, 1 Aldolefty wrote:RESULTS WEEK 2 SUNDAY 16th FEBRUARY
Group 1 - @ Parafield Gardens, Bradman Road Parafield Gardens
Adelaide Pumas vs Ingle Farm
B's 0-12
A's 0-6
Goals - (IF)
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