St Clair Redevelopment

[guti]

Will this affect the amateur league clubs and the NWJSA that use the grounds on Saturdays and Sundays?

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

[Wraith]

Will this affect the amateur league clubs and the NWJSA that use the grounds on Saturdays and Sundays?

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

It will, however we have made our thoughts known to the council and the Minister involved and are for it.

[Aldo Serena]

You are for the redevelopment?

[Wraith]

You are for the redevelopment?

Definitely. In my opinion it will allow Woodville as a suburb to progress, and we will also have new playing surface and facilities, at a cost of roughly $2 million.

[Aldo Serena]

Fair enough - as long as you are guaranteed new playing fields and facilities.

[Wraith]

Fair enough - as long as you are guaranteed new playing fields and facilities.

We have been kept in the loop about the land swap and one of the conditions is a new sporting ground with new facilities, so I don;t see the council/developers backtracking away from it.

Also, in my opinion, will revitalise Woodville Rd.

[Steve#4]

We'll see if it goes ahead...People power and votes in the labor heartland may determine this outcome.

There are alot of constituents that would rather the satus quo from what I hear.

I can't agree that units and town houses will be a better look for Woodville rd compared to parklands, see what happen I suppose..

[Wraith]

We'll see if it goes ahead...People power and votes in the labor heartland may determine this outcome.

There are alot of constituents that would rather the satus quo from what I hear.

I can't agree that units and town houses will be a better look for Woodville rd compared to parklands, see what happen I suppose..

Will be interesting times, don;t see the decision being overturned however.

[Steve#4]

Just remember Cruey there is an election next year...

Never underestimate the power of the vote when it comes to these jelly backed polutitions.

I hope it goes ahead for the clubs sake but there are alot of people in the area that have used the equity in their homes
to borrow to renovate.....They can't afford to have their properties devalued.

[Wraith]

Just remember Cruey there is an election next year...

Never underestimate the power of the vote when it comes to these jelly backed polutitions.

I hope it goes ahead for the clubs sake but there are alot of people in the area that have used the equity in their homes
to borrow to renovate.....They can't afford to have their properties devalued.

Franco, speaking with one of the ministers he is quite aware that there is an election, and will soon be releasing the main reasons for the land swap, as was also quoted in the Sunday mail.

Also, you'll find that the new development will increase the property values, rather than decrease them.

Anyway, it's a valid argument and there are those for and against it, but the council have made their decision, even though it is up for consultation again, and the TOD (Transport Orientated Development) has a big impact on the tramline, so, unfortunately for some, I can't see the decision being overturned.

But, if history has taught us anything, I could very well be wrong.

[Steve#4]

Just remember Cruey there is an election next year...

Never underestimate the power of the vote when it comes to these jelly backed polutitions.

I hope it goes ahead for the clubs sake but there are alot of people in the area that have used the equity in their homes
to borrow to renovate.....They can't afford to have their properties devalued.

Franco, speaking with one of the ministers he is quite aware that there is an election, and will soon be releasing the main reasons for the land swap, as was also quoted in the Sunday mail.

Also, you'll find that the new development will increase the property values, rather than decrease them.

Anyway, it's a valid argument and there are those for and against it, but the council have made their decision, even though it is up for consultation again, and the TOD (Transport Orientated Development) has a big impact on the tramline, so, unfortunately for some, I can't see the decision being overturned.

I can't see how it will but that's how I see it.

All I know is Honest Jay will be very nervous up until election time.

[swannsong]

The land swap is to create a transport corridor and allow the development of a T.O.D (Transport Oriented Development). Higher density living along a transport corridor creating plazas, coffee shops etc similar to what has happened in Subiaco in WA.
Similar things will be occurring across the state, Brompton, Marion, Noarlunga, Elizabeth etc.

[guti]

Looks to be going ahead....

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

[Wraith]

Speaking with Jay Weatherill MP - it's all part of a long term plan, and I'd be surprised if it was all quashed.

Must say though, for all the complaints about people not being informed etc. we have been kept in the loop at every stage by the Council, and now also through Jay.

And Franco, I was reading in the Messenger that the new development would send the prices of property in the surrounding areas on the way up, the cause of the debate, from what I can see, is that the community will lose open land. From what Council has presented me, the land amount will stay the same.

[The Magician]

From what Council has presented me, the land amount will stay the same.

I actually thought the land amount was going to be more. I personally believe the property prices will go up for the entire area.

I think you will find property prices have shot up dramatically in areas adjacent to new estates!

[Wraith]

From what Council has presented me, the land amount will stay the same.

I actually thought the land amount was going to be more. I personally believe the property prices will go up for the entire area.

I think you will find property prices have shot up dramatically in areas adjacent to new estates!

I have the actual figures at home, and yes it could be just a slight amount more, however it's in the vicinity of the same amount at the moment.

[Wraith]

Keep an eye out for tomorrow's Advertiser

[Kosta Utd]

Gail Gago backs St Clair land swap

Article from: The Advertiser

November 19, 2009 03:00pm

LOCAL Government Minister Gail Gago has given Charles Sturt Council the all-clear to proceed with the St Clair Reserve land swap if it chooses.
Ms Gago told Parliament this afternoon that the council had satisfied the requirements of the Local Government Act in relation to the revocation of land.

It is now up to the council to decide if it will go through with the plan to turn St Clair Reserve, Woodville, into a housing development and create a new park on a nearby former factory site.

"I am mindful that it's my statutory responsibiity not to make judgement of the merits of the project but to assess whether the council has fulfilled the steps required in relation to community land revocation," Ms Gago said.

"I note that this matter is the topic of some controversy and the majority of submissions received by the council were not in favour of the proposal.

"The council will now need to consider whether to proceed with the revocation which would need to be approved by them at a future council meeting."

[To Mati]

Let's face it, the area at the moment west of Woodville road is considered to be a shit hole .

Bring in new estates, more population, potentially more $$ to the local council, therefore more $$ back into the community on improved infrastructure, schools, sporting clubs .

Arndale shopping centre may even fork out for a major face lift. There is heaps of room around Arndale. With this land swap, we may be able to push all the ferals over the other side of grand junction road!

Has anyone seen the land releases and prices? I am tipping the house values in the area is going to shoot up by at least 30% because of it!

[Steve#4]

If you get rid of the un desireables I am sure Woodville North, Gardens, Ferrydan Park Etc would go up no doubt.

Even so the community will still largely contain Vietnamese and Sudanese people, which it should in my opinion as this is where they have built their comunities.

I some how can't see the neighborhoods South of Torrens Rd being equal or on par with the North.

Not Racist just realist.

[swannsong]

Define undesirables....

[futcha]

This must go ahead, you people who are against are typical Adelaide people with blimkers on as those dick heads at Victoria Race couse that bullied the state government and speant millions of tax payers money to do research and complaints and wasted 5 years over 5 trees.

People wake up we are a laughing stock interstate because every time we need to do something we need to make sure we dont upset the minority who have no idea, no wonder we cop shit from Victorians.

Just get over it and accept change because it will enhance the area, who nows you might enjou it.

[kramerica]

If you get rid of the un desireables I am sure Woodville North, Gardens, Ferrydan Park Etc would go up no doubt.

Even so the community will still largely contain Vietnamese and Sudanese people, which it should in my opinion as this is where they have built their comunities.

I some how can't see the neighborhoods South of Torrens Rd being equal or on par with the North.

Not Racist just realist.

The guy heading the ball grew up on the North side of Torrens road, would you call him an undesirable?

I do sympathise with the few, that this will have a negative affect on (those across the road from the park) as they will have to walk a little further to the park. But give me TOD and development over, wasted Cheltenham park and factories. I think that the positives will out weigh the negatives, and the greater community will benefit. Aren't you looking for a place Franco? Might want to consider a place across the road from the new park

[Steve#4]

Is he a criminal, drug dealer, Prostitute or thug?

These are what I would call undesireables....Wouldn't you?

You are the one that has taken and tarred all from the North side of the road with the same "brush", not me.

I have just given an opinion on the situation.

[Steve#4]

There is a certain Footballnews member that is very Photogenic in the Messenger this week

I see Bob Marley has also had a haircut

[Wraith]

Thankfully Bob just had his hair tied down for the day!!!

[Steve#4]

That's ok then, I was about to recommend never going to that Barber again

[nachoman]

whilst i have nothing to do with St Clair proposal
this link attached should sound alarm bells for the public about our state labour govt

"Atkinson offered benefit, MPs told
PARLIAMENT has been told of allegations that Attorney-General Michael Atkinson offered a benefit to a Charles Sturt councillor if he joined the Labor Party. "

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

[Wraith]

Labor MPs jeered Mr Winderlich during his speech and accused him of being a "coward" for making the allegations under privilege. Labor members accused those supporting the motion of grandstanding on the basis that the Ombudsman was capable of initiating an inquiry in his own right following a complaint from the public.

I couldn't agree more.

Winderlich used the privelidge because he knew he could not back up these claims - some of them which are farcical.

[guti]

Labor MPs jeered Mr Winderlich during his speech and accused him of being a "coward" for making the allegations under privilege. Labor members accused those supporting the motion of grandstanding on the basis that the Ombudsman was capable of initiating an inquiry in his own right following a complaint from the public.

I couldn't agree more.

Winderlich used the privelidge because he knew he could not back up these claims - some of them which are farcical.

You can't disprove them any more than he can prove them.