Junior Trials 2007

the juggler · Post by **the juggler** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:56 pm

Some clubs have started the trial process for their Juniors. Some have probably finished whilst some are yet to start. Just wondered if anyone cares to offer any comment on how they think Clubs have conducted themselves so far in what is seen as a difficult time for all the kids trying out?

Football Freak · Post by **Football Freak** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:51 pm

Was at a Northern club last week and there were over 30 players there, not sure of how they are supposed to select out of that many kids. At least they had 3, i think, looking and taking notes.

My lad tried his best but doesn't fancy his chances.

Do you think i should call the coach afterwards if he is unsuccessful ?

Big Wayne · Post by **Big Wayne** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:09 pm

I think you should but only if you are prepared to hear the truth. But to be honest some coaches dont know why they like certain players over others.

redeye · Post by **redeye** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:31 pm

I just cant believe how crazy this junior trials thing has become. Parents taking their kids all over town trying to find clubs which will give their kids "better opportunities". What does this mean. Surely being given an opportunity to play at any club is opportunity enough especially at a very young age.This was overheard from some parents at a recent U11 trial session at a north eastern club. Mind you these boys were existing club players and more than likely would be selected again for next season. I just cant understand where their mentality is. Maybe the FFSA should look at imposing recruitment zones for clubs similiar to the SANFL otherwise we could have a child from Modbury going to a club at clarence gardens for instance for better opportunities. It gone mad.

BillShankly · Post by **BillShankly** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:21 pm

At my club ive had over 30 kids try out for under 14s, we are having 5 trials..we had two on sat and sunday, and the next are on wed, sat and sunday.

realising the dilemma we had, we have decided to cut some players and reduce the number to about 24...and from there we will finalise our 16 after the last day.

the reason for informing players early in the trials they werent gonna make it, is that they could try and find another club to trial at. Unfortunately having two under 14 teams is not an option due to the lack of grounds available for training.

sparts · Post by **sparts** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:24 pm

there were nearly 50 kids trying to 15s at para hills on the wk end!!! gonna have fun picking 15 from that!

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:34 pm

Don't Para have 2 teams in the 15's?

the juggler · Post by **the juggler** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:35 pm

Coaches don't always get it right either. Asking coaches why their child didn't get in won't always give you the answer you are looking for. I am the first to admit that I have picked players that I wish I hadn't but I guess we don't get a lot of time to look at kids...especially ones from other Clubs who are a bit nervous. Unfortunately trials are both happy AND sad ocassions and we will never get it right all of the time. Good luck to all wherever you play...it's the game that is the winner wherever you play.

sparts · Post by **sparts** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:38 pm

they do have two teams but once the final cut is made many of those players wont hang around to play b's.

CLUB · Post by **CLUB** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:06 pm

UNDER 15 HAD BIG NUMBERS ALL OVER THE STATE. IS THIS TURE

PARA HILL=50
CAMPBELLTOWN=45
ADELAIDE CITE=55
THIS IS 150 PLAYERS FOR 45 SPOTS

sparts · Post by **sparts** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:11 pm

cant confirm the other clubs but yes para hills had about that many!

the juggler · Post by **the juggler** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:22 pm

Para had 55...plus some returning after not getting in 17's. The 17's had about 40 too.

sparts · Post by **sparts** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:29 pm

thats true sc1...training tomoro will be interesting!

Football Freak · Post by **Football Freak** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:07 pm

So if a team / club have enough players to make a 'B' squad why don't they do it, keeps players at the club, more revenue. Can a club have 2 teams in one division ?

Hopefully we will find out if my son made it this week, dreaded phone call or letter i suppose. You are right sc1, it would be both happy and sad times for all

the juggler · Post by **the juggler** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:28 pm

Can't have two teams in same division. Generally, most Clubs like to have a few "B" teams but only as many as their facilities allow. Football Freak....if your son doesn't make it just try somewhere else. And there is nothing wrong with good quality E and D clubs either. Just so long as your lad keeps playing and enjoys it, that's the main thing.

Football Freak · Post by **Football Freak** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:47 pm

so that would mean a "b" team would be in the shadow of the "a" team then.

Not sure if i like that one but as long as he is injoying his soccer that is all that matters.

E & D has -i believe- limited opportunities for advancement but i think it is ok for wot it is.

Thanks for your advice

Football Freak · Post by **Football Freak** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:13 am

BillShankly wrote:At my club ive had over 30 kids try out for under 14s, we are having 5 trials..we had two on sat and sunday, and the next are on wed, sat and sunday.

realising the dilemma we had, we have decided to cut some players and reduce the number to about 24...and from there we will finalise our 16 after the last day.

the reason for informing players early in the trials they werent gonna make it, is that they could try and find another club to trial at. Unfortunately having two under 14 teams is not an option due to the lack of grounds available for training.

Is that at Modbury Bill ?(am i allowed to ask that :? ) they too had over 30 boys there to start with then the last trial was about the same, down to @ 24-25. If it is not that team then obviously both your club and theirs are showing consistency.

What other clubs are stilllooking for players in the northern areas, n e 1 help me (suspecting the worse)

milkyway · Post by **milkyway** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:32 am

Dates and Times for MetroStars Junior trials have been posted on the web site. http://www.metrostars.com.au

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:47 am

Hey all i can simpathise with all my son also trialed at 2 nothern clubs but is hopeing to stay with his existing club i do beleive para hills had the most out there for his age group ot sounds like they had a lot of kids right through all the ages it certainly makes it tough for knew kids to break in a team when most coaches will only be looking to replace a few players.
I suppose the advatage to para hills is they do have the B side and then maybe making the A the year after at least if you decide to hang around you will been seen by the appropriate people and maybe progress to A's.
I don't beleive Modbury have any B sides maybe they should look at it.

THE PROBLEM IS SOCCER SEEMS TO BE TAKING OFF BIG TIME LOTS MORE KIDS TO CHOOSE FROM

ALL I CAN SAY IS GOOD LUCK TO ALL YOU BUDDING SOCCER STRS

Drusetta · Post by **Drusetta** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:28 pm

Big Wayne wrote:I think you should but only if you are prepared to hear the truth. But to be honest some coaches dont know why they like certain players over others.

I certainly hope that's not the case! Coaches should know exactly why they have chosen one player over another. If they don't then their assessment methods are flawed.

I agree that the parent/player should ring the coach and ask them why they didn't make the squad. Constructive feedback is very important

Drusetta · Post by **Drusetta** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:32 pm

sc1 wrote: Coaches don't always get it right either. Asking coaches why their child didn't get in won't always give you the answer you are looking for. I am the first to admit that I have picked players that I wish I hadn't but I guess we don't get a lot of time to look at kids...especially ones from other Clubs who are a bit nervous. Unfortunately trials are both happy AND sad ocassions and we will never get it right all of the time. Good luck to all wherever you play...it's the game that is the winner wherever you play.

Totally agree. Some players trial really well then back off once selected. Other players could have been more nervous and therefore didn't perform as best as they know they can. And given the short ttrial time coaches have a hell of a job selecting a squad from 30+ players. It is difficult or near impossible) to assess each player on ALL of their football skills and attributes.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:12 pm

I'm shocked to hear about some parents problems with their kids playing in B teams

Not just on here but at trials also!
Kids develope at different ages, the most important thing is that they play and enjoy the game, if they're good enough they will get noticed, believe me!
Stay at your club and be loyal!

Drusetta · Post by **Drusetta** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:18 pm

Nova
I've heard players can become quite unhappy playing in "B" teams. The sad thing was how this mostly comes about. Parents of the "A" team players fuel the "my child is better than your child" fire and it rubs off on their children.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:32 pm

Good clubs will identify good players eventually and they will be rewarded with A team spots!
Parents need to be educated more and need to realise not all kids are gonna be stars!

Drusetta · Post by **Drusetta** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:35 pm

Yes - as I discover every year I coach. Good luck with the bringing parents into reality gig. Let me know how you go!

Karicako · Post by **Karicako** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:58 pm

I think if a club already has an 'A' team and no 'B' team; then if they were to field a second team, they have to start of in 'C' League.

And if you think parents are unhappy about their children playing in 'B's, then to suggest their child could get a spot in a new 'C' team may be playing with fire!!

soccer mum · Post by **soccer mum** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:12 pm

I suppose the problem with the B and C team thing is that people might not agree with paying the federation or clubs the same fees as a A side, to play in a C division. i don't know, i think if my son wasn't good enough to play A or at least in a B side i would try and convince him to go back to a elizabeth and districs there are still some good junior sides there and at a third of the cost at least he would still be playing the game he loves

Vagrant · Post by **Vagrant** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:38 pm

As long as he is playing somewhere and has a reasonable coach

povman_2009 · Post by **povman_2009** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:58 pm

PHE Under 15's 2007, looking for players who are fed up with fed, PM me, cheap fees, loads of fun and a no stars policy.....

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:28 pm

go to playford if u wanna a team to play for in the north

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