Vince Grella - Chamion or Overrated??

Redstar75 · Post by **Redstar75** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:21 pm

Based on his performances to date at the Asian Cup, should Vince Grella be dropped for the Japan game?

kewell10 · Post by **kewell10** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:46 am

no because he will actually be needed against japan

Redstar75 · Post by **Redstar75** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:44 am

if he plays like he has been playing in the group stage, he'd be better off on the bench in my opinion.

But thats just my opinion. Hope for AUstralia's sake he pulls a blinder.

Googes · Post by **Googes** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:04 pm

He is struggling to get back to full fitness and miss alot of games late in the year with injury.

MilanManiac · Post by **MilanManiac** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:12 pm

Grella isnt... smart. hes not the brightest of players but he is a very strong one and puts in decent challenges overall on average. He should be kept.

diegom · Post by **diegom** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:12 pm

What does chamion MEAN???

Grella was struggling but AUSTRALIA NEED him in the def mid role on sat night.

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:32 pm

he's been a waste of space, but don't think anyone else is capable of getting the job done.

BADA BING · Post by **BADA BING** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:12 pm

Who hasnt been a waste of space this tournament, bit harsh just singling out Grella

The Kop · Post by **The Kop** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:00 pm

overrated.
looked good with Hiddink cos the SYSTEM worked well around him.
His touch on the ball isnt good enough. Works hard and commits to alot of tackles but as someone pointed out earlier, isnt the most intelligent of players.

But unforunately there are no Aussie players in a defensive mid mould, so he'll be there for years to come.

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:35 pm

BADA BING wrote:Who hasnt been a waste of space this tournament, bit harsh just singling out Grella

agree, the topic should be who isn't a waste of space

culina
beauchamp
milligan
carney
schwarzer (though as looked shakey of late)
cahill
emerton apparently

rest can fark of from whence they came

MilanManiac · Post by **MilanManiac** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:01 pm

The Kop wrote:overrated.
looked good with Hiddink cos the SYSTEM worked well around him.
His touch on the ball isnt good enough. Works hard and commits to alot of tackles but as someone pointed out earlier, isnt the most intelligent of players.

But unforunately there are no Aussie players in a defensive mid mould, so he'll be there for years to come.

that someone was me you fkin cnt, quote me or die lol

Post by **admin** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:05 pm

Culina can play Grella's role and then Cahill could slot into the staring line up at the expense of Grella.

Need championship manager to play a few different scenarios with the different lineups:)

aussie_ascoli · Post by **aussie_ascoli** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:24 pm

admin wrote:Culina can play Grella's role and then Cahill could slot into the staring line up at the expense of Grella.

Need championship manager to play a few different scenarios with the different lineups:)

Culina is not much of the classical type, anyhows Australia play Grella as a Regista as well. This makes it hard doing two jobs at once. Usually you would have a classical and the creative player in the middle, but that job goes to Grella, and Culina to play the supporting role.
If we play Culina on his own like that, Australia would get arse raped.

Reggina10Cozza · Post by **Reggina10Cozza** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:55 pm

what the hell is wrong with you people.... grella is an absolute champion.... it is a known fact that he struggles in the heat... I know for a fact in the youth world cup in Nigeria he really struggled with the heat and was quite ill..... he still battles on.... he is not stupid or overated just more sensitive to the affects of the extreme and foreign conditions.... it doesnt take much for everyone to start bagging our own does it. you all make me sick

On Holiday · Post by **On Holiday** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:56 am

Would have to agree that Grella is not the most graceful player on the park, however every quality team needs a player like him to put in the hard yards. He was an integral part of Australia's success in the world cup and some people seem to have short memories.

Redstar75 · Post by **Redstar75** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:05 pm

Reggina10Cozza wrote:what the hell is wrong with you people.... grella is an absolute champion.... it is a known fact that he struggles in the heat... I know for a fact in the youth world cup in Nigeria he really struggled with the heat and was quite ill..... he still battles on.... he is not stupid or overated just more sensitive to the affects of the extreme and foreign conditions.... it doesnt take much for everyone to start bagging our own does it. you all make me sick

Well Reggina if it was a known fact he cant play in 35 deg heat and 70+ percent humidity, he shouldnt be playing. Plain and simple.

Why would you knowingly play a player in that instance?

Yes during the world cup he was great. But this isnt the World Cup, its Asia, a whole different ball game, and boy didnt we find that out the hard way.

getborn · Post by **getborn** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:09 pm

On Holiday wrote:Would have to agree that Grella is not the most graceful player on the park, however every quality team needs a player like him to put in the hard yards. He was an integral part of Australia's success in the world cup and some people seem to have short memories.

AUSTRALIA SUCCESS IN THE WORLD CUP CONSISTED OF ONE WIN IN A MATCH WHERE WE WERE BEHIND FOR 85 MINUTES.

Australia is overated not Grella.

Redstar75 · Post by **Redstar75** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:56 pm

getborn wrote:
On Holiday wrote:Would have to agree that Grella is not the most graceful player on the park, however every quality team needs a player like him to put in the hard yards. He was an integral part of Australia's success in the world cup and some people seem to have short memories.
AUSTRALIA SUCCESS IN THE WORLD CUP CONSISTED OF ONE WIN IN A MATCH WHERE WE WERE BEHIND FOR 85 MINUTES.

Australia is overated not Grella.

The world cup was a success, depending on your definition.

SHiddinks goal was to get Australia past a very tough group - he did. Success.

Arnolds goal was to win the Asian Cup - anything less would be a failure - knocked out after group stage, failed.

I agree, that Aus has now eaten a decent serving of humble pie and deservedley too. However these are the same players that were minutes away from dealing Italy the most humiliating defeat in their history. True it never happened but gee if it went to extra time id have put my house on Aus winning.

So that being said each player themselves would have been blowing wind up their own arses, thinking if we can almost beat the WOrld champs, we'll win this thing in a canter. The word is UNDERESTIMATED not OVERRATED.

Big difference.

getborn · Post by **getborn** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:25 am

Redstar75 wrote:
getborn wrote:
On Holiday wrote:Would have to agree that Grella is not the most graceful player on the park, however every quality team needs a player like him to put in the hard yards. He was an integral part of Australia's success in the world cup and some people seem to have short memories.
AUSTRALIA SUCCESS IN THE WORLD CUP CONSISTED OF ONE WIN IN A MATCH WHERE WE WERE BEHIND FOR 85 MINUTES.

Australia is overated not Grella.
The world cup was a success, depending on your definition.

SHiddinks goal was to get Australia past a very tough group - he did. Success.

Arnolds goal was to win the Asian Cup - anything less would be a failure - knocked out after group stage, failed.

I agree, that Aus has now eaten a decent serving of humble pie and deservedley too. However these are the same players that were minutes away from dealing Italy the most humiliating defeat in their history. True it never happened but gee if it went to extra time id have put my house on Aus winning.

So that being said each player themselves would have been blowing wind up their own arses, thinking if we can almost beat the WOrld champs, we'll win this thing in a canter. The word is UNDERESTIMATED not OVERRATED.

Big difference.

You would have lost your house.

australia were never going to score against italy, not even against ten men.

i still believe australia is OVERATED.

nor are they as good they think they are.

as for the managment.

a coach is as important as his players.

we went form hiddink & neeskens to arnold and kosmina. you do the maths.

Redstar75 · Post by **Redstar75** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:54 am

getborn wrote:
Redstar75 wrote:
getborn wrote:
On Holiday wrote:Would have to agree that Grella is not the most graceful player on the park, however every quality team needs a player like him to put in the hard yards. He was an integral part of Australia's success in the world cup and some people seem to have short memories.
AUSTRALIA SUCCESS IN THE WORLD CUP CONSISTED OF ONE WIN IN A MATCH WHERE WE WERE BEHIND FOR 85 MINUTES.

Australia is overated not Grella.
The world cup was a success, depending on your definition.

SHiddinks goal was to get Australia past a very tough group - he did. Success.

Arnolds goal was to win the Asian Cup - anything less would be a failure - knocked out after group stage, failed.

I agree, that Aus has now eaten a decent serving of humble pie and deservedley too. However these are the same players that were minutes away from dealing Italy the most humiliating defeat in their history. True it never happened but gee if it went to extra time id have put my house on Aus winning.

So that being said each player themselves would have been blowing wind up their own arses, thinking if we can almost beat the WOrld champs, we'll win this thing in a canter. The word is UNDERESTIMATED not OVERRATED.

Big difference.
You would have lost your house.

australia were never going to score against italy, not even against ten men

i still believe australia is OVERATED.

nor are they as good they think they are.

as for the managment.

a coach is as important as his players.

we went form hiddink & neeskens to arnold and kosmina. you do the maths.

Well then Lowry and co. need to go back to the drawing board. I have a suspicion that big changes are in order and this "we need an Australian coach" mentality will soon be a thing of the past.

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