These freak seasons happen all the time. They were able to sell a dud striker and replace him with 2 guns. Do you honestly think you're going to able to attract another Luis Suarez type player now? Like I said, you might unearth a gem here and there but thats about it.
I was advised to unblock you as you apaprentky talk sense at times...
I have no idea TBH who we can attarct, I think Kenny will go upstairs this week and a new manager will come. Money talks and we have more than most still, so we will attract names.
Playing for us is still a big draw, even though we are not ion the CL. Not sure who long we can stay out of it though before players won't want to come.
City (for example) can only have so many players, so some may not go there as they know it will be short term before another superstar arrives.
Haywood, just for those who are not so good at maths, enlighten us as to the percentage of Arsenal's league goals that were scored by one player, RVP. I'll give you a clue, it's 30 divided by 74, multiplied by 100. And that doesn't take account of assists which I CBF looking up.
Without him, or if he gets injured, you're nowhere.
C'mon Cyril, stop trying to convert to ones intelligence as you have no other leg to stand on! & im confident in maths so jog on you silly spud!!
As i said your statement has no weight, you base is soley on RVP & him only.. as pointed out we - Arsenal FC have survived every year when a so called player 'we rely so heavily on' has departed Highbury or the Emirates.. Your statement above is based upon last season RVP stats.. My response to your original statement was based over a 6 - 10 year period..
SAASL SUNDAY PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPION 2010 2011 SAASL CHALLENGE CUP WINNER 2008 2010 2011 SAASL CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS WINNER 2010 SAASL CICHANOWSKI SHIELD WINNER 2009 2011 2012
1. Man City - too strong
2. Arsenal - as long as they keep RvP, they will have an awesome season without ever threatening Man City
3. Man United - Have a good young squad that will keep them near the top, but next season will be a bit of a learning curve
4. Chelsea - FPP rules or not, they will spend big in the summer, espeically if they win the UCL
Tottenham will get raided, and even if they manage to keep some players, they won't be happy there. Something about Tottenham reeks failure.
Newcastle/Everton whoever else may sneak into Europa League spots, but nothing more.
Liverpool are so far off, not even a new coach like Mourinho will get them close to UCL. They are becoming more and more a run of the mill mid-table club, which is sad. Luis Suarez is over-rated (even Jimbob thinks he is a class above) selfish and inconsistent. They lack quality right throughout their midfield, which is made worse by the fact they have no depth. Finally, their best defender is injury-prone. How far this sqaud has fallen since finishing second in 2007-08 (played the best football that season) is quite ridiculous. They need to spend like Man City to get themselves out of the rut they are in, because "tweaks here and there" to the squad will simply get them no where.
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Arsenal's season depends heavily on how their new signings go.
If Podolski is a hit, things could look a lot brighter.
Must be season end... We hear this ever summer but yet finish above most year after year
Is what I said wrong?
If RvP leaves, where are your goals coming from? Chamakh?
How Podolski settles is going to be a big factor in how Arsenal's season goes.
As I've said above we have survived before with our so called big names leaving so same same somebody else will step in & play the Arsenal way could be podolski could be a new signing. Wenger has unearthed gems before & will continue to.
RVP will sign next couple of days before he joins up with the Dutch team
SAASL SUNDAY PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPION 2010 2011 SAASL CHALLENGE CUP WINNER 2008 2010 2011 SAASL CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS WINNER 2010 SAASL CICHANOWSKI SHIELD WINNER 2009 2011 2012
LFTWNG11 wrote:
Liverpool are so far off, not even a new coach like Mourinho will get them close to UCL. They are becoming more and more a run of the mill mid-table club, which is sad. Luis Suarez is over-rated (even Jimbob thinks he is a class above) selfish and inconsistent. They lack quality right throughout their midfield, which is made worse by the fact they have no depth. Finally, their best defender is injury-prone. How far this sqaud has fallen since finishing second in 2007-08 (played the best football that season) is quite ridiculous. They need to spend like Man City to get themselves out of the rut they are in, because "tweaks here and there" to the squad will simply get them no where.
Spurs are a failure ? you are kidding me !
4th in league above Chelsea & Liverpool ( who spent quite a bit I think ), semis of FA Cup, beat Milan & Inter in CL not so long ago too, so that competition won't bother them in 2012/13. Fear is Chelski winning UCL & Spurs getting raped by Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea.
For what it's worth the top 4 IMO :
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea
battle for 4th between spurs, Arsewipes and a rank outsider like swansea or Norwich.I think the Toon will struggle to match the big boys without more signings.
Everton need some more quality, Liverpool are a joke to the club that once dominated Europe & the rest will be happy to stay up again in mid-table mediocrity.
These freak seasons happen all the time. They were able to sell a dud striker and replace him with 2 guns. Do you honestly think you're going to able to attract another Luis Suarez type player now? Like I said, you might unearth a gem here and there but thats about it.
I was advised to unblock you as you apaprentky talk sense at times...
I have no idea TBH who we can attarct, I think Kenny will go upstairs this week and a new manager will come. Money talks and we have more than most still, so we will attract names.
Playing for us is still a big draw, even though we are not ion the CL. Not sure who long we can stay out of it though before players won't want to come.
City (for example) can only have so many players, so some may not go there as they know it will be short term before another superstar arrives.
Thank you for unblocking me, I will try my best not to upset you.
It will be an interesting close season. Will Liverpool's owners want to risk spending a lot of money again for no return? I actually don't think you need a massive overhaul to make you competitive for the CL spots but not many people (apart from Liverpool fans) agree with me on that.
In terms of City only being able to have so many players, thats true but surely the top players that don't end up going there are going to go to clubs like United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs? At this moment in time I don't think Anfield is as appealing as these other places.
It will also be interesting to see when City actually start to curb their spending for FFP. People can talk all they want about clubs being able to get round it with smart accountants but there's no way they can just carry on as they have been. They might even ship some dead wood this off season.
Cabbage Leaf wrote:Spurs are a failure ? you are kidding me !
4th in league above Chelsea & Liverpool ( who spent quite a bit I think ), semis of FA Cup, beat Milan & Inter in CL not so long ago too, so that competition won't bother them in 2012/13. Fear is Chelski winning UCL & Spurs getting raped by Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea.
Ummm so Spud fans gloat about beating a top team in the UCL a couple years back?! Like I said, Tottenham reek failure.
El Capitano wrote:Careful, they don't like the truth around here.
Obviously a lot of people troll Liverpool because it is easy to do... but they genuinely do have major floors in their squad that cannot be papered over. They have a good defensive unit but that's about it. The more I hear about how good Suarez, the more annoying it becomes, I have watched almost every Liverpool game this season, and if people can't see he plays for himself, then they obviously watch with their blinkers on.
Cabbage Leaf wrote:Spurs are a failure ? you are kidding me !
4th in league above Chelsea & Liverpool ( who spent quite a bit I think ), semis of FA Cup, beat Milan & Inter in CL not so long ago too, so that competition won't bother them in 2012/13. Fear is Chelski winning UCL & Spurs getting raped by Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea.
Ummm so Spud fans gloat about beating a top team in the UCL a couple years back?! Like I said, Tottenham reek failure.
El Capitano wrote:Careful, they don't like the truth around here.
Obviously a lot of people troll Liverpool because it is easy to do... but they genuinely do have major floors in their squad that cannot be papered over. They have a good defensive unit but that's about it. The more I hear about how good Suarez, the more annoying it becomes, I have watched almost every Liverpool game this season, and if people can't see he plays for himself, then they obviously watch with their blinkers on.
The only "major floors" we have are those holding all the trophy cabinets.
Cabbage Leaf wrote:Spurs are a failure ? you are kidding me !
4th in league above Chelsea & Liverpool ( who spent quite a bit I think ), semis of FA Cup, beat Milan & Inter in CL not so long ago too, so that competition won't bother them in 2012/13. Fear is Chelski winning UCL & Spurs getting raped by Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea.
Ummm so Spud fans gloat about beating a top team in the UCL a couple years back?! Like I said, Tottenham reek failure.
El Capitano wrote:Careful, they don't like the truth around here.
Obviously a lot of people troll Liverpool because it is easy to do... but they genuinely do have major floors in their squad that cannot be papered over. They have a good defensive unit but that's about it. The more I hear about how good Suarez, the more annoying it becomes, I have watched almost every Liverpool game this season, and if people can't see he plays for himself, then they obviously watch with their blinkers on.
How did Gerrard get his third against Everton again?
Suarez is a very skillful player. Generally, these types of players are going to hold onto the ball more than most. It doesn't mean he's playing for himself, it means he's trying to make something happen for the team. You only have to look at his reactions when someone else scores to see that he's in it for the team, not himself.
haywood djablowme wrote:
I believe Arsenal have improved more than the Poo! (we are only 5 pts behind you)
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
How did Gerrard get his third against Everton again?
Suarez is a very skillful player. Generally, these types of players are going to hold onto the ball more than most. It doesn't mean he's playing for himself, it means he's trying to make something happen for the team. You only have to look at his reactions when someone else scores to see that he's in it for the team, not himself.
So one assist and celebrating goals makes him a team player?!
Hardly. Suarez should shoulder some of the blame as to why it has taken Andy Carroll to find some form... Earlier in the season whenever they played together, he almost purposfully held the ball up too long and didn't combine with deeper players to give Andy room.
Downing has been utter garbage this season, but Suarez basically takes away all his strengths by continually drifting wide left and trying to cut in... It renders the left winger useless (espeically a one dimensional winger such as Downing).
Is he a skillful player? Most definitely but he lacks vision and tactical awareness. Basically the things that seperate skillful players from world class players. Would Suarez perform better in a team who knew how to attack with verve, I think so, but the way people talk about him as the only good player at Liverpool is ridiculous. Liverpool would of been better served sticking him on the right wing, stick Downing on the left and swinging crosses into Carroll all day long.
This topic should be saved for until the summer transfer window is closed and the squads for all teams are finalised, because until then we will have no idea how much teams will strengthen or weaken.
for now we can just assume that it'll be the usual customers in the top 3- Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal (saying this because Podolski signing automatically makes us stronger than this season)
then for 4th- Chelski cause we know they will buy their way out of trouble.
if spuds and Newcastle can hold onto their key players they'll challenge for 4th again
Liverpool and Everton- if they want to rise from 7th and 8th they need to strengthen a lot.
Of course this topic is all ifs and buts due to summer just starting
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
So because he doesn't have many assists, he doesn't have good vision?
Awesome logic.
He didn't score many goals, so you would expect a player with "vision" to have set up quite a few (considering how much he holds the ball). He set up a goal one in every 11 games. Going past the stats, if you could please direct me to a game where he bought other players into the game instead of clogging up the left and trying to cut past 3 players, then enlighten me.
Carlos Tevez has as many assists from a third of his games. He is a player who is technically similiar (and just as goal hungry) but has far greater vision.
Your one line retorts are unusually weak. Please come up with something substantial, otherwise I am out of this thread.
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
So because he doesn't have many assists, he doesn't have good vision?
Awesome logic.
He didn't score many goals, so you would expect a player with "vision" to have set up quite a few (considering how much he holds the ball). He set up a goal one in every 11 games. Going past the stats, if you could please direct me to a game where he bought other players into the game instead of clogging up the left and trying to cut past 3 players, then enlighten me.
Carlos Tevez has as many assists from a third of his games. He is a player who is technically similiar (and just as goal hungry) but has far greater vision.
Your one line retorts are unusually weak. Please come up with something substantial, otherwise I am out of this thread.
Is it Suarez's fault other players can't finish? It's the story of our season. Chance after chance without finding the net.
Downing would have had a fair few assists had some of the quality supply he put into the box been buried. No, I'm not trolling there. He may have had a shite season, but it's predominantly due to his lack of confidence in running at defenders and taking them on. Some of the supply he's put into the box has been quality but not capitalised on. It's similar for Suarez in this respect, he creates a lot of goal scoring opportunities (maybe not directly, but his vision will lead to others getting chances) but we don't put them away.
haywood djablowme wrote:
I believe Arsenal have improved more than the Poo! (we are only 5 pts behind you)
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
So because he doesn't have many assists, he doesn't have good vision?
Awesome logic.
He didn't score many goals, so you would expect a player with "vision" to have set up quite a few (considering how much he holds the ball). He set up a goal one in every 11 games. Going past the stats, if you could please direct me to a game where he bought other players into the game instead of clogging up the left and trying to cut past 3 players, then enlighten me.
Carlos Tevez has as many assists from a third of his games. He is a player who is technically similiar (and just as goal hungry) but has far greater vision.
Your one line retorts are unusually weak. Please come up with something substantial, otherwise I am out of this thread.
Suarez drifted more to the right than the left this season.
The Kop wrote:
Suarez drifted more to the right than the left this season.
No he didn't.
BowTiesAreCool wrote:Is it Suarez's fault other players can't finish? It's the story of our season. Chance after chance without finding the net.
Downing would have had a fair few assists had some of the quality supply he put into the box been buried. No, I'm not trolling there. He may have had a shite season, but it's predominantly due to his lack of confidence in running at defenders and taking them on. Some of the supply he's put into the box has been quality but not capitalised on. It's similar for Suarez in this respect, he creates a lot of goal scoring opportunities (maybe not directly, but his vision will lead to others getting chances) but we don't put them away.
Suarez was guilty more than anyone of missing guilt edge chances! If his finishing was up to scratch, you can forgive his lack of creativity (in terms of bringing his team mates into the game; dribbling players he is technically outstanding), but it hasn't been so the criticism is warranted.
Downing's crossing was terrible. Now I know you are just trolling or something. His corners were an upgrade on Charlie Adam's, but only just. He reminds of a left sided Jermaine Pennant, only 3 times more expensive.
The Kop wrote:
Suarez drifted more to the right than the left this season.
No he didn't.
Not trolling you.
Suarez drifted more to the right than the left this season, it’s not a matter of opinion it’s a matter of fact.
He had famous battles with just about every left back in the league. Most of the goals he scored were the result of cutting in from the right.
We hear this ever summer but yet finish above most year after year
