Cup Results

[Rodent]

So teams remaining in the cup would be...

A's
Beograd (Sun Div2)
Parafield Gardens (Sun Div 1)
Pontians (Sun Div 1)
Eliz Vale (Sun Div 1)

B's
Brahma Lodge (Sun Div 2)
Elizabeth Downs (Sun Div 1)
Parafield Gardens (Sun Div 1)
Wanderers (Sun Div 1) 2nd to bottome of div1 Sat

Congrats to all, a semi at Hindmarsh beckons. Congrats to Gardens too, only club with a team in A's & B's.

Lets see if the SAASL are creative in the Semi selections...??
A's
Parafield v Beograd
Pontian v Vale

B's
Parafield v Wanderers
Downs v Brahma

big crowd guaranteed if the final is...
Gardens V Pontian/Vale
Gardens v Downs/ Brahma

& yes I am assuming Gardens will win both A's & B's but after the weekends game's who wouldnt

[KING NUGGETT]

Two of the best Cup games you'll ever see yesterday,

Congratulations to the FARM & BOSA both Fantastic oppersition & unlucky to meet a determin Gardens in the Quarters they would've been magic Finals...

To our Boy you showed GARDENS GRIT & GUTS & all the faithfull are very proud of you ...

GARDENS FOR EVER FOR EVER GARDENS....

[haywood djablowme]

So teams remaining in the cup would be...

A's
Beograd (Sun Div2)
Parafield Gardens (Sun Div 1)
Pontians (Sun Div 1)
Eliz Vale (Sun Div 1)

B's
Brahma Lodge (Sun Div 2)
Elizabeth Downs (Sun Div 1)
Parafield Gardens (Sun Div 1)
Wanderers (Sun Div 1)

Congrats to all, a semi at Hindmarsh beckons. Congrats to Gardens too, only club with a team in A's & B's.

Perfect opportunity to fire up the age old Sat v Sunday debate

So proof is in the pudding AGAIN with Sunday teams making up the majority of the Cup Semis, so question
is the Saturday league getting weaker or Sunday getting stronger..

The Sunday league, more so the Premier league, is getting stronger by the year. With the quality of players being lured/attracted to the league makes it tougher to complete in each year, in hand we havent really seen the quality of players heading to the Saturday league

[Bodes]

Two of the best Cup games you'll ever see yesterday,

Congratulations to the FARM & BOSA both Fantastic oppersition & unlucky to meet a determin Gardens in the Quarters they would've been magic Finals...

To our Boy you showed GARDENS GRIT & GUTS & all the faithfull are very proud of you ...

GARDENS FOR EVER FOR EVER GARDENS....

I have to agree with you KN. Obviously I would have preferred to see BOSA win but as a spectator you couldn't have asked for more. If it's possible in the amatuer league you could say that it will be a classic match to remember. Good luck on the league & cup doubles.

[Tigerboy]

Perfect opportunity to fire up the old Sat v Sunday debate

So proof is in the pudding AGAIN with Sunday teams making up the majority of the Cup Semis, so question, is the Saturday league getting weaker or Sunday getting stronger.. [/quote]


For many years, there were plenty of quality FFSA players who played Saturday and then Sunday too. This made Sunday football a high standard. Many players have to work Saturday's, so again, Sunday is their only option to play the great game.

Sunday football has plenty of divisions too, which makes the top 2/3 divisions the best of the lot. I think Sunday football will always be stronger unless FFSA open up a few more divisions for the better clubs to play in. (better Competition)

Not sure how the Saturday Amateur Leagues can get any better??????

[lefty]

Great day for the Gardens yesterday off to Hindmarsh we go.
B's 2-1 Goals Kaftan, Pond
A's 3-2 AET (2-2 FT) Goals Foster, Donovan, Brooks

Firstly with the reserves up against a very strong Farm side snatching the win with 2 minutes to go from a Paul Pond goal that was apparently very well taken.

In the A's 0-0 half time Foster scoring another nicely taken goal early & Brooks missing a penalty then Bosa scoring 2 quick goals late in game first one from a penalty & second almost on full time. Bosa supporters were celebrating what they thought was a win Menillo letting our supporters know then Gardens winning a corner in injury time & Donovan putting away a headed goal. Brooks scoring the winner in extra time.

Well done lads great team effort. GO U GARDENS.

[gee_kay]

Beograd with a suprising cup run

[bigpond]

Beograd with a suprising cup run

It is the 3rd year in a row they have made the cup quarters so not surprising to them.

From what I saw yday if they draw Vale they will be half a chance but Pontians or Gardens will be way too strong for them IMO.

[gee_kay]

Rubbish to say that. A Vale side at pretty much if not full strength like yesterday will match it with anyone.

[Pi55 Take]

Perfect opportunity to fire up the age old Sat v Sunday debate

So proof is in the pudding AGAIN with Sunday teams making up the majority of the Cup Semis, so question
is the Saturday league getting weaker or Sunday getting stronger..

The Sunday league, more so the Premier league, is getting stronger by the year. With the quality of players being lured/attracted to the league makes it tougher to complete in each year, in hand we havent really seen the quality of players heading to the Saturday league

I think it's clearly that the Sunday league is getting stronger. It's no secret that these quality players are getting some reasonable compensation to play, I doubt many of Saturday league players are being compensated and it certainly wouldn't be on the same sort of scale. Unless these ex fed players have good mates at or some sort of tie to a Saturday club their going to go play at a Sunday club.

That's not going to change anytime soon. A lot of the Saturday sides are school/university based clubs which don't have junior set ups, supporter bases or facilities to enable them to generate enough income to offer players any decent compensation even if they wanted to.

[Vale_boy05]

Rubbish to say that. A Vale side at pretty much if not full strength like yesterday will match it with anyone.

And we have showed that by beating Pontian and Parafield this year.
What ever the draw will be a great day out.

[Lucas Leiva]

Perfect opportunity to fire up the age old Sat v Sunday debate

So proof is in the pudding AGAIN with Sunday teams making up the majority of the Cup Semis, so question
is the Saturday league getting weaker or Sunday getting stronger..

The Sunday league, more so the Premier league, is getting stronger by the year. With the quality of players being lured/attracted to the league makes it tougher to complete in each year, in hand we havent really seen the quality of players heading to the Saturday league

I think it's clearly that the Sunday league is getting stronger. It's no secret that these quality players are getting some reasonable compensation to play, I doubt many of Saturday league players are being compensated and it certainly wouldn't be on the same sort of scale. Unless these ex fed players have good mates at or some sort of tie to a Saturday club their going to go play at a Sunday club.

That's not going to change anytime soon. A lot of the Saturday sides are school/university based clubs which don't have junior set ups, supporter bases or facilities to enable them to generate enough income to offer players any decent compensation even if they wanted to.

BOSA seemed to push Gardens, top of the div, a fair distance on the weekend.

Yes, the majority of Saturday clubs would struggle to match it with teams in their respective counterpart division on Sunday, but there has been an improvement over the last 5 years, and you’d expect that to continue. The Cup isn’t the be-all-and-end-all way to compare, but realistically beyond CoC it’s the only way.

You also have to remember Saturday teams now compete for players with not only Federation, but also a restructured Collegiate league. At the end of last season, we lost 5 players to Federation, but only 1 to a Sunday team.

Also, I've spoken to two mates leaving Feds at the end of this season for Amateurs next year, but instead of coming out to us, they're going to choose a Sunday team, given they've already been offered money to play Prems (I believe its Prems). I don't know which clubs offered them cash, but it's an incentive we can't compete with (right now) as you've stated above.

Saturday is still in its infancy if you compare it to the rich history Sunday has – over time there will be parity, but for now who really cares

[Mato]

Perfect opportunity to fire up the old Sat v Sunday debate

So proof is in the pudding AGAIN with Sunday teams making up the majority of the Cup Semis, so question, is the Saturday league getting weaker or Sunday getting stronger..

For many years, there were plenty of quality FFSA players who played Saturday and then Sunday too. This made Sunday football a high standard. Many players have to work Saturday's, so again, Sunday is their only option to play the great game.

Sunday football has plenty of divisions too, which makes the top 2/3 divisions the best of the lot. I think Sunday football will always be stronger unless FFSA open up a few more divisions for the better clubs to play in. (better Competition)

Not sure how the Saturday Amateur Leagues can get any better?????? [/quote]

probably by paying the same amount the "amatuers" do on sunday

[The General]

It was only several years ago that Saturday div 1 use to be compared to Sunday div 3, I think they have come a long way.

Looking at the A's Cup competition, most of the top Div 1 Saturday sides ( Ad Villa, Sturt Marion, Iggies, BOSA ), were only just beaten by Sunday div 1 sides playing them on a Sunday, I think there is a slight advantage there. Also had two of the top div 1 Sat sides play each other early on ( St Peters vs Stirling ). St Peters had had the home game last Saturday,just beaten on the day ( I am told ).


Both divisions have quality sides and players as was evident yesterday,well done to both BOSA and Parafield for providing a good contest.

[bigpond]

Rubbish to say that. A Vale side at pretty much if not full strength like yesterday will match it with anyone.

Why rubbish - are you saying that you are guaranteed to win if u draw them??

Read what I wrote - I said they are half a chance if they draw the Vale - I didn't say they would win but I see them having more chance against Vale then Pontians or Gardens.

[Jay Walking]

Surely Gardens favourites in the As and Downs in the Bs (given they got knocked out first round in the As).

Have to say gardens favourite in b team as well as they knocked out a farm team with 4 or 5 first team players as Farm were knocked out in Rd 1 as well.

They seem unstoppable in A and B teams ATM.

We had 2 first teamers, Lachlan and Toby.

Well done to Gardens. Its was a good old fashioned slog. We hit the post, had it run along the line and bounce out with 5 to go. With 2 to go, Pond brought down a ball from the flanked and put it top corner.

Gardens the best ressies team this year and if they do it, they will greatly deserve their double. Well done.

[ontheblackburner]

Well done to the Vale.

An even 10-15 minutes at the start but then Vale dominated the remaining minutes of the first half and deservedly went 2-0 up.

Second half was probably ours but we couldn't hit the net and conceded a third in the last minute as we pushed forward looking for goals.

Thanks to all the Vale supporters (and others from other clubs) for their support of the bar and food - ran out of almost everything.

Looking forward to seeing you all again this weekend.

[OldRedback]

Elizabeth Downs vs Stirling in the ressies cup today. Downs supporter commented that the Stirling boys looked fit. Comment from his mate; "That's because they train at altitude". Brilliant.
Enjoyable competitive game played in a good spirit. Stirling boys got a little uptight about a few feisty challenges late on but are quite capable of looking after themselves.
Downs edged the chances created and the Stirling keeper pulled of a few great saves keeping his team in with a good chance of pulling one back right to the final whistle.

Yep heard that one too - comedy gold!

The Stirling keeper was best on ground on the day and kept Stirling in it 'til the end and gave the Downs a tricky last five minutes because they had not put their chances away. That being said they did create a lot of chances which is encouraging for them. Certainly Downs have their tails up in the ressies and there won't be too many teams confident of beating them.

[gee_kay]

Rubbish to say that. A Vale side at pretty much if not full strength like yesterday will match it with anyone.

Why rubbish - are you saying that you are guaranteed to win if u draw them??

Read what I wrote - I said they are half a chance if they draw the Vale - I didn't say they would win but I see them having more chance against Vale then Pontians or Gardens.

No one is guarenteed of anything but they're half a chance against all 3 of us. They've shown they r a decent enough side to get this far.

[mvsc]

So teams remaining in the cup would be...

A's
Beograd (Sun Div2)
Parafield Gardens (Sun Div 1)
Pontians (Sun Div 1)
Eliz Vale (Sun Div 1)

B's
Brahma Lodge (Sun Div 2)
Elizabeth Downs (Sun Div 1)
Parafield Gardens (Sun Div 1)
Wanderers (Sun Div 1)

Congrats to all, a semi at Hindmarsh beckons. Congrats to Gardens too, only club with a team in A's & B's.

Perfect opportunity to fire up the age old Sat v Sunday debate

So proof is in the pudding AGAIN with Sunday teams making up the majority of the Cup Semis, so question
is the Saturday league getting weaker or Sunday getting stronger..

The Sunday league, more so the Premier league, is getting stronger by the year. With the quality of players being lured/attracted to the league makes it tougher to complete in each year, in hand we havent really seen the quality of players heading to the Saturday league

Not really (but I do agree with you that Sunday >>>> Saturday).

A better assessment would be to work out who knocked out who. Who knocked out the Saturday Div 1 teams? Did they knock each other out? Who knocked out the Sunday Div 1 teams? Did they knock each other out?

I suspect that the majority of Saturday Div 1 teams were knocked out by Sunday sides (thus, validating your argument), but you can't simply point to the semi-finals as a definitive source.

The only two Saturday Div 1 teams I know that have been knocked out (BOSA, St Peters) were both knocked out by Sunday Div 1 sides, so there's a start.

[KS2011]

Rubbish to say that. A Vale side at pretty much if not full strength like yesterday will match it with anyone.

Why rubbish - are you saying that you are guaranteed to win if u draw them??

Read what I wrote - I said they are half a chance if they draw the Vale - I didn't say they would win but I see them having more chance against Vale then Pontians or Gardens.

No one is guarenteed of anything but they're half a chance against all 3 of us. They've shown they r a decent enough side to get this far.

To be honest i havent watched any of the div 1 sides yet and i havent been in SA very long so i cannot comment adequately, but i believe we (beograd) have a good chance at the final, we have some very good players, we have struggled in div 2 especially at the start with not enough players, no traning etc with the team we have now i dont think we deserve to be second from the bottom and can easily contest with any div 2 team provided everyone turns up.. Personally id prefer we get the best team in the semi's at the end of the day you have to beat the best to win anyway.. Then agaib we mite pull a birmingham facing relegation and winning the cup... Also to mention not one of our players gets paid

[gee_kay]

and good luck to you guys. Not at any stage was i saying you were an easy draw because4 as i know with a lot of Yugoslavian teams if you guys turn up switched on ready to play you can beat almoist anyone. All i was saying is that Bigpond underestimates us and says we are the only team Beograd have a chance again where as Valeboy said we have beaten both Gardens and Pontians when we've been at full strength

[mvsc]

so I got bored at lunch and did a little bit of mathematics

i only used the games where div 1 teams got knocked out

end result is the 20 'Division 1' sides, 17 are out of the Cup - only 2 of them were knocked out by Saturday teams (West Beach and Stirling).

interestingly 6 saturday div 1 teams (wanderers, iggies, bosa, allstars, a villa, saints) were knocked out by the 4 semi finalists whilst only 2 sunday div 1 teams (downs, fulham) were knocked out by the 4 semi finalists.

cup stats show that top end of sunday certainly significantly stronger than top end of saturday this year by a long way.


Elizabeth Downs (Rd 1, knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
Elizabeth Grove (Rd 2 knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
Elizabeth Vale (Rd 1 defeated Sat Div 1, QF defeated Sunday Div 1)
Fulham Utd (Rd 1 defeated Saturday Div 1, Rd 3 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF defeated by Sunday Div 2)
Ingle Farm (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 3)
Para Hills East (Rd 3 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Parafield Gardens (Rd 2 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF defeated Saturday Div 1)
Pontian Eagles (Rd 3 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF defeated Saturday Div 1)
Salisbury Florina (Rd 3 defeated Sunday Div 1, QF knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
West Beach (Rd 1 knocked out by Saturday Div 1)

Adelaide Villa (Rd 3 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Adelaide Wanderers (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Allstars United (Rd 1 defeated Sunday Div 1, Rd 2 knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
BOSA (QF knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Modbury Jets (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
Old Ignatians (Rd 2 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
St Peters (Rd 2 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Salisbury Villa (Rd 3 defeated by Sunday Div 1)
Stirling Districts (Rd 2 knocked out by Saturday Div 1)
Sturt Marion (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)

[KS2011]

and good luck to you guys. Not at any stage was i saying you were an easy draw because4 as i know with a lot of Yugoslavian teams if you guys turn up switched on ready to play you can beat almoist anyone. All i was saying is that Bigpond underestimates us and says we are the only team Beograd have a chance again where as Valeboy said we have beaten both Gardens and Pontians when we've been at full strength

All good mate, i wasnt referring to your post just the topic in general... Whatever happens i believe we've done well only team left in sun div 2 since round 3.. Main focus for us is to stay in div 2 whatever happens in the cup is a bonus

[KING NUGGETT]

Two of the best Cup games you'll ever see yesterday,

Congratulations to the FARM & BOSA both Fantastic oppersition & unlucky to meet a determin Gardens in the Quarters they would've been magic Finals...

To our Boy you showed GARDENS GRIT & GUTS & all the faithfull are very proud of you ...

GARDENS FOR EVER FOR EVER GARDENS....

I have to agree with you KN. Obviously I would have preferred to see BOSA win but as a spectator you couldn't have asked for more. If it's possible in the amatuer league you could say that it will be a classic match to remember. Good luck on the league & cup doubles.

haywood djablowme you've gone fishing & bagged out quickly

Bodes yesterday is definatley one of those classic matches that I won't ever forget,

Bosa certainly proved a worthy opponent & would feel unlucky to have lost & rightly so as they had a Semi Final berth only to have it snatched at the death.
Appart from Ingle Farm they are certainly the best oppersition Club the Gardens have faced YTD & I believe they would be at the pointy end of the SUNDAY PREMIER LEAGUE.
The Ingle Farm boys can also hold there heads high as that too was a Epic Battle with a unfortunated loser & a worthy winner....

BRING ON WEST BEACH!!!

[KING NUGGETT]

[Karmann Ghia]

haywood djablowme you've gone fishing & bagged out quickly

Bodes yesterday is definatley one of those classic matches that I won't ever forget,

Bosa certainly proved a worthy opponent & would feel unlucky to have lost & rightly so as they had a Semi Final berth only to have it snatched at the death.
Appart from Ingle Farm they are certainly the best oppersition Club the Gardens have faced YTD & I believe they would be at the pointy end of the SUNDAY PREMIER LEAGUE.
The Ingle Farm boys can also hold there heads high as that too was a Epic Battle with a unfortunated loser & a worthy winner....

BRING ON WEST BEACH!!![/quote]


Don't respect the Pontians nugget? Got away with a win at parafield and defended bravely at pontians. That's why i love this game 100 people can watch the same game and you will have 100 different views about it

[KING NUGGETT]

WTF are you on about???
Of course I respect Pontians they are clear 2nd Div.1 Sun. & have made the Cup Semi Final because they a good side I just felt Bosa were the 2nd best side we played this season closely followed by Pontian.
Thats just my opinion from the games that Ive seen though..

[Caretaker Coach]

so I got bored at lunch and did a little bit of mathematics

i only used the games where div 1 teams got knocked out

end result is the 20 'Division 1' sides, 17 are out of the Cup - only 2 of them were knocked out by Saturday teams (West Beach and Stirling).

interestingly 6 saturday div 1 teams (wanderers, iggies, bosa, allstars, a villa, saints) were knocked out by the 4 semi finalists whilst only 2 sunday div 1 teams (downs, fulham) were knocked out by the 4 semi finalists.

cup stats show that top end of sunday certainly significantly stronger than top end of saturday this year by a long way.


Elizabeth Downs (Rd 1, knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
Elizabeth Grove (Rd 2 knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
Elizabeth Vale (Rd 1 defeated Sat Div 1, QF defeated Sunday Div 1)
Fulham Utd (Rd 1 defeated Saturday Div 1, Rd 3 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF defeated by Sunday Div 2)
Ingle Farm (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 3)
Para Hills East (Rd 3 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Parafield Gardens (Rd 2 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF defeated Saturday Div 1)
Pontian Eagles (Rd 3 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF defeated Saturday Div 1)
Salisbury Florina (Rd 3 defeated Sunday Div 1, QF knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
West Beach (Rd 1 knocked out by Saturday Div 1)

Adelaide Villa (Rd 3 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Adelaide Wanderers (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Allstars United (Rd 1 defeated Sunday Div 1, Rd 2 knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
BOSA (QF knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Modbury Jets (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 2)
Old Ignatians (Rd 2 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
St Peters (Rd 2 defeated Saturday Div 1, QF knocked out by Sunday Div 1)
Salisbury Villa (Rd 3 defeated by Sunday Div 1)
Stirling Districts (Rd 2 knocked out by Saturday Div 1)
Sturt Marion (Rd 1 knocked out by Sunday Div 1)

I think what the General was talking about in an earlier post, was the amount of Div 1 Saturday teams that were knocked out by Sunday div 1 teams playing on a Sunday ( as opposed to a Saturday ). It is not just game day, but training also, I wonder how many coaches restructure training for that week ? eg your body is conditioned to training Tues + Thurs and playing Sat, all of a sudden you have to play on a Sunday,do you alter the training for that week?
Having played in both comps, I think it makes a slight difference,not only with training but also availability ( for all clubs ), and that is an observation not an excuse. When the draw is made, you know when you are playing,you have to do your best to prepare for it.

[The General]

Yes that is what I was meaning to say.