Liverpool 2011/12

[Major Tom]

...... it's sad to see but majority of players would jump ship for an extra 20/30k a week

Or $20/$30 a week if playing Super League

[Facts and Stats]

if a player was offered 100k a week to go to City and CL or 150K a week to go to Liverpool....99% would go to LFC.

Is this assuming they'd start for both teams?

I thought players went places to win things? Its what you said earlier.... now you're saying its only money?

Feel free to post evidence that supports your 99% of players statement too. I can't wait to read it.

The 99% of course I cant prove, but I think you are mad if you dont think its true. All agents care about is their cut, and they do the deals.

[Nice One Cyril]

The reality is, the driving forces are different for different players at differing times of their careers and very much depends at what level they play.

But for the fans, it's all about winning trophies (even the League Cup). Walking down Wembley Way in May is hard to beat.

[Facts and Stats]

The reality is, the driving forces are different for different players at differing times of their careers and very much depends at what level they play.

But for the fans, it's all about winning trophies (even the League Cup). Walking down Wembley Way in May is hard to beat.

Nail on head.

[FRANKEL]

...... it's sad to see but majority of players would jump ship for an extra 20/30k a week

Or $20/$30 a week if playing Super League

I know a player who swapped clubs for an extra $50 a week piss poor really...

I remember a bloke didn't sign for sunderland when Roy keane was in charge because his wife said there were no good shops near there house laughable really

[Litmanen]

The reality is, the driving forces are different for different players at differing times of their careers and very much depends at what level they play.

But for the fans, it's all about winning trophies (even the League Cup). Walking down Wembley Way in May is hard to beat.

This implies all fans are just glory hunters and don't care for the club.

Not saying you guys are, i'm just saying it's not as black and white as you just made it.

[Facts and Stats]

The reality is, the driving forces are different for different players at differing times of their careers and very much depends at what level they play.

But for the fans, it's all about winning trophies (even the League Cup). Walking down Wembley Way in May is hard to beat.

This implies all fans are just glory hunters and don't care for the club.

Not saying you guys are, i'm just saying it's not as black and white as you just made it.

Not glory hunter at all, you support a team, form an early age, for whatever reason, and stay with them.

[Litmanen]

The reality is, the driving forces are different for different players at differing times of their careers and very much depends at what level they play.

But for the fans, it's all about winning trophies (even the League Cup). Walking down Wembley Way in May is hard to beat.

This implies all fans are just glory hunters and don't care for the club.

Not saying you guys are, i'm just saying it's not as black and white as you just made it.

Not glory hunter at all, you support a team, form an early age, for whatever reason, and stay with them.

You're saying you'd prefer the Carling cup over the CL, you then admitted it'd be better for the club if they made the CL, but you "don't like it" and prefer a night at Wembley.

Sounds to me like you care more for a day of glory than the long term future of your club. ( based on what you've said).

That's what i'm getting at.

[Facts and Stats]

You really are making something out of nothing.

At the start of next season this is my wish list (of course it wont happen). I think it makes it pretty clear. In order of preference

1 Win The league
2 Win the FA CUp
3 Win the Europa League
4 Win th4 Carling Cup
5 Get 2nd-4th place

Saldy ,many fans would have number 5 as number 2

[bapa]

You really are making something out of nothing.

At the start of next season this is my wish list (of course it wont happen). I think it makes it pretty clear. In order of preference

1 Win The league
2 Win the FA CUp
3 Win the Europa League
4 Win th4 Carling Cup
5 Get 2nd-4th place

Saldy ,many fans would have number 5 as number 2

u seriously, have problems.........

[Bomber]

You really are making something out of nothing.

At the start of next season this is my wish list (of course it wont happen). I think it makes it pretty clear. In order of preference

1 Win The league
2 Win the FA CUp
3 Win the Europa League
4 Win th4 Carling Cup
5 Get 2nd-4th place

Saldy ,many fans would have number 5 as number 2

I would just swap 4 and 5, but cant see why both couldnt be done anyway!

[LFTWNG11]

You really are making something out of nothing.

At the start of next season this is my wish list (of course it wont happen). I think it makes it pretty clear. In order of preference

1 Win The league
2 Win the FA CUp
3 Win the Europa League
4 Win th4 Carling Cup
5 Get 2nd-4th place

Saldy ,many fans would have number 5 as number 2

Ridiculous. If Liverpool finish 8th but with a Cup double this season... then next season finish 4th but with no Cups... are you going to say Liverpool did not improve?

[Litmanen]

You really are making something out of nothing.

At the start of next season this is my wish list (of course it wont happen). I think it makes it pretty clear. In order of preference

1 Win The league
2 Win the FA CUp
3 Win the Europa League
4 Win th4 Carling Cup
5 Get 2nd-4th place

Saldy ,many fans would have number 5 as number 2

So you're saying if Pool made the Champions league ( the only thing they have left to brag about).
You'd prefer them to finish third in their group and play Europa league. ( which is essentially the same thing, with weaker opposition).

If you don't like CL, how can you not like Europa as much?

[The Kop]

You really are making something out of nothing.

At the start of next season this is my wish list (of course it wont happen). I think it makes it pretty clear. In order of preference

1 Win The league
2 Win the FA CUp
3 Win the Europa League
4 Win th4 Carling Cup
5 Get 2nd-4th place

Saldy ,many fans would have number 5 as number 2

So you're saying if Pool made the Champions league ( the only thing they have left to brag about).
You'd prefer them to finish third in their group and play Europa league. ( which is essentially the same thing, with weaker opposition).

If you don't like CL, how can you not like Europa as much?

WTF, you're getting ridiculous now.
No one's saying or implying that. 2nd spot in CL you stay alive and progress, dunno what weir connection your drawing up here.

[Facts and Stats]

Litmanen (not arguing) I genuinely don't understand what you mean.

LFTWNG11, to me winning cups is better so yes I would prefer 2 cups every year and 8th. Obvioulsy winning the CL is great, and you can't win it if you dont qualify - I accept that.

Its all hypotetical, this season we have been rubbish most the time, I accept that.

This season to me the only winners will be 2 or 3 out of

Liverpool
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea

Every other team has not won a trophy,

[bapa]

Litmanen (not arguing) I genuinely don't understand what you mean.

LFTWNG11, to me winning cups is better so yes I would prefer 2 cups every year and 8th. Obvioulsy winning the CL is great, and you can't win it if you dont qualify - I accept that.

Its all hypotetical, this season we have been rubbish most the time, I accept that.

This season to me the only winners will be 2 or 3 out of

Liverpool
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea

Every other team has not won a trophy,

[Facts and Stats]

what are you laughing at?

[Bomber]

Litmanen (not arguing) I genuinely don't understand what you mean.

LFTWNG11, to me winning cups is better so yes I would prefer 2 cups every year and 8th. Obvioulsy winning the CL is great, and you can't win it if you dont qualify - I accept that.

Its all hypotetical, this season we have been rubbish most the time, I accept that.

This season to me the only winners will be 2 or 3 out of

Liverpool
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea

Every other team has not won a trophy,

Reading and Charlton may see some silverware.

[Facts and Stats]

talking premier league, sorry Bomber.

[Bomber]

talking premier league, sorry Bomber.

I know. At least you can call yourself a true Liverpool supporter........from there, been there, member there etc etc. Fancy others trying to tell you what YOU should prefer....

[Vale_boy05]

Litmanen (not arguing) I genuinely don't understand what you mean.

LFTWNG11, to me winning cups is better so yes I would prefer 2 cups every year and 8th. Obvioulsy winning the CL is great, and you can't win it if you dont qualify - I accept that.

Its all hypotetical, this season we have been rubbish most the time, I accept that.

This season to me the only winners will be 2 or 3 out of

Liverpool
Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea

Every other team has not won a trophy,

If Newcastle get 4th i'll consider that a win. I was expecting a midtable finish for the season but to go top 4

[Facts and Stats]

talking premier league, sorry Bomber.

I know. At least you can call yourself a true Liverpool supporter........from there, been there, member there etc etc. Fancy others trying to tell you what YOU should prefer....

Fo rcomplete honsety and transperencey I am not from there. And I have never claimed to be (for those that don't know me). I started supporting them when they were in the FA Cup final v Man utd...and we lost, so I am no bandwagoner!!!

[Bomber]

talking premier league, sorry Bomber.

I know. At least you can call yourself a true Liverpool supporter........from there, been there, member there etc etc. Fancy others trying to tell you what YOU should prefer....

Fo rcomplete honsety and transperencey I am not from there. And I have never claimed to be (for those that don't know me). I started supporting them when they were in the FA Cup final v Man utd...and we lost, so I am no bandwagoner!!!

OK my apologies for that bit. But hey, I wasnt born in Croydon either (but only a few miles away).

[Facts and Stats]

No need to apologise. Unlike some... I tell the truth....most the time on here!

[LFTWNG11]

talking premier league, sorry Bomber.

I know. At least you can call yourself a true Liverpool supporter........from there, been there, member there etc etc. Fancy others trying to tell you what YOU should prefer....

Who is telling him what he should prefer?!

I am just debating the absurd fact that he would prefer finishing lower in the league if it meant a Carling Cup triumph. Do you agree with that? I certainly don't, and I am allowed to debate him on that fact. Isn't that the point of a forum?

[Los Del Eague]

talking premier league, sorry Bomber.

I know. At least you can call yourself a true Liverpool supporter........from there, been there, member there etc etc. Fancy others trying to tell you what YOU should prefer....

Fo rcomplete honsety and transperencey I am not from there. And I have never claimed to be (for those that don't know me). I started supporting them when they were in the FA Cup final v Man utd...and we lost, so I am no bandwagoner!!!

an official OOT'er

[Facts and Stats]

nowadays the same as you ooc'er

[Los Del Eague]

Litmanen and his mates

[Los Del Eague]

nowadays the same as you ooc'er

At least we aint whoppers

[matrightyeh]

lol thats true