Ref cancels match after bash threats

[sephiroth]

http://weekly-times-messenger.whereiliv ... h-threats/

AN INVESTIGATION has been launched into crowd behaviour at a soccer match involving Ferryden Park club Pontian, following allegations a spectator threatened to “bash” the referee.

The referee called off the away game at Ingle Farm midway through the second half on Sunday, August 28, after allegedly receiving abuse from sections of Pontian supporters.

The incident followed the referee’s decision to send off Pontian’s goalkeeper for handling the ball outside the box.

One eyewitness told the Weekly Times Messenger a Pontian fan shouted to the referee: “Decisions like that get refs bashed and you’ll get yours at the end of the game.”

The incident - the second involving threats or violence towards referees at SA Amateur Soccer League matches this season - is being investigated by the league.

SA Amateur Soccer Referee Association president Andrew Leetham declined to comment on the specifics of the latest incident.

However, he was concerned by the risks to referees and called on the league to review umpire safety.

“It’s a concern that there have been more of these incidents happening than there have been in recent years, and I think we need to sit down with the amateur league, and the clubs, and identify what we need to do to ensure umpire safety,” Mr Leetham said.

“The referee involved was an experienced referee and wouldn’t have taken the action he did if he didn’t feel it was warranted.

“As a general rule, none of our members are expected to be placed in a position where they feel at risk.”

Pontian coach George Kargiotis declined to comment.

Ingle Farm coach Paul Simpson said his club’s spectators were not involved in the incident and he supported the referee’s decision to abandon the match, with scores tied at 1-1.

[Porky]

thought it would get in the messenger. Bloody idiots. Pull ya heads in

[Porky]

Good clubs would ban supporters who did this crap

[Ollo Ollo]

I see the amateur league has posted on their site the Farm vs Pontians game was a 1-1 draw.

From all accounts I have read on this site how on earth did they come to that conclusion?

Shame on you amateur league. After last week’s events, a club supporter then verbally threatens to bash a ref and you don't punish the club for it. And tonight you Premier Division is plastered all over Adelaide Now for all of Australia to see. Clearly your write up on your website last week are just words on a page in which the league itself will not act upon. Gutless, Cowardly and absolutely disgusting are just a few words that come to mind.

If this is the case, Bill, Alex and crew, you all need to have a hard look at yourselves. If you are prepared to stand back and be bystanders instead of acting, maybe it is time for a change in guard down th eleague who will not condone this type of behaviour.

If I was Ingle Farm I will be making a please explain call to the league because this is a joke.

[Nice One Cyril]

I see the amateur league has posted on their site the Farm vs Pontians game was a 1-1 draw.

From all accounts I have read on this site how on earth did they come to that conclusion?

Shame on you amateur league. After last week’s events, a club supporter then verbally threatens to bash a ref and you don't punish the club for it. And tonight you Premier Division is plastered all over Adelaide Now for all of Australia to see. Clearly your write up on your website last week are just words on a page in which the league itself will not act upon. Gutless, Cowardly and absolutely disgusting are just a few words that come to mind.

If this is the case, Bill, Alex and crew, you all need to have a hard look at yourselves. If you are prepared to stand back and be bystanders instead of acting, maybe it is time for a change in guard down th eleague who will not condone this type of behaviour.

If I was Ingle Farm I will be making a please explain call to the league because this is a joke.

To be fair, the club can't possibly know in advance what some pillock is going to shout at a game, all they can do is react to it after it's been said. It wasn't the players' or the coach's fault.

[Ollo Ollo]

I see the amateur league has posted on their site the Farm vs Pontians game was a 1-1 draw.

From all accounts I have read on this site how on earth did they come to that conclusion?

Shame on you amateur league. After last week’s events, a club supporter then verbally threatens to bash a ref and you don't punish the club for it. And tonight you Premier Division is plastered all over Adelaide Now for all of Australia to see. Clearly your write up on your website last week are just words on a page in which the league itself will not act upon. Gutless, Cowardly and absolutely disgusting are just a few words that come to mind.

If this is the case, Bill, Alex and crew, you all need to have a hard look at yourselves. If you are prepared to stand back and be bystanders instead of acting, maybe it is time for a change in guard down th eleague who will not condone this type of behaviour.

If I was Ingle Farm I will be making a please explain call to the league because this is a joke.

To be fair, the club can't possibly know in advance what some pillock is going to shout at a game, all they can do is react to it after it's been said. It wasn't the players' or the coach's fault.

Fair point but the president was the fella in the yellow coat who seemed to got out of hand as well. I wonder what the ref match report said.

[PONTIAN]

seriously this is getting out of hand. Whos the mug that said that crap to the messenger. "we will bash them after the game". Its a lot of crap I can tell you that. Yelling out to the ref and threatening to bash people are 2 different things. Calling the ref a F wit and stuff like that is not threatening to bash him. He should take more time in learning how to ref the game consistantly for both sides than to listening to people slag him on the sideline.

[Between the Sticks]

seriously this is getting out of hand. Whos the mug that said that crap to the messenger. "we will bash them after the game". Its a lot of crap I can tell you that. Yelling out to the ref and threatening to bash people are 2 different things. Calling the ref a F wit and stuff like that is not threatening to bash him. He should take more time in learning how to ref the game consistantly for both sides than to listening to people slag him on the sideline.

ditto

[Nice One Cyril]

seriously this is getting out of hand. Whos the mug that said that crap to the messenger. "we will bash them after the game". Its a lot of crap I can tell you that. Yelling out to the ref and threatening to bash people are 2 different things. Calling the ref a F wit and stuff like that is not threatening to bash him. He should take more time in learning how to ref the game consistantly for both sides than to listening to people slag him on the sideline.

I suspected it was all the referees fault.

[PONTIAN]

I suspected it was all the referees fault.[/quote]

not saying that mate just trying to get the point across that I feel the better refs tend to be more consistant with their decisions to both sides. This adds to a better game and all involved are lot happier. Steve is the only ref to come to the sidelines on three different occasions this year to talk to our supporters threatening to get people removed. He should just shut up and let the game play out. Some of the refs we have had this year have been great, they tend to concentrate on the game

[gone]

Can't believe Pontian and Handyman are still blaming the referee. It's this sort of attitude that perpetuates this rubbish. Cop it sweet, tell us you know who the culprit is and have banned him from this weeks game, & post an apology from your president. Do that and it all goes away. Control your spectators like you're supposed to when the ref asks & this would never have happened!

[Nice One Cyril]

I suspected it was all the referees fault.

not saying that mate just trying to get the point across that I feel the better refs tend to be more consistant with their decisions to both sides. This adds to a better game and all involved are lot happier. Steve is the only ref to come to the sidelines on three different occasions this year to talk to our supporters threatening to get people removed. He should just shut up and let the game play out. Some of the refs we have had this year have been great, they tend to concentrate on the game [/quote]

We all know some refs are better than others but, if things carry on the way they're going, refs will just refuse to officiate at certain clubs. Then where will we all be? They're a necessary evil and clubs need to understand that, and take a firmer approach to those supporters who are are bit too boisterous rather than backing them up because they're mates or whatever. Surely a quiet word from the Prez or someone would suffice in most cases.

[PONTIAN]

Can't believe Pontian and Handyman are still blaming the referee. It's this sort of attitude that perpetuates this rubbish. Cop it sweet, tell us you know who the culprit is and have banned him from this weeks game, & post an apology from your president. Do that and it all goes away. Control your spectators like you're supposed to when the ref asks & this would never have happened!

Mate were you their? you sound like you were the ref? are you Steve? you must believe all this threats of bashings are true

[DOC]

the ref obviously felt threatened, and do you blame him with recent incidents in the league, pontians dropped the ball big time on this one

[PONTIAN]

[/quote]

We all know some refs are better than others but, if things carry on the way they're going, refs will just refuse to officiate at certain clubs. Then where will we all be? They're a necessary evil and clubs need to understand that, and take a firmer approach to those supporters who are are bit too boisterous rather than backing them up because they're mates or whatever. Surely a quiet word from the Prez or someone would suffice in most cases.[/quote]

I understand where your coming from mate. maybe some words to a few supporters will be said this week. Just trying to get the message across that no one in our group was threatening to bash the ref, Our club is making the right changes on the pitches and off. we are not happy with people making up stuff. If they think they heard something then speak up and point them out or what they looked like.

[DOC]

We all know some refs are better than others but, if things carry on the way they're going, refs will just refuse to officiate at certain clubs. Then where will we all be? They're a necessary evil and clubs need to understand that, and take a firmer approach to those supporters who are are bit too boisterous rather than backing them up because they're mates or whatever. Surely a quiet word from the Prez or someone would suffice in most cases.[/quote]

I understand where your coming from mate. maybe some words to a few supporters will be said this week. Just trying to get the message across that no one in our group was threatening to bash the ref, Our club is making the right changes on the pitches and off. we are not happy with people making up stuff. If they think they heard something then speak up and point them out or what they looked like.[/quote]
your the only one saying different

[BestOfWhatsLeft]

[quote="Ollo Ollo"]I see the amateur league has posted on their site the Farm vs Pontians game was a 1-1 draw.

From all accounts I have read on this site how on earth did they come to that conclusion?

Shame on you amateur league. After last week’s events, a club supporter then verbally threatens to bash a ref and you don't punish the club for it. And tonight you Premier Division is plastered all over Adelaide Now for all of Australia to see. Clearly your write up on your website last week are just words on a page in which the league itself will not act upon. Gutless, Cowardly and absolutely disgusting are just a few words that come to mind.

If this is the case, Bill, Alex and crew, you all need to have a hard look at yourselves. If you are prepared to stand back and be bystanders instead of acting, maybe it is time for a change in guard down th eleague who will not condone this type of behaviour.

So you were there to witness this threat? It's a load of bull.
NO THREATS WERE MADE! Messenger should be smarter than to publish
Hearsay. Could get into trouble for doing so. I Don't recall a game where a ref doesn't cop abuse from the sidelines. Especially club refs! I Remember the Parafield crowd going feral at our ref (who is a former league ref which i think we pay to officiate)! As a ref at any level you should learn to deal with it. In every sport in every country, referees get abused in some way. Not saying it should be accepted, but it always has and always will happen! Watch a game of AFL and yr almost guaranteed to see the cameras cut to supporters going off at an umpire. But the game goes on because unlike our mate Steve, they deal with it. Sticks and stones Stevie boy.... Sticks and stones mate!

[Between the Sticks]

oh please u freakin no brainers....Steve is a poor ref and thats all there is too it.....i couldnt care less if he never steps foot on a pitch again but im not about to succumb to the pathetic rubbish thats on here about how we should control the people on the sidelines...its amateur sport with no gates fences or entry fee.....you cannot take away people right to voice their opinion....the ref gets paid to do a job and all this citing of rules and regulations about club officials should also be pointed out that the ref's also have a responsibility....most are fine but some are less than adequate and i will not walk on egg shells for them..... wasnt at that game and have no affiliation with the Pontians but i do know Steve is useless....my right to an opinion.....if people are behind the lines and saying whatever they like its their business....fkn simple....otherwise we may all go and watch lawn bowls on a sunday arvo....

[DOC]

oh please u freakin no brainers....Steve is a poor ref and thats all there is too it.....i couldnt care less if he never steps foot on a pitch again but im not about to succumb to the pathetic rubbish thats on here about how we should control the people on the sidelines...its amateur sport with no gates fences or entry fee.....you cannot take away people right to voice their opinion....the ref gets paid to do a job and all this citing of rules and regulations about club officials should also be pointed out that the ref's also have a responsibility....most are fine but some are less than adequate and i will not walk on egg shells for them..... wasnt at that game and have no affiliation with the Pontians but i do know Steve is useless....my right to an opinion.....if people are behind the lines and saying whatever they like its their business....shiraz simple....otherwise we may all go and watch lawn bowls on a sunday arvo....

YOU CANNOT THREATEN SOMEONE ANYWHERE, FULL STOP. refs do not need this shit in their lifes with players giving them enough greif etc, good on him to standing up to the shit he cops, now pontian are in the shit

[Between the Sticks]

oh please u freakin no brainers....Steve is a poor ref and thats all there is too it.....i couldnt care less if he never steps foot on a pitch again but im not about to succumb to the pathetic rubbish thats on here about how we should control the people on the sidelines...its amateur sport with no gates fences or entry fee.....you cannot take away people right to voice their opinion....the ref gets paid to do a job and all this citing of rules and regulations about club officials should also be pointed out that the ref's also have a responsibility....most are fine but some are less than adequate and i will not walk on egg shells for them..... wasnt at that game and have no affiliation with the Pontians but i do know Steve is useless....my right to an opinion.....if people are behind the lines and saying whatever they like its their business....shiraz simple....otherwise we may all go and watch lawn bowls on a sunday arvo....

YOU CANNOT THREATEN SOMEONE ANYWHERE, FULL STOP. refs do not need this cabernet in their lifes with players giving them enough greif etc, good on him to standing up to the cabernet he cops, now pontian are in the cabernet

my apolgies if i wrote it is acceptable to threaten a referee but no you are corret in that but disputing decisions and name calling has been happening since the beginning of time and it will not stop...but it is not reason to abandone a game.....dont think it has been confirmed Steve was threatened.....

[PONTIAN]

Steves Junk enough said about that. If he was threatened in any way by someone. Take the matter further with the police against the person not the club playing a game. I was on the pitch and didnt hear a threat at all. I did hear colourful language about his reffing capabilities. but after the first 23minutes I no why.

[DOC]

oh please u freakin no brainers....Steve is a poor ref and thats all there is too it.....i couldnt care less if he never steps foot on a pitch again but im not about to succumb to the pathetic rubbish thats on here about how we should control the people on the sidelines...its amateur sport with no gates fences or entry fee.....you cannot take away people right to voice their opinion....the ref gets paid to do a job and all this citing of rules and regulations about club officials should also be pointed out that the ref's also have a responsibility....most are fine but some are less than adequate and i will not walk on egg shells for them..... wasnt at that game and have no affiliation with the Pontians but i do know Steve is useless....my right to an opinion.....if people are behind the lines and saying whatever they like its their business....shiraz simple....otherwise we may all go and watch lawn bowls on a sunday arvo....

YOU CANNOT THREATEN SOMEONE ANYWHERE, FULL STOP. refs do not need this cabernet in their lifes with players giving them enough greif etc, good on him to standing up to the cabernet he cops, now pontian are in the cabernet

my apolgies if i wrote it is acceptable to threaten a referee but no you are corret in that but disputing decisions and name calling has been happening since the beginning of time and it will not stop...but it is not reason to abandone a game.....dont think it has been confirmed Steve was threatened.....

it has been confirmed, the official in the vest threatened him, end of

[BestOfWhatsLeft]

oh please u freakin no brainers....Steve is a poor ref and thats all there is too it.....i couldnt care less if he never steps foot on a pitch again but im not about to succumb to the pathetic rubbish thats on here about how we should control the people on the sidelines...its amateur sport with no gates fences or entry fee.....you cannot take away people right to voice their opinion....the ref gets paid to do a job and all this citing of rules and regulations about club officials should also be pointed out that the ref's also have a responsibility....most are fine but some are less than adequate and i will not walk on egg shells for them..... wasnt at that game and have no affiliation with the Pontians but i do know Steve is useless....my right to an opinion.....if people are behind the lines and saying whatever they like its their business....shiraz simple....otherwise we may all go and watch lawn bowls on a sunday arvo....

YOU CANNOT THREATEN SOMEONE ANYWHERE, FULL STOP. refs do not need this cabernet in their lifes with players giving them enough greif etc, good on him to standing up to the cabernet he cops, now pontian are in the cabernet

Once again, NO THREATS WERE MADE!
Ref was just a soft cock who couldn't handle getting teased so he took his ball and went home! EVERY clubs supporters abuse referees, Fact!

[DOC]

oh please u freakin no brainers....Steve is a poor ref and thats all there is too it.....i couldnt care less if he never steps foot on a pitch again but im not about to succumb to the pathetic rubbish thats on here about how we should control the people on the sidelines...its amateur sport with no gates fences or entry fee.....you cannot take away people right to voice their opinion....the ref gets paid to do a job and all this citing of rules and regulations about club officials should also be pointed out that the ref's also have a responsibility....most are fine but some are less than adequate and i will not walk on egg shells for them..... wasnt at that game and have no affiliation with the Pontians but i do know Steve is useless....my right to an opinion.....if people are behind the lines and saying whatever they like its their business....shiraz simple....otherwise we may all go and watch lawn bowls on a sunday arvo....

YOU CANNOT THREATEN SOMEONE ANYWHERE, FULL STOP. refs do not need this cabernet in their lifes with players giving them enough greif etc, good on him to standing up to the cabernet he cops, now pontian are in the cabernet

Once again, NO THREATS WERE MADE!
Ref was just a soft grenache who couldn't handle getting teased so he took his ball and went home! EVERY clubs supporters abuse referees, Fact!

difference between abuse, threatening and banter

[PONTIAN]

it has been confirmed, the official in the vest threatened him, end of[/quote]

you are full of S...T. no Threats made especially by the chairman. Yes our chairman carried on but it was all name calling you tool

[BestOfWhatsLeft]

It's confirmed..... You have no idea!
You're a tool, end of!

[DOC]

it has been confirmed, the official in the vest threatened him, end of

you are full of S...T. no Threats made especially by the chairman. Yes our chairman carried on but it was all name calling you tool[/quote]
not what i have heard, from very reputable sources mind you as well

[PONTIAN]

It's confirmed..... You have no idea!
You're a tool, end of!

what club you follow? I know you dont play. too quick on the keyboard, come watch us at HINDMARSH

[Between the Sticks]

It's confirmed..... You have no idea!
You're a tool, end of!

what club you follow? I know you dont play. too quick on the keyboard, come watch us at HINDMARSH

vista reserves

[DOC]

It's confirmed..... You have no idea!
You're a tool, end of!

what club you follow? I know you dont play. too quick on the keyboard, come watch us at HINDMARSH