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FFA U/13 Skilleroos 2012

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What's happening FFA U/13 Skilleroos 2012
1/ Heard that they will form their own club .
2/ Should clubs give their best players.
3/ Once ffa have destroyed sorry devoloped these players what happens.
4/ So let's get this the club develops the player at their expense pay's ffa and ffsa for affiliation then gives them their best players to ffa. now when ffa don't want those players any more they will come back to the club to pick up some more developed players and give the burnt out ones back to the club .
5/Communists .
6/ Well done ffa by the way were do i send my pay pack to :?:

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So I guess you dont agree with how SASI works then ?
4/ So let's get this the club develops the player at their expense
I thought the parents pay the club to develop their kids ? I dont hear of any clubs charging $0.......
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  :twisted: funny how these organizations can do anything they like with no community or member discussion & debate :?   SASI  :roll:  what's so good about it  :?:  how many players have they produced over the years  :?:  how have they improved the game locally  :?:
:twisted: n& the Clayton's State team, a glorified academy  :idea:  can anyone enlighten us on how much it costs for the privilege of representing the FFSA oops I mean State  :P
you parents are the biggest sops around, u have no idea, go have a look at these organizations past records  :oops:  Most of you were the biggest critics, until your kids started to play  :mrgreen:
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Zeljko Jurin wrote:So I guess you dont agree with how SASI works then ?
4/ So let's get this the club develops the player at their expense
I thought the parents pay the club to develop their kids ? I dont hear of any clubs charging $0.......
:mrgreen: u reckon it costs nothing :?: :roll: nothings free in this world :!: I'm sick & tired of paying taxes & fees to give unanswerable people a licence to experiment :evil: if you son is in you pay, not me :idea:
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clubman wrote:What's happening FFA U/13 Skilleroos 2012
1/ Heard that they will form their own club .
2/ Should clubs give their best players.
3/ Once ffa have destroyed sorry devoloped these players what happens.
4/ So let's get this the club develops the player at their expense pay's ffa and ffsa for affiliation then gives them their best players to ffa. now when ffa don't want those players any more they will come back to the club to pick up some more developed players and give the burnt out ones back to the club .
5/Communists .
6/ Well done ffa by the way were do i send my pay pack to :?:

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Conspiracy I say!
Haven't our State teams got red in the strip?....mmm..isn't red a communist colour? :shock:
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unfortuantly, junior clubs are part time, so the FFA has no choice but to intervene and create elite programs for the elite kids. i dont think parents of these selected kids will complain about it! think about it, european/sth american countries - their own FA would never intervene in youth development as the clubs themselves have accademies that pump out players. we aint got that here, and until we do, the FFA will continue its current path imo.
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I agree with the sentiment regarding what happens to a kid that gets rejected by the system when they no longer are affiliated to a club. Reading comments on here from certain clubs I doubt whether they would be welcomed back.

The problem is that FFA recognises that the standard of coaching at club level is generally inadequate for elite players and that too many clubs are more interested in their own clubs lifting trophies at junior level and less interested in kids getting what is best for them.

Remember, the clubs don’t own the kids. Clubs charge a fee for kids to be coached and play.

Obviously I am going to be called a tosser by people who are more interested in having the ‘best’ junior club in the state, but guess what, its not about you its about the kids.
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incognito wrote:unfortuantly, junior clubs are part time, so the FFA has no choice but to intervene and create elite programs for the elite kids. i dont think parents of these selected kids will complain about it! think about it, european/sth american countries - their own FA would never intervene in youth development as the clubs themselves have accademies that pump out players. we aint got that here, and until we do, the FFA will continue its current path imo.
Correct

All over Europe there are 'amateur' clubs, which ALL 30 odd clubs here in Adelaide are....amateur, run by volunteers and coached by volunteers !!

Then you have professional clubs and their academies, which we dont have here

In Europe, if you are good enough, you move from the amateur club to the professional club

Because there are no professional clubs here (except AU but have no junior pathway yet), then the FFA/FFSA must somehow 'try' and develop the more talented players even more

No child is forced to play for State (and hence pay for the trip), if you dont want your child involved, you wont send them out to trials............simple really !!

If the talk is true, there is a big shake up coming.............
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harrycripps wrote:
Obviously I am going to be called a tosser by people who are more interested in having the ‘best’ junior club in the state, but guess what, its not about you its about the kids.
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Correct

All over Europe there are 'amateur' clubs, which ALL 30 odd clubs here in Adelaide are....amateur, run by volunteers and coached by volunteers !!

Then you have professional clubs and their academies, which we dont have here

In Europe, if you are good enough, you move from the amateur club to the professional club

Because there are no professional clubs here (except AC they have a junior pathway ), then the FFA , AC and FFSA must somehow 'try' and develop the more talented players even more

No child is forced to play for State (and hence pay for the trip), if you dont want your child involved, you wont send them out to trials............simple really !!

If the talk is true, there is a big shake up coming.............
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Zeljko Jurin wrote:
incognito wrote:unfortuantly, junior clubs are part time, so the FFA has no choice but to intervene and create elite programs for the elite kids. i dont think parents of these selected kids will complain about it! think about it, european/sth american countries - their own FA would never intervene in youth development as the clubs themselves have accademies that pump out players. we aint got that here, and until we do, the FFA will continue its current path imo.
Correct

All over Europe there are 'amateur' clubs, which ALL 30 odd clubs here in Adelaide are....amateur, run by volunteers and coached by volunteers !!

Then you have professional clubs and their academies, which we dont have here

In Europe, if you are good enough, you move from the amateur club to the professional club

Because there are no professional clubs here (except AU but have no junior pathway yet), then the FFA/FFSA must somehow 'try' and develop the more talented players even more

No child is forced to play for State (and hence pay for the trip), if you dont want your child involved, you wont send them out to trials............simple really !!

If the talk is true, there is a big shake up coming.............
:lol: what a joke :!: the ffa's job is to develop the game, not the player :mrgreen: give resources to help clubs become professional, instead of spending millions on world cup bids and false junior academies  :twisted:
:mrgreen: is the only cost of State the flight :?: go check :oops: on 1 hand u say Oz can't develop players & on the other u say if they can't pay hard luck :shock:  :roll:  :oops:  :(
:idea: I hope that the Fed Government investigation of the FFA includes the FFSA :|
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Where did I say "if they cant pay hard luck' ?
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And if you think local clubs can become professional (ie) have paid employees and full time coaches, you are kidding yourself !!!
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Zeljko Jurin wrote:If the talk is true, there is a big shake up coming.............
Well don't hold out on us, spill the beans.
What talk, and who's the one doing the talking??
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Zeljko Jurin wrote:And if you think local clubs can become professional (ie) have paid employees and full time coaches, you are kidding yourself !!!
8) because there are people out there with vision, AU are the 1st. Just got to get rid of all the small minded short sited people & with the the proper help of the Feds we'll have clubs similar to Europe :D can't be done :?: isn't that what the old Crioats told the young guns :wink: looks like all the guns are getting old :P :lol:
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You like playing the devils advocate.....just like me :lol:

I hope local clubs do become professional, just cant see it happening in the our lifetime.......
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Zeljko Jurin wrote:You like playing the devils advocate.....just like me :lol:

I hope local clubs do become professional, just cant see it happening in the our lifetime.......
Only reason it wont happen is because none are willing to band together for the right reasons. :x
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