Barnett

[John Cena]

we really need a coach that understands the womans game and sees the players week in week out....thats just my opinion

[gee_kay]

we really need a coach that understands the womans game and sees the players week in week out....thats just my opinion

If he were coaching the men you'd be calling for his head

[Caretaker Coach]

we really need a coach that understands the womans game and sees the players week in week out....thats just my opinion

If he were coaching the men you'd be calling for his head

Can you please elaborate on the question ? I thought J.C. made a good point,and i dont see how your question relates to what he said ?
Who appoints the Reds W-League Coach and when/where was it advertised ?

[Red-4-Life]

He needs to go, seriously. The players he's got are quality, he just doesnt know what to do with them and thats been the case for 3 seasons now. 20 games without a win is disgraceful as a manager.

I don't blame the players, yes sometimes they have poor games and get belted, but considering the squad has changed so much for this season and results are the same, the manager needs to put his hand up and walk out. Barnett is a dud

[Ibrox]

I wouldn't go as far as saying the players he has got are 'quality' (when compared to the rest of the league, just being realistic) although this year he certainly has a more experienced squad. Having said that though they have certainly been good enough to do better than 20 games without a win! Springs to mind last season during that televised drinks break, where about all he had to say was 'Hey girls, lets try not to concede any more goals eh?'.

That was pathetic on so many levels, means he is either incompetent or doesn't give a flying monkey's. Either way needs to go.

[Red-4-Life]

I wouldn't go as far as saying the players he has got are 'quality' (when compared to the rest of the league, just being realistic) although this year he certainly has a more experienced squad. Having said that though they have certainly been good enough to do better than 20 games without a win! Springs to mind last season during that televised drinks break, where about all he had to say was 'Hey girls, lets try not to concede any more goals eh?'.

That was pathetic on so many levels, means he is either incompetent or doesn't give a flying monkey's. Either way needs to go.

yeah Lady Reds dont have the same level of players as your Sydney and Brisbane, but still the squad they have is very capable I believe, of making the playoffs. I know that if they play as well as they potentially can, they can be a team who can win a few games. At the moment, some tactical changes need to be made, a system where goals can be scored. I have faith that this team can get 3 or 4 wins this season. It doesnt matter who they play, as long as they are the better team on the day, they'll come up victors!

[The General]

Agree, I cant believe that he doesnt make changes when the team is struggling,most of us would,I really feel for the players.
How did he get the gig anyway,was it advertised,or handed to him ?
On paper, he may be even better credentialed coach then the other states,but when it comes to women's football,he hasnt a clue sorry to say.

[makaveli]

he is shocking, has to go! with the team they have assembled this year how he has not yet got a result is beyond me. 20 games with out a win is a joke, unacceptable. From what i have heard his communication with his players is non-existent and in my opinion he is not cut out for a job represnting our state. he is a

[M@rvin]

If he was coaching the United men he would have been gone long ago.
Does the club care whats happening with the women?
How are they going to attract more people to the games if they keep playing this way.
There must be other coaches in SA that can do better.

[Joe Bloggs]

the men have unlimited $$$ to bring the best players shiraz brain, these girls dont get paid, how u gonna attract the matilda type players to Adelaide? ive said b4 in other posts people here are dreaming that the team can get great results, the strength of the league is in the eastern states, tell me who is a match winner then? totally different to the men's game. Barnett is not stupid, more more championships & Trophies than you muppets put together! Good on Richie for having anough sense to leave the basket case women's game & get back into the boys/men, smart move, Mick should do the same!

[John Cena]

we really need a coach that understands the womans game and sees the players week in week out....thats just my opinion

If he were coaching the men you'd be calling for his head

are you serious G, too many shooters last night?

[gee_kay]

U tell me John seriously everyone was calling for viddies head after one bad year this bloke hasn't coached his team to a win yet. So again I'll pose the question if he coached the men would u not be calling for his sacking

[Red-4-Life]

If he was coaching the United men he would have been gone long ago.
Does the club care whats happening with the women?
How are they going to attract more people to the games if they keep playing this way.
There must be other coaches in SA that can do better.

+1

Results = happy fans. Winning will draw more people to games and grow interest in womens football in SA. Its already fairly big in NSW and QLD, better than here anyway. Coz those teams win!

[John Cena]

G, we are not talking about a mens team, if he was coaching a mens team and they finish on the bottom every season then yes would be exactly the same, sorry mate but you cannot have a guy that has coached men all his life expected to coach womens, especially when he doesnt go out to watch many womens prems game during the season, as I said before let someone coach the lady reds team that know what the players can do and watches them play week in week out....

[Black Hawk]

He has had very ordinary talent to work with which is why more younger girls are now getting the opportunity. This poor talent relates back to the prems and womens football in general in the past where the coaching standard was low, with respect to those who donated their time how many football coaches have been of a good football standard.

The facts are the lady reds are only U14 boys zone team standard.

This is now being addressed with greater emphasis on SASI and younger reds girls. Getting guys like Steve Maxwell to come into womens football will also help the general coaching pool. This is intergenerational and will take time.

Barnett does not need to watch the prems week in week out as the majority of those players are too slow and old. Investment is needed in the need generation.

[John Cena]

He has had very ordinary talent to work with which is why more younger girls are now getting the opportunity. This poor talent relates back to the prems and womens football in general in the past where the coaching standard was low, with respect to those who donated their time how many football coaches have been of a good football standard.

The facts are the lady reds are only U14 boys zone team standard.

This is now being addressed with greater emphasis on SASI and younger reds girls. Getting guys like Steve Maxwell to come into womens football will also help the general coaching pool. This is intergenerational and will take time.

Barnett does not need to watch the prems week in week out as the majority of those players are too slow and old. Investment is needed in the need generation.

Lets see how long maxi stays in the womans game,,,,,

[Joe Bloggs]

well said Black Hawk, these muppets have no idea, ur right on U/14 boys standard at best. Good on Maxi for getting involved he will realise, like Barnett,like Richie, the culture is social & until the next generation are coming through we are all wasting our time. training once a week for 4 months, you got to be kidding, its almost laughable, but you clowns think & put pressure on the coaches & players to make miracles!!! tell me why do we need to get players from outside the state? Cos we ainst got quality!

[one nil]

He has had very ordinary talent to work with which is why more younger girls are now getting the opportunity. This poor talent relates back to the prems and womens football in general in the past where the coaching standard was low, with respect to those who donated their time how many football coaches have been of a good football standard.

The facts are the lady reds are only U14 boys zone team standard.

This is now being addressed with greater emphasis on SASI and younger reds girls. Getting guys like Steve Maxwell to come into womens football will also help the general coaching pool. This is intergenerational and will take time.

Barnett does not need to watch the prems week in week out as the majority of those players are too slow and old. Investment is needed in the need generation.

Just when I was beginning to think everyone on this forum is delusional you have managed to add some credibility to this topic. Sorry girls but your team is terrible, and it has very little, if anything to do with the coach. If you really believe that those girls are capable players then this explains why your game is in such a shocking state locally. bad technique, bad decision making, bad game awareness, in fact, it was downright painful to watch. And they are the BEST in the State

I dont mean to be cruel but until you people get real and understand exactly where the game in SA is, well, it will get far worse before it gets better.

[Easy Tiger]

He has had very ordinary talent to work with which is why more younger girls are now getting the opportunity. This poor talent relates back to the prems and womens football in general in the past where the coaching standard was low, with respect to those who donated their time how many football coaches have been of a good football standard.

The facts are the lady reds are only U14 boys zone team standard.

This is now being addressed with greater emphasis on SASI and younger reds girls. Getting guys like Steve Maxwell to come into womens football will also help the general coaching pool. This is intergenerational and will take time.

Barnett does not need to watch the prems week in week out as the majority of those players are too slow and old. Investment is needed in the need generation.

Just when I was beginning to think everyone on this forum is delusional you have managed to add some credibility to this topic. Sorry girls but your team is terrible, and it has very little, if anything to do with the coach. If you really believe that those girls are capable players then this explains why your game is in such a shocking state locally. bad technique, bad decision making, bad game awareness, in fact, it was downright painful to watch. And they are the BEST in the State

I dont mean to be cruel but until you people get real and understand exactly where the game in SA is, well, it will get far worse before it gets better.

You obviously don't know that many of the players are NOT from SA!!! You talk talk talk about the game but you don't know a thing about what the players are like etc, you see one wleague game a year and then you come here and criticize the players.

The sad truth is that A. United gave the job to coach the most important SA team to someone who had NEVER coached girls before and maybe never watched a women's game either. The players don't respect him and he can't get across to them. Basically the coaching staff there are spectators.

I'm not saying he's a bad coach, he obviously had his credentials but it's also obvious that he failed with this team. Give it to someone who knows how to work with women!!! Some local coach who knows the players and who will get them to play to their potential!

Ok no one will jump on this forum to say this, but ask the players and even the assistant coaches or ANYONE who is in women's football in this state. They will all tell you that he's not doing a good job and that other women's coaches could do better. He had so much time, you all talk about how serious the WLeague should be and how shiraz SA is, but even any local club would sack a coach who doesn't win in 20 games!!!

Just my opinion, but I know as a fact that most ppl agree. Women's football ppl I mean

[Joe Bloggs]

see this is exactly why they gave him the job, very successful coach,to get away from this mentality, but not giving him the best tools to train them properly, as my previous posts, the players are at SASI, yes training in a program of mediocrity, so Mike & staff get them only once the season finishes late September, do u really think he has time to to get them from U/14 boys level to National League standard, u got to ge kidding, so stop this crap about him not knowing what he's doing. They have had 3 different squads over the 3 years, lost many years of experience with Swaff,Alagich & Blacky, so who next has experience to replace that? Belomenos who supposedly is a Matilda by all the media attention & reports, when in reality is maybe a fringe 30th matilda player at best really having no impact, the other girls still too young but learning.
The syetem is at fault & needs a total re structure as in Perth, but no, clubs believe by winning a 6 team competiion is held in high prestige, you got to be kidding! Surely its time for better coaching at the grassroots & focus on the next pool of talented youngesters, like the boys do with STIC etc, but reality its a 4-5 plan needed.

[Red-4-Life]

see this is exactly why they gave him the job, very successful coach,to get away from this mentality, but not giving him the best tools to train them properly, as my previous posts, the players are at SASI, yes training in a program of mediocrity, so Mike & staff get them only once the season finishes late September, do u really think he has time to to get them from U/14 boys level to National League standard, u got to ge kidding, so stop this crap about him not knowing what he's doing. They have had 3 different squads over the 3 years, lost many years of experience with Swaff,Alagich & Blacky, so who next has experience to replace that? Belomenos who supposedly is a Matilda by all the media attention & reports, when in reality is maybe a fringe 30th matilda player at best really having no impact, the other girls still too young but learning.
The syetem is at fault & needs a total re structure as in Perth, but no, clubs believe by winning a 6 team competiion is held in high prestige, you got to be kidding! Surely its time for better coaching at the grassroots & focus on the next pool of talented youngesters, like the boys do with STIC etc, but reality its a 4-5 plan needed.

[gee_kay]

Just give him the boot

[themagnet]

see this is exactly why they gave him the job, very successful coach,to get away from this mentality, but not giving him the best tools to train them properly, as my previous posts, the players are at SASI, yes training in a program of mediocrity, so Mike & staff get them only once the season finishes late September, do u really think he has time to to get them from U/14 boys level to National League standard, u got to ge kidding, so stop this crap about him not knowing what he's doing. They have had 3 different squads over the 3 years, lost many years of experience with Swaff,Alagich & Blacky, so who next has experience to replace that? Belomenos who supposedly is a Matilda by all the media attention & reports, when in reality is maybe a fringe 30th matilda player at best really having no impact, the other girls still too young but learning.
The syetem is at fault & needs a total re structure as in Perth, but no, clubs believe by winning a 6 team competiion is held in high prestige, you got to be kidding! Surely its time for better coaching at the grassroots & focus on the next pool of talented youngesters, like the boys do with STIC etc, but reality its a 4-5 plan needed.

it's not like it could get any worse Red.
seems like a bit of planning and better preparation would go a long way in helping the Lady Reds be more successful in future years. Gotta start somewhere, so why not get in now with the 13-15 year olds and make sure a program gets put in place that will ensure they're up to W-league standard in 3,4,5 years?

[lollipop]

Why do the young 20's get screwed for 15/16 yr olds everytime! I am so sick of being ppl referring to ppl my age (23) as too old! We have experience, we have talent and we have passion! so bench ur lil teenagers and play the ladies with the smarts and the braun to get the job done!

Heard the coach has no relational skills which is obviously a problem. players dont know why they are on the bench etc. Hears an idea- how bout for once in a coaches life they actually tell the players the truth as to y they are not playing, instead of feeding them bullshit not to hurt their feelings. We are all big girls, we can handle it!

Will say the best coaches I had at state level were Wendy and Lia because they were honest! And what do you know- we won a U17 national championship against alot of those current brisbane roar and sydney fc folk!

[gee_kay]

The guy had success at mens level with an open cheque book and some amazing players. You can see he doesn't have the balls to make tough decisions

[themagnet]

Why do the young 20's get screwed for 15/16 yr olds everytime! I am so sick of being ppl referring to ppl my age (23) as too old! We have experience, we have talent and we have passion! so bench ur lil teenagers and play the ladies with the smarts and the braun to get the job done!

Heard the coach has no relational skills which is obviously a problem. players dont know why they are on the bench etc. Hears an idea- how bout for once in a coaches life they actually tell the players the truth as to y they are not playing, instead of feeding them Barossa Pearl not to hurt their feelings. We are all big girls, we can handle it!

Will say the best coaches I had at state level were Wendy and Lia because they were honest! And what do you know- we won a U17 national championship against alot of those current brisbane roar and sydney fc folk!

ok, they can join in too

[The General]

He has had very ordinary talent to work with which is why more younger girls are now getting the opportunity. This poor talent relates back to the prems and womens football in general in the past where the coaching standard was low, with respect to those who donated their time how many football coaches have been of a good football standard.

The facts are the lady reds are only U14 boys zone team standard.

This is now being addressed with greater emphasis on SASI and younger reds girls. Getting guys like Steve Maxwell to come into womens football will also help the general coaching pool. This is intergenerational and will take time.

Barnett does not need to watch the prems week in week out as the majority of those players are too slow and old. Investment is needed in the need generation.

Your first statement tells you do not have much of an involvement with women's soccer,the rest of your post confirms it.If Lady Reds are only U/14 boys standard, that is not too bad if you consider that the Matildas struggle against NSW U/15 boys in trial games.
You pick the best side,this is not another development squad,this side has some talented players,who are not being guided properly,and not taken seriously ( by their coach )he strikes me as a person you cannot have an open discussion with,because some of the girls may make good points and he will feel threatened by it,rather then respect it and take it on board.

[Joe Bloggs]

Original, get your hand of it seriously, wat you think Barnett couldnt make tough calls at Metro, he had a squad of at least 18-20 players the best in the league but managed them perfectly by his communication skills & directness, you dont keep players at the the club like Karlovic, Brain,Godley, Robbo,Pirone, shall i go on? for 6 six years unless you know what your doing or win trophies & dominate the league, idiot.
With my dealings he is very open to suggestions & ideas for the benefit of the team, do you reckon he likes losing & is doing nothing, he lost 4-5 games in 6 years at Metro, so to lose these games now would be hurting him as much as the players.Maybe his ideas are too advanced for the women's game, from what i see most of them cant strike a ball properly & controlling balls worse, is that his fault, who has coached these players from when they start?
Didnt he keep Belamenos on the bench for 2 weeks - tough call, didnt he drop Quigs for lack of discipline to team rules - tough call, you people need to wake up!
its all the structure, get it right now & the players will be there in 4-5 years.

[Red-4-Life]

Just give him the boot

Mate, for Joey here you might need to say that a bit slower. Dont think they get the picture, let alone watch a game, just make comments based on results posted on the internet.

[gee_kay]

Original, get your hand of it seriously, wat you think Barnett couldnt make tough calls at Metro, he had a squad of at least 18-20 players the best in the league but managed them perfectly by his communication skills & directness, you dont keep players at the the club like Karlovic, Brain,Godley, Robbo,Pirone, shall i go on? for 6 six years unless you know what your doing or win trophies & dominate the league, idiot.
With my dealings he is very open to suggestions & ideas for the benefit of the team, do you reckon he likes losing & is doing nothing, he lost 4-5 games in 6 years at Metro, so to lose these games now would be hurting him as much as the players.Maybe his ideas are too advanced for the women's game, from what i see most of them cant strike a ball properly & controlling balls worse, is that his fault, who has coached these players from when they start?
Didnt he keep Belamenos on the bench for 2 weeks - tough call, didnt he drop Quigs for lack of discipline to team rules - tough call, you people need to wake up!
its all the structure, get it right now & the players will be there in 4-5 years.

Joe let me tell u something chump the team he had a metro coached themselves mate. Mind u he still didn't win as many titles as he should hav based on that squad. He has coached this team for 2 and a bit years and they haven't won a game!! Time for him to make a tough decision and stand down and putbsomeone who knows the womans game in charge