Should we count corners as a tie-breaker?

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Should we count corners as a tie-breaker?

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Paul Gardner suggests in the 50th anniversary October copy of the authoritive London magazine "World Soccer" that, instead of Blatter's suggestion of penalties as a tie-breaker at the 90-minute mark of preliminary round World Cup tournament games, we should count corners.

Blatter is extremely concerned about defensive teams playing for bore-draws in the first rounds, but Gardner says counting corners will reward teams that attack; and there is no need for law changes, and results will be derived from proceedings in the actual game, not tacked on artificially at the end like penalties.I can see Gardner's point, except that some teams may play for 'cheap' corners played for, off an opponent's boots/shins out near the corner flag.

That's why I suggest a further solution - only count corners conceded in the penalty area, which rewards a team blasting away at an opponent's goal. Any thoughts, or no idea(s)?
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Crap idea, will never be approved by I.F.A.B.
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Iniesta wrote:Crap idea, will never be approved by I.F.A.B.
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My gut feeling is you're right Iniesta and themagnet.

In fact Sepp Blatter's daughter Corinne (back in the 90s when she was working for the then head organisation, Soccer Australia), and also the late Johnny Warren said the rest of the World will not comprehend "scoring" with a corner - they want to see the back of the net hit with a 'real' goal, even if it is a penalty at the end of extra time.

Still, as fans we gotta at least debate this latest Blatterism and it's implications...
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Counting of corners was / have been used to determine matches in the past, mind you they were cup games at junior level.

Not as silly as some of you may think, yes we all want more goals scored or only goals to determine a winner of a match and if you have it that way, then we'll have to put up with the dreaded penalty shoot out.
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Penalty shootouts still require players to put the ball in the net, corner counts don't.
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Siberia wrote:
Iniesta wrote:Crap idea
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How about we leave it as it is and everyone else can go watch AFL.
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Iniesta wrote:How about we leave it as it is and everyone else can go watch AFL.
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Siberia wrote:
Iniesta wrote:Crap idea
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Iniesta wrote:How about we leave it as it is and everyone else can go watch AFL.
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[quote="R. King"]Counting of corners was / have been used to determine matches in the past, mind you they were cup games at junior level.

Nah, R. King. Pretty sure it was used at senior level too back in the old days in the Scottish Cup...
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DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB
whats next if corners are equal? throw ins? shots taken? whoevers got the prettiest boots???
load of crap.
why does everything need to be improved, maybe change isnt better.
Some games are boring, some games are exciting, the beauty is in the fact that u dont know whats going to happen.
without boring games an exciting game is no longer exciting, it becomes normal.
without dissapointment, there cant be jubilation.
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Hammer wrote:DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB
whats next if corners are equal? throw ins? shots taken? whoevers got the prettiest boots???
load of crap.
why does everything need to be improved, maybe change isnt better.
Some games are boring, some games are exciting, the beauty is in the fact that u dont know whats going to happen.
without boring games an exciting game is no longer exciting, it becomes normal.
without dissapointment, there cant be jubilation.


what about, prettiest hair-do???
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But Iniesta, you'll find Blatter won't leave it as it is. It's his World Cup, not our's the people's and he's determined to do away with draws in the preliminary rounds..

I reckon he's not thought this one right through. A team could play in 3 exciting draws and lose all 3 (on the contrived tack-on of penalties at the end of 90 minutes) and be eliminated.

What Gardner in "World Soccer" is saying corners are derived from the actual play and you would reward the team that has attacked.

My opinion is still to only count the corners conceded in the penalty area during extra time as a tie-breaker, (sort of using the analogy of the abbreviated tie-breaker in tennis in early sets when it's 6-6).

And Hammer, if corners are level, then still use penalties as the ultimate tie-breaker.

ps, is vertu1 on to something in his earlier post with his 4,2,1,0 points system to motivate teams to attack and not play for engineered bore-draws?
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most stupid thing i ever heard
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Which is the most stupid, Machiavelli?

Sepp Blatter's penalty shoot-outs at the 90 minute mark of preliminary World Cup matches, doing way with draws?

Or Paul Gardner's idea of counting corners if teams are level on goals to reward the attacking team?

Ya gotta at least read Gardner's article in October's issue of "World Soccer".
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Con wrote:Which is the most stupid, Machiavelli?

Sepp Blatter's penalty shoot-outs at the 90 minute mark of preliminary World Cup matches, doing way with draws?

Or Paul Gardner's idea of counting corners if teams are level on goals to reward the attacking team?

Ya gotta at least read Gardner's article in October's issue of "World Soccer".
Or we could just go by which ever team's kit numbers add up to a higher number wins?
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Con wrote:Which is the most stupid, Machiavelli?

Sepp Blatter's penalty shoot-outs at the 90 minute mark of preliminary World Cup matches, doing way with draws?

Or Paul Gardner's idea of counting corners if teams are level on goals to reward the attacking team?

Ya gotta at least read Gardner's article in October's issue of "World Soccer".
i was refering to the corners being counted if its a draw at full time. I don't need to read a stupid article with that as its point...absulute joke.
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Con wrote:Paul Gardner suggests in the 50th anniversary October copy of the authoritive London magazine "World Soccer" that, instead of Blatter's suggestion of penalties as a tie-breaker at the 90-minute mark of preliminary round World Cup tournament games, we should count corners.

Blatter is extremely concerned about defensive teams playing for bore-draws in the first rounds, but Gardner says counting corners will reward teams that attack; and there is no need for law changes, and results will be derived from proceedings in the actual game, not tacked on artificially at the end like penalties.I can see Gardner's point, except that some teams may play for 'cheap' corners played for, off an opponent's boots/shins out near the corner flag.

That's why I suggest a further solution - only count corners conceded in the penalty area, which rewards a team blasting away at an opponent's goal. Any thoughts, or no idea(s)?
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as everyone knows, 3 corners = a penalty to be taken from the half way line against no keeper, opposite foot.
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El Diego wrote:
Hammer wrote:DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB
whats next if corners are equal? throw ins? shots taken? whoevers got the prettiest boots???
load of crap.
why does everything need to be improved, maybe change isnt better.
Some games are boring, some games are exciting, the beauty is in the fact that u dont know whats going to happen.
without boring games an exciting game is no longer exciting, it becomes normal.
without dissapointment, there cant be jubilation.


what about, prettiest hair-do???
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