Coaches for 2011

[GULLY BOYZ]

King Nugget, stick talking about things you know about which is obviously very little.

TTG changed its coach for three consecutive years all with promotion, we changed without promotion but stayed in div 2 (coming 3rd) then changed to LRO and came 3rd and KEPT him a second year and got relegated.

I am not bagging LRO for our relegation - we simply didnt have the players but it goes to show the stability theory you hold dear is not necessarily accurate you numpty. It depends on the club and circumstances.

3 promotions with 3 coaches
the last two times we have kept a coach for 2 years we have been relegated.

you add it up.

Pilots should be astronaut Because your way of thinking is off the planet...
I can't believe what your saying 3 coaches get you promoted & then you piss them off because everytime you've had a coach for 2 years you get religated? Are you fk'n nuts? What about giving one of the coaches who gets you promoted or to a Cup Final what about giving them another year instead of pissing them off?



ONE OF THE BIGGEST JUNIOR CLUBS AROUND...
ONE OF THE BEST CLUB FACITITIES AROUND...
ONE OF THE BIGGEST JOKES GOING AROUND...
YEH YOU GO JOIN STATE LEAGUE YOU'LL FIT RIGHT IN THERE,
CAN'T EVEN RUN A DIV.2 AMATEUR CLUB...
YOU & YOUR CLUB ARE A ABSOLUTE JOKE YOU ADD THAT UP !

p.s DI(k he@d I might actually have picked up a thing or two being Chairman of a SUCCESSFULL Div.1 Club for 7 years...

Nugget I have always had it in the back of my head you are a BIG MOUTH and you have just confirmed it !
Yes mouth off about winning Div1..... great well done go for it you deserve to !
Until you know whats its like to run a club with 550 juniors and 4 senior teams
Have a committee dominated by Junior parents which is great
We dont have a budget each year set a side to pay our senior signings, who knows how much you put aside and I dont really care!
We continue to grow each year with our Juniors and have never dropped in numbers dont know about the 15 sides you have? Dont really care!
TTG must be doing something right to help Juniors grow with our great game and give them the best facilities.
Pilots is right we didnt have the players this year to be competitive this year but things go round in cycles. As you should know !
To say our club is a joke is a disgrace, well, your a disgrace, how about you keep your trap shut and concentrate on YOUR club and leave us to get on with growing the Juniors as does Modbury Vista, be good to see you attend a E & D meeting occasionally too and get involved with the growth of Junior Football. or do you just concentrate on the Seniors?
Enjoy the rest of the year !

[KING NUGGETT]

Perhaps you too should read what I wrote again.

I keep going back to Centrals because they are the most successful Football Club at the moment & if you want success & don't have it look at successful club & copy them like Centrals did. I was lucky enough to spend some time with Chris Grant & ask what the formula to Centrals Success was, he told me they looked at Successful Clubs at the time saw what they were doing & copied them.
Obviously what your club is doing & the formula it has for Senior Club success isn't working so why keep doing it? It may have been a little reactive from Astronauts comments to call your Club a joke & I appoligise for those comments, but come on think about it if something ain't working change it, if it is don't pretty simple really...

[Smashed on Vino]

Perhaps you too should read what I wrote again.

I keep going back to Centrals because they are the most successful Football Club at the moment & if you want success & don't have it look at successful club & copy them like Centrals did. I was lucky enough to spend some time with Chris Grant & ask what the formula to Centrals Success was, he told me they looked at Successful Clubs at the time saw what they were doing & copied them.
Obviously what your club is doing & the formula it has for Senior Club success isn't working so why keep doing it? It may have been a little reactive from Astronauts comments to call your Club a joke & I appoligise for those comments, but come on think about it if something ain't working change it, if it is don't pretty simple really...

Unfortunately I've got to agree with you....But if you remember correctly, Centrals had 3 different coaches in their first 4 years of success!

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But there is a reason why they had 3 different coaches. As the first two went onto bigger and better things

In fact it was Alan Stewert had the develop the system back in 1995 when he sent letters out to all juniors registered in the Central Districts area

[KING NUGGETT]

But there is a reason why they had 3 different coaches. As the first two went onto bigger and better things

In fact it was Alan Stewert had the develop the system back in 1995 when he sent letters out to all juniors registered in the Central Districts area

exactly when you change sometimes it takes years to start getting reward for those changes & Alan Stewert put in place the foundations to Central Districts later success...

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Centrals made their first grand final in 1995 . Not this was a direct reflection on what Alan Stewert had implemented but a total change in culture over the last couple of years prior to that . But a good chairman is surrounded by a good committee in which they share the same goal .

[htfac]

As for advertising for coaches at the Downs. Yes it is written into the constitution. Had alot of issues years ago with coaches being appointed by the outgoing committee only for the new committee to have a different idea. So in effect Motts cannot be officially appointed until the new committee is in place. You can actually partly blame Motts senior for this being in the Downs constitution. You never now the Downs might have Eddie Thomson apply!!!!

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or even " Steady Eddy "

[guti]

As for advertising for coaches at the Downs. Yes it is written into the constitution. Had alot of issues years ago with coaches being appointed by the outgoing committee only for the new committee to have a different idea. So in effect Motts cannot be officially appointed until the new committee is in place. You can actually partly blame Motts senior for this being in the Downs constitution. You never now the Downs might have Eddie Thomson apply!!!!

RIP.

[Mr X]

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Pilots should be astronaut Because your way of thinking is off the planet...
I can't believe what your saying 3 coaches get you promoted & then you piss them off because everytime you've had a coach for 2 years you get religated? Are you fk'n nuts? What about giving one of the coaches who gets you promoted or to a Cup Final what about giving them another year instead of pissing them off?



ONE OF THE BIGGEST JUNIOR CLUBS AROUND...
ONE OF THE BEST CLUB FACITITIES AROUND...
ONE OF THE BIGGEST JOKES GOING AROUND...
YEH YOU GO JOIN STATE LEAGUE YOU'LL FIT RIGHT IN THERE,
CAN'T EVEN RUN A DIV.2 AMATEUR CLUB...
YOU & YOUR CLUB ARE A ABSOLUTE JOKE YOU ADD THAT UP !

p.s DI(k he@d I might actually have picked up a thing or two being Chairman of a SUCCESSFULL Div.1 Club for 7 years... [/quote]


Nugget I have always had it in the back of my head you are a BIG MOUTH and you have just confirmed it !
Yes mouth off about winning Div1..... great well done go for it you deserve to !
Until you know whats its like to run a club with 550 juniors and 4 senior teams
Have a committee dominated by Junior parents which is great
We dont have a budget each year set a side to pay our senior signings, who knows how much you put aside and I dont really care!
We continue to grow each year with our Juniors and have never dropped in numbers dont know about the 15 sides you have? Dont really care!
TTG must be doing something right to help Juniors grow with our great game and give them the best facilities.
Pilots is right we didnt have the players this year to be competitive this year but things go round in cycles. As you should know !
To say our club is a joke is a disgrace, well, your a disgrace, how about you keep your trap shut and concentrate on YOUR club and leave us to get on with growing the Juniors as does Modbury Vista, be good to see you attend a E & D meeting occasionally too and get involved with the growth of Junior Football. or do you just concentrate on the Seniors?
Enjoy the rest of the year ![/quote]

Maybe have some people from the senior side of your club go to the AGM and put there hand up for the committee?

Just a thought?

[KING NUGGETT]

As for advertising for coaches at the Downs. Yes it is written into the constitution. Had alot of issues years ago with coaches being appointed by the outgoing committee only for the new committee to have a different idea. So in effect Motts cannot be officially appointed until the new committee is in place. You can actually partly blame Motts senior for this being in the Downs constitution. You never now the Downs might have Eddie Thomson apply!!!!

Yes but obviously your Club & the people in it knows Motts is the man for the job & would surely give him a commitment before then so you don't lose him & obviously you won't be advertising this year....
IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE...

[Wraith]

What my take on this is;

People should forget about some of the rubbish clauses in the constitution and just apply common sense.

[guti]

What my take on this is;

People should forget about some of the rubbish clauses in the constitution and just apply common sense.

Common sense would be to change the constitution. All officers of incorporated companies have obligations under the Act and there may be repercussions for ignoring the constitution.

[Gabon]

What my take on this is;

People should forget about some of the rubbish clauses in the constitution and just apply common sense.

I agree

As whilst the constitution may be set up to to make it fair process for all club members to abide to, most constitutions are outdated and may need amending.

[Pilots]

King Nuggett

maybe you should re read (if you can)

"I can't believe what your saying 3 coaches get you promoted & then you piss them off because everytime you've had a coach for 2 years you get religated?"

- you probably cant believe it because it is not what I said you numpty

My point was - which obviously you didnt or you have an inability to grasp - was that keeping the same coach doesnt automatically provide success or stability

[swannsong]

You can actually partly blame Motts senior for this being in the Downs constitution.....

Good Ol' Richie Mottram, was a stickler for the constitution.

It would be fitting for Motts to lead the Downs through it's 40th year of Senior football...he lives, breathes and drinks the club.

[KING NUGGETT]

King Nuggett

maybe you should re read (if you can)

"I can't believe what your saying 3 coaches get you promoted & then you piss them off because everytime you've had a coach for 2 years you get religated?"

- you probably cant believe it because it is not what I said you numpty

My point was - which obviously you didnt or you have an inability to grasp - was that keeping the same coach doesnt automatically provide success or stability

And sometimes it does but you wouldn't know because you haven't kept a coach long enough, look at our coach took him 3 years but his won every Trophy available to win plus one & you wouldnt have thought that in his 1st 2 years.

Your right though Astronaut what would I or Parafield Gardens know, 2 coaches & 6 1 Div. Trophies in 10 years, & who's the numpty

[marooned]

Motts has been given the green light for next year. Advertising for a new coach seems like a waste of time when the very best candidate is available and keen to get started. Constitutional or not the decision is a no brainer. 2011 season begins the last game in 2010, to wait till the new committee is appointed in November is detrimental to the clubs ambitions. Players and team management, trial games and other must do things should be organised asap. Constitutional rules are often brought up when someone doesn't get their way and ignored when they do. Onwards and upwards. YOU DOWNS

[swannsong]

Motts has been given the green light for next year. Advertising for a new coach seems like a waste of time when the very best candidate is available and keen to get started. Constitutional or not the decision is a no brainer. 2011 season begins the last game in 2010, to wait till the new committee is appointed in November is detrimental to the clubs ambitions. Players and team management, trial games and other must do things should be organised asap. Constitutional rules are often brought up when someone doesn't get their way and ignored when they do. Onwards and upwards. YOU DOWNS

Lets hope the lads on the park in 2011 for the Downs have the right "constitution" to usurp Parafield Gardens (or any other contenders) for the SAASL Sunday Premier Chanpions trophy.

[guti]

Interesting philosophical discussion follows - why have rules?

[htfac]

As for advertising for coaches at the Downs. Yes it is written into the constitution. Had alot of issues years ago with coaches being appointed by the outgoing committee only for the new committee to have a different idea. So in effect Motts cannot be officially appointed until the new committee is in place. You can actually partly blame Motts senior for this being in the Downs constitution. You never now the Downs might have Eddie Thomson apply!!!!

Yes but obviously your Club & the people in it knows Motts is the man for the job & would surely give him a commitment before then so you don't lose him & obviously you won't be advertising this year....
IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE...

No its not rocket science. Very observant. Im just telling you the rules of a club. Whether the committee wish to follow them is another thing. As you know, having so much experience running a successful amateur league club, most committees probably have no idea about their constitution. But if they did, they probably will do what suits them and is best for the club. But then again what do I know??

[marooned]

Our Constitution is kept in a small locked box in a wee dark corner that small children fear. And only the older and wiser men before my time know the combination. I basically try do what I believe is what is best for the club, yes the old wise men sometimes frown and yes it does rub people up the wrong way, but that the way I do things and if anyone wants to put their hand up to do it any different then be my guest. If decisions were forever left solely to the discretion of committee's then we would be having this discussion via pony express rather than the net.

Anyhoo aint this about 2011 coaches ???? I've shown you mine now show me yours.

[swannsong]

Anyhoo aint this about 2011 coaches ???? I've shown you mine now show me yours.

[marooned]

Hey thats the old Craigmore High School bus. I knew it would be found one day. It got nicked when we played an inter school carnival at the West High back in 1976. And by golly that looks like your old backyard in the Downs Swansong.

[Mr X]

Heard Aaron Westervelt for Para Hills West

[swannsong]

Hey thats the old Craigmore High School bus. I knew it would be found one day. It got nicked when we played an inter school carnival at the West High back in 1976. And by golly that looks like your old backyard in the Downs Swansong.

Reminds me of Rich Naberhoods joke....."How do you know you're in 'Lizbeff....when you cut the lawn you find a car.." or something along those lines.

[marooned]

My fav Richy Naberhood joke was when he played hide n seek with his dad, his dad was a great player, they could'nt find him for 20 years.

[haywood djablowme]

Heard Aaron Westervelt for Para Hills West

[swannsong]

Heard Aaron Westervelt for Para Hills West

Don't listen to those voices in your head !

[KING NUGGETT]

When I became Chairman at Gardens I made it my business to read & understand our Clubs constitution & TRY to adhere to it at all times. When Barrie was appointed the role as senior coach he wanted more than one a year term, however our constitution didn't allow that because all positions bar the Chairmans 2 year term are vacated at the end of each year like most Clubs. Our Clubs constitution was last upgraded in 1984 & being a incorporated Club is a massive legal job to change, one I never took on. I did however give Barrie the undertaking of mine & our Clubs full & total support with honest feed back at all times. We never advertised in the 8 years of Barries coaching career with the Gardens & at the end of every season we sat down & reviewed the year that was. Throughout Barries rein as coach i never doubted once his ability to coach or his DESIRE to succeed & always believed he was the right man for the job, so why advertise. The last year Barrie coached our Club he told me he felt he had done all he could with the playing group & that he felt worn out. We spoke about the future & during our conversation I asked if he thought his son Steve would be interested after all he was our 2002 League Championship Captain he had fantastic knowledge & understanding of football & already had total RESPECT thoughout the Club the main ingredient I believe for a good coach. Steve was later interviewed for the position by myself Vice President, & the Treasurer at the time Lefty & was appointed Senior Coach. I didn't stand for re-election that year, 10 years on the committee was enough for me & we already had a succession plan in place with Lefty who took over as Chairman. Steves 1st 2 years coaching was very tough with the injury card playing a massive role 13 1st team starters out in the 2 years. The club however backed Steve and gave him a 3rd term a decision that payed off in Aces. I commend the decision of the Club & those who made it to re-appoint him a decission which was very hard one given the results fighting religation both years but winning the Challenge Cup. If our constitution was adhered to by the letter of the law we would have never had kept Barrie for those 8 years or got the reward we did this year for all the years & effort we put in.

2002 Div.1 LEAGUE CHAMPIONS
2003 CUP FINALISTS
2006 Div.1 RUNNERS UP
2008 CHICHANOWSI SHIELD
2008 CUP WINNERS
2010 HISTORY MAKERS
2010 LEAGUE CHAMPIONS
2010 CUP WINNERS
2010 CHAMPIONS OF CHAMPIONS