FFA Futsal Nationals

[campbo]

They havent changed anything so im guessing that FFA dont think they are in the wrong groups.

Do SA have a big break now over Xmas and New Year or are they training in between?

[campbo]

Gee this topic has gone quiet! How is the preperation for the teams coming along only a week out from the tournament?

Teams had any games yet?

[GK1]

Found out last night Queensland have pulled out of the open men's comp which changes our fixtures a bit, we will be playing ACT Colts in the first game instead of NSW Lightning.

[campbo]

Found out last night Queensland have pulled out of the open men's comp which changes our fixtures a bit, we will be playing ACT Colts in the first game instead of NSW Lightning.

Was there any reason given for them pulling out? Also is it true that SA mens only have 9 players?

[GK1]

Found out last night Queensland have pulled out of the open men's comp which changes our fixtures a bit, we will be playing ACT Colts in the first game instead of NSW Lightning.

Was there any reason given for them pulling out? Also is it true that SA mens only have 9 players?

No there is 11 of us from memory. and not sure of the reason they pulled just found out last night

[pulse]

Football Federation SA and Futsal SA are pleased to announce that South Australia will be represented by 10 teams to compete in the 31st FFA National Futsal Championships which will be held in Canberra from January 11th to 15th 2010.

The FFA National Futsal Championships are by far the biggest National football tournament in Australia, attracting up to 2000 competitors from Australian States, Territories, and several Nations within the Oceania Region.

The 10 team contingent will consist of an Open Men’s team, six boys teams & three girls teams.

For up to date information on the Championships including fixtures and results check out www.futsalnationals.com.au


Congratulations and good luck to the following players who have been selected to represent Football Federation SA and Futsal SA.

Under 13 Girls
Madeline Capoccia
Jess Alisauskas
Bethany Koutsouridas
Amelia Pacillo
Tessa Calabria
Christine D'Onofrio
Renae Pantelis
Alexia Scalzi
Mirella Scalzi
Tony Scalzi (Coach)
Dee Nottingham (Team Manager)


Under 15 Girls
Tayla Stabile
Erin Moller
Jo-Ann Easson
Jasmine Smith
Monique Varricchio
Stephanie Librandi
Katherine-Anne Sortini
Emi Soulio
Gabby Parente
Paul Sortini (Coach)
Amy Pascoe (Team Manager)


Youth Girls
Laura Corbo
Alyssa Leigh
Domenique Caraccia
Sylvanna Viscione
Connie Ricci
Victoria Akkermans
Daniella DeBono
Rebecca Sullivan
Georgia Kriaris
Romano Rossi (Coach)
Marie Spagnoletti (Team Manager)


Under 12 Red Boys
Joel Cantone
Liam Miller
David Signore
Nathan Reade
Carlo Armiento
Alex Solari
Alex Pontecarvo
Ali Hadi
Aidan Masone
Greg Kalinovic (Coach)
Enrico LoSapio (Team Manager)


Under 12 Gold Boys
Daniel Margush
Joseph Pipicella
Jaden Kirk
Julian Titaro
Lachlan Le
Christian Verbi
Nicholas Menechella
Anthony DePalma
Nicholas Polli
Riccardo Cardinale (Coach)
Lenny Cali (Team Manager)


Under 13 Boys
Bradley Corbo
Peter Atsikbasis
Jesse Francesca
Alexander Jakob
Shuto Nakamura
Julian Cali
Steven Savino
Luke Palmese
David Carosi
Rino Rossi (Coach)
Pele Matto (Team Manager)


Under 14 Boys
Sam Crugnale
Stefan Mazzeo
Mitchell Coull
Antoni Trimboli
Lachlan Duffy
Callum Scott-Mills
Christian Bosi
Santino Calvaresi
Anthony Ture
John Fusco (coach)
Giancarlo Zumbo (team manager)


Under 15 Boys
James Karolewicz
Dean Sperandio
Tony Sasso
Brandon Reeves
Belal Khelwarty
James Parker
David Villani
Alex Tran
Alan Karbowiak
Stephen Payne
Stuart Parker (Coach)
John Greco (Team Manager)


Under 16 Boys
Tim Ramsay
Jordan Rose
Yamin Jamal
James Klappers
Alex Sortini
Brandon Pirone
Hayden Bryan
Carmine Napolitano
Dylan Hayes
Jeff McCormack (Coach)
Nick Tallarida (Team Manager)


Open Men
Jake LaScala
Ross Osmon
Anthony Solagna
Jonathan Corbo
Andrew Fowler-Walker
Jarrod Noel
Chris Casiero
Anthony Capaldi
Jai Pullinen
Tony LaScala (Coach)
Frank Pasquini (Assistant Coach)
Rob Pepicelli (Team Manager)

[foggia]

The open mens team will never be a team like the 1997-98 team ,they had quality players back then?

[Barney Rubble]

under 16's won the first game against Western NSW 6-2,

QLD beat the Vic's x lot's


Mens lost 3-1 to ACT Colts

[Barney Rubble]

not been too good a day today

Still all teams in with a chance of making the semi's at least,

results are posted fairly quickly at www.futsalnationals.com.au


Come on SA

[Željko Jurin]

I think it's time for FFSA and the people running futsal in SA, to start taking this great sport seriously, and to introduce futsal ALL year round for juniors.

Where, how, who, when, is not up to me or others to talk about, but if Futsal SA people are going to take $1400+ per player to send SA teams to the nationals, then they have a duty to provide a proper competition for the kids to be able to improve and develop, with more then just 10-12 games (C'town comp, where majority of the players were picked from) in a year, and then pick a state team from that.

As you can see by the following stats, SA is WAY behind the other states, who majority have futsal comps run all year round

All boys
u/16........ 7th from 9 teams
u/15........ 6th from 7 teams
u/14........ 5th from 9 teams
u/13........ 7th from 8 teams
u/12........ 5th from 6 teams
u/12........ 5th from 7 teams

Congrats to all the boys that went over and tried their hardest, but you can only do so much with the tools and hence, skills you are provided with.

[friendly]

yes you have a good point
BUT
i went over to canberra for the first time expecting a very high level of futsal
all i seen was other states playing futsal at a good standard
and south australia playing outdoor soccer indoors
they are two completely diferent games, while our coaches (not all) coach outdoor soccer on an indoor court , you cant compete.
other states closed down very quick, there sharp feet leave us for dead, they pass and sprint , we pass and move or stand.
half a chance they shoot we pass. we train in long distance running , they do shuttles. they play with defenders , we play with overlapping fullbacks. they are a team, we are a bunch of soccer players and i can go on.
the players done extremely well with no futsal coaching

[Barney Rubble]

you fly back this arvo then ?

[friendly]

no flew back fri went over to look at the standard
i would like to apply to take a team next year and try a diferent aproach cause thus far it isnt working
not 1 boys team made the semis
i think 2 girls teams made the semis
all the squads fly home today i think

[admin]

no flew back fri went over to look at the standard
i would like to apply to take a team next year and try a diferent aproach cause thus far it isnt working
not 1 boys team made the semis
i think 2 girls teams made the semis
all the squads fly home today i think

I heard the U14 boys team did very well and were unfortunate not to make the semi-finals - missed out on count-back. They would have made the finals but for being down to only 5 fit players for the third game in a day against one of the teams and conceded a goal in the last minutes of the game to go down 3-2. I also heard that both of the U14 goalkeepers scored in the tournament - squad size is an important factor if you play 3 games a day and try to maintain a high intensity game.

Well done to all the boys and girls that participated in the tournament.

[Bresciano]

Agree totally Friendly. My son has been playing Futsal for years and from my observations there are very few junior SA players that know how to play the game. Players holding onto the ball too long, no one touch passing, poor defensive positioning, lack of running to create space when attacking, always doing the obvious which is anticipated by the opposition rather than taking the cleverer option. Frustrating to watch. My observations are that too many players play for themselves and not for the team plus lack the basic skills too trap a ball and pass accurately. There are good SA Futsal players who are in the SASI squad and hence weren't at the Nationals but kids need to be taught how to play this game. As you stated its completely different to outdoor soccer. My son uses Futsal to sharpen up the reflexes which its great for.

[Harry Harpic]

no flew back fri went over to look at the standard
i would like to apply to take a team next year and try a diferent aproach cause thus far it isnt working
not 1 boys team made the semis
i think 2 girls teams made the semis
all the squads fly home today i think

thought Barney asked that on Friday :?

[The Boss]

I think it's time for FFSA and the people running futsal in SA, to start taking this great sport seriously, and to introduce futsal ALL year round for juniors.

Where, how, who, when, is not up to me or others to talk about, but if Futsal SA people are going to take $1400+ per player to send SA teams to the nationals, then they have a duty to provide a proper competition for the kids to be able to improve and develop, with more then just 10-12 games (C'town comp, where majority of the players were picked from) in a year, and then pick a state team from that.

As you can see by the following stats, SA is WAY behind the other states, who majority have futsal comps run all year round

All boys
u/16........ 7th from 9 teams
u/15........ 6th from 7 teams
u/14........ 5th from 9 teams
u/13........ 7th from 8 teams
u/12........ 5th from 6 teams
u/12........ 5th from 7 teams

Congrats to all the boys that went over and tried their hardest, but you can only do so much with the tools and hence, skills you are provided with.

Exactly what I was going to say ZJ,

Let's just not make up the numbers. If we are going over there to compete, let's be competitive and professional.
Another thing that killed us is only having nine players per team. If you take two keepers and have an injury or two, you are already on the back foot. Some of the other states had twelve or thirteen players in their squad, hence the luxury of rotating players regularly and having fresh legs.
Also, how can it be a true "Nationals" with five teams represented from NSW and one from ACT. Six local teams and only a couple of other states represented is a bit one-sided.
There is nothing wrong with our talent or quality, but like you said we are up against sides that play together all year round. We can't expect to compete well if our teams are thrown together a few months before the championships.

[friendly]

please admin answer this question

under 14s were short on players due to injuries
friends of mine had a son picked in the under 15s squad that is eligible for under 14s so he must good
only to sit on bench everygame and play aprox 20min in 6 games for the whole tournament
why didnt they recognise that and push him down?
obviously there is no communication between coaches or teams to help each other
they all want success themselves but people dont realise that you need help for success thats why it is a team sport

[friendly]

sorry thought he posted sat

[Squizzy]

Let's just not make up the numbers. If we are going over there to compete, let's be competitive and professional.
Another thing that killed us is only having nine players per team. If you take two keepers and have an injury or two, you are already on the back foot. Some of the other states had twelve or thirteen players in their squad, hence the luxury of rotating players regularly and having fresh legs.
Also, how can it be a true "Nationals" with five teams represented from NSW and one from ACT. Six local teams and only a couple of other states represented is a bit one-sided.
There is nothing wrong with our talent or quality, but like you said we are up against sides that play together all year round. We can't expect to compete well if our teams are thrown together a few months before the championships.

Taking 2 GK's is a Coach's choice (or has been in the past).

That aside, perhaps the numbers per team also represent how many people were available at selections and/or able to pay the fees.

Speaking from experience; all too often a Coach asks people to come out to trial or once picked, gets a verbal commitment from a player/parent and then they pull out after acknowledging that they cannot afford it (cost or time) after knowing all the details.

The process of "throwing" together a teams in a few months is exactly what the other teams/states do. And they don't play all year around, either. Something that surprised me.

That said, we do need to do things differently. For example, psychologically, we are worlds appart from the more successful NSW, ACT and even Vic teams.

The Futsal SA people need help to progress further. It's no good lumping it in their lap and saying fix it - which is all too easy to do (and I've been guilty of it in the past). FFSA need to allow more funds and resources. There needs to be more venues. There needs to be more acceptance from the outdoor clubs (it helps them too). Plus more.

And yes, I've generalized the above. It is only my opinion. I have been wrong before and will be again.

Interesting too, is that there are not many (if any) positive experiences listed in the above posts. And going away to a competition like this, there are plenty. It's too easy to list the bad, I guess.

PS: not trying to attack you Boss, it was just the last one I read before replying.

[strawney]

Hey : ZJ, Friendly & Bresciano.

Was this your first, second etc. visit to the Nationals ?

I`m sure Futsal SA would appreciate feed back from the Nationals in a constructive way.
( not petty ones ).

It`s easy to pick faults !

So why not come up with a plan to fix the faults , When posting ?

Don`t just say, Make it happen !

Put your application in coaching etc. forward to the Futsal SA Website.

Don`t forget to add your experience at the Futsal Nationals or Local SA Competitions, when applying.
IE : Parent, Player, Trainer , Committe, Coach , Manager or Specator.

[friendly]

good point

but wasnt bein petty
i am thinkin of applying for a coaching role as obviously there isnt enough people putting there hand up to do the job
i do believe our boys are good enough to do better but they require coaching

[Željko Jurin]

Hey : ZJ, Friendly & Bresciano.

Was this your first, second etc. visit to the Nationals ?

I`m sure Futsal SA would appreciate feed back from the Nationals in a constructive way.
( not petty ones ).

It`s easy to pick faults !

So why not come up with a plan to fix the faults , When posting ?

Don`t just say, Make it happen !

Put your application in coaching etc. forward to the Futsal SA Website.

Don`t forget to add your experience at the Futsal Nationals or Local SA Competitions, when applying.
IE : Parent, Player, Trainer , Committe, Coach , Manager or Specator.

Sorry, but didnt realise I was being "petty"

Also, I have never been to the Nationals, why do you ask ?? Did I bag anything or anyone that went or organised it ?

As a parent and a current junior coach, and this being a forum, I thought we all have an opportunity to state our opinions, and hopefully mine was constructive, and I dont think I bagged anyone actually

As far as "picking faults", and "a plan of fixing the faults", I didnt state any faults, I merely said that kids in SA need to play MORE futsal to be competitive, and the people who run futsal in SA, and have been doing it for a while now, need to consider, and I think have an obligation (seeing they are the governing body in SA), of bringing in more games/longer comps, for these kids to be able to improve and therefore be more competitive at The Nationals.

PS......and yes, I have tried to find venues, and have told a venue to please bring in a junior winter comp, and that I would guarantee 2 teams from my outdoor team, and atleast 5 teams from my club

PPS.....how many senior comps are there in SA, doesnt Magill have 2 or 3 different ones during the year? Yet only 1 Senior SA team got sent to the Nationals, why not run some Junior comps at Magill instead ??

[Željko Jurin]

The process of "throwing" together a teams in a few months is exactly what the other teams/states do. And they don't play all year around, either. Something that surprised me.

That said, we do need to do things differently. For example, psychologically, we are worlds appart from the more successful NSW, ACT and even Vic teams.

The Futsal SA people need help to progress further. It's no good lumping it in their lap and saying fix it - which is all too easy to do (and I've been guilty of it in the past). FFSA need to allow more funds and resources. There needs to be more venues. There needs to be more acceptance from the outdoor clubs (it helps them too). Plus more.

Sorry to say, but yes they do, there are junior competitions in both NSW and Victoria, all year round, I didnt even check any other states

And I agree, the 2 competitions that are run by the Futsal SA people, are GREAT comps and very well run, but there needs to be more, this is the only way for these kids to improve to be competitive against the rest of Oz

There are alot of schools out there with gyms, especially primary schools, which I would say have free nights during the week somewhere

If Spiro could find venues, that means they are out there.

[lb]

Zeljko, whoever is feeding you your info is wrong. I can guarantee that the elite players who attend nationals would do a similar amount of games to the SA kids. The NSW Premier League has 14 games and Super League 12 games and once those comps finish 95% of kids won't touch a futsal ball until the next comp starts the following September/October. The best kids will play futsal from September to February and then outdoor takes over. Their state teams apparently have about 8 or so training sessions together and thats it. The top Victorian kids concentrate solely on outdoor during winter as well. ACT doesn't have any junior winter comps and their teams were only picked at the start of December, again they play about a dozen games in their league. The other states quantity of games/training may be similar but the quality is so much higher and most importantly they are taught futsal specific skills and tactics unlike the SA kids.

[Squizzy]

Zeljko; admittedly, I was not a part of the SA set up this year but the last 2 years, when talking to other NSW, QLD and Vic Coaches, they advised that they do not play all year round. More like the time frames that we run in (perhaps a bit longer but not much). Admittedly, we were in the U16's and Youth. Perhaps, they do in the younger age groups (although that was not my impression).

However, if they were spinning me a story, I'd be happy to concede.

But getting back to it... Wouldn't it be great if say, CCSC, Raiders, Adelaide City, etc and so forth played against each other in a competition. Hmmm.... What the future could hold?

[Squizzy]

Zeljko, whoever is feeding you your info is wrong. I can guarantee that the elite players who attend nationals would do a similar amount of games to the SA kids. The NSW Premier League has 14 games and Super League 12 games and once those comps finish 95% of kids won't touch a futsal ball until the next comp starts the following September/October. The best kids will play futsal from September to February and then outdoor takes over. Their state teams apparently have about 8 or so training sessions together and thats it. The top Victorian kids concentrate solely on outdoor during winter as well. ACT doesn't have any junior winter comps and their teams were only picked at the start of December, again they play about a dozen games in their league. The other states quantity of games/training may be similar but the quality is so much higher and most importantly they are taught futsal specific skills and tactics unlike the SA kids.

Ya beat me to it.

[Željko Jurin]

Zeljko, whoever is feeding you your info is wrong. I can guarantee that the elite players who attend nationals would do a similar amount of games to the SA kids. The NSW Premier League has 14 games and Super League 12 games and once those comps finish 95% of kids won't touch a futsal ball until the next comp starts the following September/October. The best kids will play futsal from September to February and then outdoor takes over. Their state teams apparently have about 8 or so training sessions together and thats it. The top Victorian kids concentrate solely on outdoor during winter as well. ACT doesn't have any junior winter comps and their teams were only picked at the start of December, again they play about a dozen games in their league. The other states quantity of games/training may be similar but the quality is so much higher and most importantly they are taught futsal specific skills and tactics unlike the SA kids.

All I know is, there are defiantely junior futsal leagues in NSW and Victoria that are played all year round, now how many of the actual players that are selected play in them, no one will really know, but atleast the options are there for kids to choose and improve in futsal

Ok, and if the kids in NSW and Vic teams do play the same amount of games as SA kids throughout the year and their teams get "knocked up" just before the nationals like SA, then questions should be asked why are we so far behind then ???

If our outdoor u/14 and u/15 are always competitive at the outdoor nationals, meaning we have the player talent and coaches available compared to the other states, it cant be that the other states have fantastic futsal coaches available to them compared to us, can it ??

[campbo]

Zeljko, whoever is feeding you your info is wrong. I can guarantee that the elite players who attend nationals would do a similar amount of games to the SA kids. The NSW Premier League has 14 games and Super League 12 games and once those comps finish 95% of kids won't touch a futsal ball until the next comp starts the following September/October. The best kids will play futsal from September to February and then outdoor takes over. Their state teams apparently have about 8 or so training sessions together and thats it. The top Victorian kids concentrate solely on outdoor during winter as well. ACT doesn't have any junior winter comps and their teams were only picked at the start of December, again they play about a dozen games in their league. The other states quantity of games/training may be similar but the quality is so much higher and most importantly they are taught futsal specific skills and tactics unlike the SA kids.

All I know is, there are defiantely junior futsal leagues in NSW and Victoria that are played all year round, now how many of the actual players that are selected play in them, no one will really know, but atleast the options are there for kids to choose and improve in futsal

Ok, and if the kids in NSW and Vic teams do play the same amount of games as SA kids throughout the year and their teams get "knocked up" just before the nationals like SA, then questions should be asked why are we so far behind then ???

If our outdoor u/14 and u/15 are always competitive at the outdoor nationals, meaning we have the player talent and coaches available compared to the other states, it cant be that the other states have fantastic futsal coaches available to them compared to us, can it ??

I coached a NSW team that won the tournament in Canberra last week and I can tell you that none of my boys play futsal all year round. We have a premier and super league competition and they all play the 14 rounds in that competition. I selected my side on the 16th November, started training on the 30th November and had the 6th, 13th and 20th December as well as 9th and 10th January. Don't think that our sides are together all year round, it all depends on what you do in your limited time available. My training is more focused on tactics etc than playing games to get used to each other. This can happen as the tournament progresses.

[Barney Rubble]

Thanks Campbo,

that will give us over here an insight of what is possible with the right preparation.
SA is passionate about Soccer & Futsal and the kids love it.

Without any malice, just a question, how do you think the competition would go if held in WA, SA or QLD ?

I ask because NSW have a very strong representation and without them one would ask if the 'Nationals' would be possible.
Someone posted this question earlier, i think.

Last year i spoke with a WA coach and his frustration was the same as ours, excellent players there but could not afford the trip over.

Well done on your achievements, may see you next year