Is Ngog going to get suspended for diving?????

[mushrow]

gabon you are as one eyed as ur bro im affraid jokes [/quote]

Gabon is not 'One Eyed.' Both of his eyes only see Red!

[Gardensgoon]

David Ngog
Last season, excluding the Carling Cup, he played 452 minutes. In that time he scored three and was involved in three more, for a Goal Involvement rating of one every 75.33 minutes, and a goal every 150 minutes – still better than one every other game.

This season, taking into account all competitions (I’ve included the Carling Cup so far, as both Leeds and Arsenal away – tonight – are suitably tough fixtures), he has scored three, but has no other Goal Involvement of any kind.

His three goals have come in 208 minutes of football (excluding injury time). That is a goal every 69 minutes.


Overall, since arriving he has played 691 minutes of football, excluding injury time.

He has been involved in a goal every 77 minutes, and he has scored one every 115 minutes (or just under a goal for every “full game” playing time of 90 minutes).

Or six goals in roughly seven full games.

This rate has been inflated by lots of late appearances in ‘dead’ games, although it can sometimes be hard to get into the pace of a game as a sub, and also difficult if your own team has taken its foot off the pedal while cruising.

While it’s incredibly unlikely that he could maintain such a world-class strike rate if starting matches regularly – certainly at this early stage of his career, and while still relatively new to English football – it shows that Benítez is right to have included him on the bench on numerous occasions. It also shows that rather than “David Who?”, people should see him as a good member of the squad, with potential to get much better, and a veritable bargain at just £1.5m (for a man currently starring for the France U21 team).

Also, anyone who has seen N’Gog in the reserves in the past seven or eight months will attest to him being a class above anyone else in there, notching almost whenever he plays, and showing great all-round ability. He has at least been the equal of Nemeth at that level, and has added pace and height – although the Hungarian is a classier finisher.

(Then again, Fowler was a classier finisher than Shearer, but the latter’s pace and power meant he could be even more prolific. Finishing is important, but quicker/stronger players can often get more chances. Hopefully Nemeth will return a more hardened predator after a year in European top division, to give Benítez a headache.)

In an ideal world, I’m sure Benítez would rather call upon established, full internationals from the bench, but neither Keane nor Crouch were happy doing so, and the Reds’ relatively limited wage bill dictates that such players cannot be induced to sit on the sidelines. Hence N’Gog, and the talented but erratic and moody Voronin.

The criticism of N’Gog was that he hadn’t scored many important or match-winning goals, but his great strike against a physically tough Leeds United team at Elland Road and now his game-killing goal against United (when he had a lot of time to think, and therefore panic), are now starting to be answered.

As such, 20-year-olds like Insua and N’Gog are an important way forward for Liverpool. Both have plenty of scope for improvement, but both are heading in the right direction.

And while I don’t have the figures, I expect that a certain M.Owen of Manchester has not matched N’Gog’s strike rate (per-minute) for the season so far.

Owen has scored 3 goals in 454 minutes of football, that’s 1 every 151 minutes. Perhaps even more frightening for Manchester United fans is £32m man Dimitar Berbatov’s 3 goals in 941 minutes or 1 goal every 5 hours or so![/quote]
a good read! his talent is unquestionable, but talent is only halve the battle these days. has a bright future i believe. but doesnt quiet strike fear into opponents when in the starting 11 just yet.

[yogi]

Eduardo the diving cheating fa ggot on the other hand was running straight at Boruc and when Boruc came sliding out on the LHS, parallel to Eduardo, he did a swan dive, so obvious.

you are a

Lick my balls,,,,,,,,,,,

[yogi]

he was running at boruc - mmm i wonder why, maybe that's where the ball was

he was cleared of the diving charge - why is that?? because his right ankle was clipped by boruc

you have got to be joking. absolutely no contact on eduardo

Exactly totsreds08, Eduardo dribbled the ball towards Boruc and when Boruc spread himself he flicked the ball passed him then did a double pike flip in the air and fell to the ground. Boruc didn't touch him and Eduardo will always be tarnished as a diving cheat.

[Gabon]

its funny that u include carlin cup this season but exclude it last season .. why dont u just count those match where he get involve of the goal only

Overall, since arriving he has played 691 minutes of football, excluding injury time.

[don poosti]

Eduardo the diving cheating fa ggot on the other hand was running straight at Boruc and when Boruc came sliding out on the LHS, parallel to Eduardo, he did a swan dive, so obvious.

you are a

Lick my balls,,,,,,,,,,,

only if you win the champions league

[yogi]

1967..............

[don poosti]

only if you win the champions league

1967..............

i said 'win', not 'have won'

[simoo3]

he was running at boruc - mmm i wonder why, maybe that's where the ball was

he was cleared of the diving charge - why is that?? because his right ankle was clipped by boruc

you have got to be joking. absolutely no contact on eduardo

Exactly totsreds08, Eduardo dribbled the ball towards Boruc and when Boruc spread himself he flicked the ball passed him then did a double pike flip in the air and fell to the ground. Boruc didn't touch him and Eduardo will always be tarnished as a diving cheat.

your just angry cos it was against your own team. you had no chance anyway you ended up losing like 6-1 on aggregate

[simoo3]

when they wer losing with torres in they complained they missed gerrard. now gerrard is in and they still cant win they say its cos we dont have torres.
make up your mindssssssssssssss

you are such a dumb shiraz.

as smart as every other person on here

[don poosti]

Exactly totsreds08, Eduardo dribbled the ball towards Boruc and when Boruc spread himself he flicked the ball passed him then did a double pike flip in the air and fell to the ground. Boruc didn't touch him and Eduardo will always be tarnished as a diving cheat.

your just angry cos it was against your own team. you had no chance anyway you ended up losing like 6-1 on aggregate

too true

[BTAC]

The way I see it, is if he kept his feet on the ground , he would of got cleaned up anyway.The Birmingham player came sliding in, feet first at a "T" junction impact, meaning Ngog was running 90degrees to the Birmingham player. he maybe could of stayed on his feet, but at the end of the day the ref is also at fault or not.
Food for thought..................

Eduardo the diving cheating fa ggot on the other hand was running straight at Boruc and when Boruc came sliding out on the LHS, parallel to Eduardo, he did a swan dive, so obvious.

Have read the thoughts and this forum and this is not the only place who have come up with absolute nonsense and drivel with regards to this supposed 'dive'. (Yogi's the only one who has any idea )

What does it matter that no contact was made, the intent was there, carsley committed himself and did not win the ball and obstructed Ngog in going any further (with his legs), as Yogi said if he didn't avoid the challenge we may be talking about a serious injury for Ngog (aren't we asking for Refs to protect the ball players ).

Anywhere else on the park it's a free kick however because it's a penalty and more importantly because it's Liverpool the media and any non supporting LFC fans (bar Dan Agger , it is NOT a dive) enjoy putting the boot in.

Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Boruc make contact with the ball unlike Carsley

Sorry mate, but in my book he could have avoided that challenge without throwing himself to the floor like he did. I rate him as a great talent, but in my mind thats a dive every day of the week.