Torres & Gerrard

[Facts and Stats]

I have taken this off a Liverpool forum, but whatever team you support you can't deny this is pretty decent!

Torres has scored 58 goals in 92 Liverpool games since his debut in August 2007, while Gerrard has 123 in 492.

But the true mark of their quality and chemistry comes from the 77 games the pair have played together, when they have plundered 86 goals between them - Gerrard with 39 and Torres 47.


86 goals in 77 games.

[haywood djablowme]

Torres & Gerrard = LiverPoo

[ronaldo07]

arent that what we've been discussed since last season ??
Without Torres and gerrard liverpool is nothing

[Facts and Stats]

And haven't we discussed you are a clown, for more than a season
Didn't we also discuss Liverpool beat your team without the 2 of them last season
Didn't we also discuss Ronaldo and Rooney scored a higher percentage of UTDs goals than Gerrard and Torres did for Liverpool.

What this shows, is that the 2 of them in the same side is awesome, especially as one doesn't always play as a forward.

[Jimbob]

2 man team, especially now Carragher is passed it and Alonso has gone.

[Chade]

What were the results last year, though? Didn't Liverpool beat Man Utd and Real Madrid without both/one of them?

2 man team, especially now Carragher is passed it and Alonso has gone.

+1
Unless Benayoun keeps it up.

[Litmanen]

Is this not typical of alot of teams though?

Rooney Ronaldo
Drogba Lampard
Torres Gerrard


I think you'll find if you take the main striker and main playmaker out of any team the stats would be similar.

[Facts and Stats]

2 man team, especially now Carragher is passed it and Alonso has gone.

And last year we were 'supposedly' a 2 man team, you said we had Gerrard, Torres, Alonso, Carragher, how many does that equal

Teams Evolve, I believe we have an Italian International about to start his career, a Danish center Back is now free from injury too.

We are not the best, but we are no weker than last season IMO.

Reina, Johnson, Gerrard, Torres.....4 of the best players in the EPL. Reina is (arguably) the best keeper, but certainly one of the best. Johnson is the best RB, Gerrard one of the best in the world, Torres the world's best forward. The future is OK.

[Outlaw 2.0]

Is this not typical of alot of teams though?

Rooney Ronaldo
Drogba Lampard
Torres Gerrard


I think you'll find if you take the main striker and main playmaker out of any team the stats would be similar.

Not for Arsenal the year after Henry and Viera Left

[Facts and Stats]

Is this not typical of alot of teams though?

Rooney Ronaldo
Drogba Lampard
Torres Gerrard


I think you'll find if you take the main striker and main playmaker out of any team the stats would be similar.

Yes, all teams have 2 or 3 main players. But don't let logic and facts spoil me making UTD fans look like with their garbage on this one

[Jimbob]

What were the results last year, though? Didn't Liverpool beat Man Utd and Real Madrid without both/one of them?

2 man team, especially now Carragher is passed it and Alonso has gone.

+1
Unless Benayoun keeps it up.

How many trophies did they win last season?

[Nice One Cyril]

I think you'll find if you take the main striker and main playmaker out of any team the stats would be similar.

Very true. The thing with Liverpool though as against Chelsea or Manu is the depth of their squad. The rest of their players are distinctly average.

[Jimbob]

Is this not typical of alot of teams though?

Rooney Ronaldo
Drogba Lampard
Torres Gerrard


I think you'll find if you take the main striker and main playmaker out of any team the stats would be similar.

Yes, all teams have 2 or 3 main players. But don't let logic and facts spoil me making UTD fans look like with their garbage on this one

You're still not getting it are you? All teams do have 2 or 3 main players but champions have a decent squad to back them up. That's why your trophy cabinet has been looking a bit barren in recent years

[Facts and Stats]

I get it quite a lot thanks

What I also get is that some of you UTD fans are so one eyed you wont admit that Torres and Gerrard have formed an amazing pairing.

If you won't admit to that, then you are no real fans of the game.

See my posts on all teams, I give credit to others where its due, or I don't comment and let you gloat about something.

This thread has nothing to do with who is the best, Liverpool were the probably the best team last year, but we dropped stupid points, so we didn't win the league, Liverpool fans accept that. The best teams don't ALWAYS win, 2005 CL, we weren't the best in Europe, it's another example.

[ronaldo07]

never doubt the amazing link up between Torres and Gerrard !!Always rate it ..

lol @ ppl said we r 2 man teams .. now ronaldo has left and we are still top of the table lol !!! BOOOOO !!

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[Chade]

What were the results last year, though? Didn't Liverpool beat Man Utd and Real Madrid without both/one of them?

How many trophies did they win last season?

I didn't say anything about trophies...

It simply shows that Liverpool are capable without them - as any of the top 4 really need to be without their top 2 players.

[Jimbob]

What were the results last year, though? Didn't Liverpool beat Man Utd and Real Madrid without both/one of them?

How many trophies did they win last season?

I didn't say anything about trophies...

It simply shows that Liverpool are capable without them - as any of the top 4 really need to be without their top 2 players.

Burnley have beaten us this season already, what is your point?

[Le King]

What were the results last year, though? Didn't Liverpool beat Man Utd and Real Madrid without both/one of them?

How many trophies did they win last season?

I didn't say anything about trophies...

It simply shows that Liverpool are capable without them - as any of the top 4 really need to be without their top 2 players.

yeh capable without em against top teams not bottom teams

always rated torres and gerrard

jst a shame torres didnt come 2 united, coulda won some trophies

[Chade]

It simply shows that Liverpool are capable without them - as any of the top 4 really need to be without their top 2 players.

Burnley have beaten us this season already, what is your point?

Liverpool's squad is good enough in terms of talent, but not consistency. Geez, do I need to put it on a golden platter? And that Burnley have beaten "you" already is exactly my point - with Ronaldo, these things didn't happen last season (often?).

yeh capable without em against top teams not bottom teams

Lose your logic drive somewhere?

[ronaldo07]

It simply shows that Liverpool are capable without them - as any of the top 4 really need to be without their top 2 players.

Burnley have beaten us this season already, what is your point?

Liverpool's squad is good enough in terms of talent, but not consistency. Geez, do I need to put it on a golden platter? And that Burnley have beaten "you" already is exactly my point - with Ronaldo, these things didn't happen last season (often?).

yeh capable without em against top teams not bottom teams

Lose your logic drive somewhere?

lol ... we lost quite some points against lower position club when ronaldo is around ..
plus, this thing didnt happen often this season too .. just one match

[Nice One Cyril]

Liverpool's squad is good enough in terms of talent, .....

You sure?

Apart from Gerrard, Torres and probably Reina and possibly Benayoun and Kuyt, I can't think of another player who'd get into a top 4 EPL side.

Enlighten me. I might have missed one possible but that's about it.

[Facts and Stats]

Agger, Johnson to start.

Most teams have players who are of similar quality. From Utd I would only have Evra, Vidic and Rooney in my team.

Also Liverpool didn't come close to winning the league if they weren't good all round the pitch, it wasn't luck that they came second From all accounts Aquilani is good too, but having not seen him I can't comment.

[Le King]

Liverpool's squad is good enough in terms of talent, .....

You sure?

Apart from Gerrard, Torres and probably Reina and possibly Benayoun and Kuyt, I can't think of another player who'd get into a top 4 EPL side.

Enlighten me. I might have missed one possible but that's about it.

gerrard n torres will make any otha top 4 side
the rest clearly wouldnt

[Facts and Stats]

Please explain how Reina, Johnson, Kuyt, Yossi, Agger CLEARLY wouldn't get into another top 4 team. You should actually leave this thread before we all laugh at your one eyed stupidity

[Le King]

Please explain how Reina, Johnson, Kuyt, Yossi, Agger CLEARLY wouldn't get into another top 4 team. You should actually leave this thread before we all laugh at your one eyed stupidity

u seriously believe that those players u named will walk into arsenal, chelseas or man united starting 11???
maybe johnson will come closest

[Facts and Stats]

Read what I said, did i Say they would walk in easily?

Whereas you (I assume you are on the tuprs) said

gerrard n torres will make any otha top 4 side
the rest clearly wouldnt

[Jimbob]

I have taken this off a Liverpool forum, but whatever team you support you can't deny this is pretty decent!

Torres has scored 58 goals in 92 Liverpool games since his debut in August 2007, while Gerrard has 123 in 492.

But the true mark of their quality and chemistry comes from the 77 games the pair have played together, when they have plundered 86 goals between them - Gerrard with 39 and Torres 47.


86 goals in 77 games.

By the way, I agree, it is a very good scoring record

[El Capitano]

Does anyone besides a Liverpoo supporter actually rate Agger?

[Facts and Stats]

The whole of Denmark who voted him player of the year.

And BTW some of your 'fans'

http://community.manutd.com/forums/p/33292/300200.aspx

HTH.