E&D clubs

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2008 team numbers per club U6 U7 U8 U9 U10 U11 U12 U13 U14 U15 COLTS TOTAL
TEA TREE GULLY 5 5 5 4 4 3 3 3 1 2 3 38 every age group
MODBURY VISTA 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 1 1 33 every age group
GAWLER 2 3 3 4 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 23 every age group
MUNNO PARA 3 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 17 every age group except 15s
PARA HILLS 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 17 every age group except colts
ELIZABETH DOWNS 2 4 1 3 2 2 1 1 1 17 every age group except colts & 15s
INGLE FARM 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 15 every age group
PARA HILLS WEST 1 2 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 15 every age group except 14s
PARAFIELD GARDENS 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 15 every age group except 14 & 15s
ST AUGUSTINES 2 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 14 every age group except 14 & colts
ANGLE VALE 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 13 every age group except colts
SALISBURY UNITED 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 11 every age group except 14,15 & colts
SALISBURY EAST 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 10 6,7,8,9,10,11,13 only
BARROSSA UTD 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,colts
VALLEY VIEW 3 1 2 1 1 1 9 6,7,8,,10,12
PARA HILLS EAST 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7 6,8,9,12,13,15,colts
SALISBURY VILLA 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7 7,8,9,10,11,12,colts
ONE TREE HILL 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7 6,7,8,9,10,12,15
ELIZABETH VALE 1 1 1 1 1 1 6 6,7,8,9,10,12,15,colts
VIRGINIA 1 1 1 1 1 1 6 6,7,8,9,10,12
EASTERN PARK 1 2 1 4 8,14 colts
ELIZABETH GROVE 1 1 1 1 4 6,7,10,12

TOTAL 37 39 36 35 33 25 30 23 13 12 14 297

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I hope you get the jist of this - but I think you can see what Im trying to show.
Interesting the low amounts of teams in the Eliz./club area (except eliz downs)
also the decrease in teams in the older age groups - players going to federation clubs?
some of the divisions in the older age groups only have 6 teams which is low.
remember the 6,7,8 have only 8 players on the park for them teams
also I didnt realise munno para had so many teams and arent they going to federation?

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[got balls]

Hey thanks Reds great post

It's nice to see E&D more on this forum. The older age drop off would for sure be kids joining FFSA for harder competition.... don't shot me down in flames the track suit , bag and ball also get's them in....only joking.

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and they love feeding that huge imaginary cash cow that they all get to feed sooner or later - only joking also

[Rodney]

Hey thanks Reds great post

It's nice to see E&D more on this forum. The older age drop off would for sure be kids joining FFSA for harder competition.... don't shot me down in flames the track suit , bag and ball also get's them in....only joking.

umm the best of the best appear to be moving on it would seem as they get older?

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Very interesting Reds

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Very interesting Reds

why thankyou - I do my best to inform the masses

[Hollygirl]

Hey thanks Reds great post

It's nice to see E&D more on this forum. The older age drop off would for sure be kids joining FFSA for harder competition.... don't shot me down in flames the track suit , bag and ball also get's them in....only joking.

It's also a case of the older age groups dropping out with Federation as well...there are more pressures on the boys time...girls, school work etc

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Yep you are on to somthing I agree the power of the meow can have a big influence on the boys.

[The Boss]

E&D is definitely a stepping stone for the better older kids to move up to Fed.

Nothing wrong with that, providing they don't leave too early, as E&D is comparable and very strong up to around U13. Many kids/parents make the mistake of going too early because they think Fed is better and are disappointed with their standard and administration.

I also agree that the 14 year olds onwards start struggling with juggling school work, part time jobs and dare we say, the opposite sex.

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Boss yes you are right the modified rules E&D runs is a great system even though it does need a little adjusting. I have kids in both camps one I placed in Fed at the age you state the other is at E&D, the biggest concern where you place your kids comes down to the coaching. I believe you have to ensure you get a good coach to further develop your child. I have seen good and bad coaches in both Fed and E&D.

[Rodney]

yes, E&D modified rules do need adjusting hence why I am taking my son out of E&D to be a part of SSG's next year.

I know half his current team are going down the same path.

[povman_2009]

Thx for the table, I just finished my own last night, bad timing...

Interesting comments about SSG, some of the head honchos in E&D are holding out and expecting a massive backlash from the introduction of SSG into the Fed system, they think the players / parents will flock over to the E&D so they can play real games... ( i have heard this opinion expressed by more than one person)

Personally I think for the development of the children SSG is the way to go, and it is interesting that I have now heard two specific cases of parents moving to SSG clubs...

We certainly live in interesting times.

[Rodney]

absolutely!

time will tell how this all goes and you would hope the avenue that best helps the kids develope and enjoy the game the most is utilised the most

[The Boss]

yes, E&D modified rules do need adjusting hence why I am taking my son out of E&D to be a part of SSG's next year.

I know half his current team are going down the same path.

I wouldn't rush off yet to part with your $400 for 2 x 10 minute halves on a Saturday.

E&D will be making some changes to modified rules for next year.

I also believe that E&D will benefit more from the introduction of SSG than FFSA. Many fed parents and even coaches have indicated that they will not be part of SSG when it is introduced. And yes, there are probably quite a few that will go the other way too.

[Rodney]

Quote: Re The Boss - I wouldn't rush off yet to part with your $400 for 2 x 10 minute halves on a Saturday.

You obviously haven't done your homework "Boss" as the club we are going to will not be charging anywhere near $400. Try one quarter of that is closer to the mark.

SSG times for 2009 are: Under 6 will play: is 2 X 15 minute halves; Under 7/8's will play 2 X 20 minute halves; Under 9's will play 2 X 20 minute halves.

The Under 7's will actually get more game time compared to current E&D modified rules.

[povman_2009]

I have heard the same TB, I wonder if any of them have asked the kids ...

Plus i think you will find that the fees for SSG players will be less than the current setup , that is part of the whole setup.

[Rodney]

Forgot to mention that Gala Days will be occuring on a regular basis. We will all know more after the FFSA meets with the clubs regarding the roll out of SSG's for season 2009 at the end of August.

[johnydep]

yes, E&D modified rules do need adjusting hence why I am taking my son out of E&D to be a part of SSG's next year.

I know half his current team are going down the same path.

I wouldn't rush off yet to part with your $400 for 2 x 10 minute halves on a Saturday.

Please check the facts before making comments.

Discussions I've been involved with have mentioned costs starting from $80, some people are even trying to get sponsors to cover the cost.

Gala days are the place to get more info, check out the FFSA site - http://www.ffsa.com.au/default.asp

[The Boss]

Please check the facts before making comments.

Discussions I've been involved with have mentioned costs starting from $80, some people are even trying to get sponsors to cover the cost.

Gala days are the place to get more info, check out the FFSA site - http://www.ffsa.com.au/default.asp

JD, I have been to a couple of official SSG sessions held by FFSA and I do know what I am talking about. I hope that they keep the costs down, especially for the little ones.

At the moment, parents are paying up to $500 a season to play Under 11. Are you saying this will change under the SSG concept, which will go through to Under 12?

[Rodney]

JD, I have been to a couple of official SSG sessions held by FFSA and I do know what I am talking about. I

TB you claim you know what you are talking about! How can you? If you couldn't even get the game duration times right. Its published in the SSG pamphlet also available on the FFSA site.

[The Boss]

JD, I have been to a couple of official SSG sessions held by FFSA and I do know what I am talking about. I

TB you claim you know what you are talking about! How can you? If you couldn't even get the game duration times right. Its published in the SSG pamphlet also available on the FFSA site.

So sorry, Rodney. I apologise my mistake.

Just pointing out fees have to be looked at to get bang for your bucks.

[Rodney]

no Worries Boss

Cost is always an issue but the clubs taking on SSG are well aware that they must keep their costs down.

[lefty]

2008 team numbers per club U6 U7 U8 U9 U10 U11 U12 U13 U14 U15 COLTS TOTAL
TEA TREE GULLY 5 5 5 4 4 3 3 3 1 2 3 38 every age group
MODBURY VISTA 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 1 1 33 every age group
GAWLER 2 3 3 4 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 23 every age group
MUNNO PARA 3 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 17 every age group except 15s
PARA HILLS 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 17 every age group except colts
ELIZABETH DOWNS 2 4 1 3 2 2 1 1 1 17 every age group except colts & 15s
INGLE FARM 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 15 every age group
PARA HILLS WEST 1 2 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 15 every age group except 14s
PARAFIELD GARDENS 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 15 every age group except 14 & 15s
ST AUGUSTINES 2 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 14 every age group except 14 & colts
ANGLE VALE 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 13 every age group except colts
SALISBURY UNITED 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 11 every age group except 14,15 & colts
SALISBURY EAST 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 10 6,7,8,9,10,11,13 only
BARROSSA UTD 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,colts
VALLEY VIEW 3 1 2 1 1 1 9 6,7,8,,10,12
PARA HILLS EAST 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7 6,8,9,12,13,15,colts
SALISBURY VILLA 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7 7,8,9,10,11,12,colts
ONE TREE HILL 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7 6,7,8,9,10,12,15
ELIZABETH VALE 1 1 1 1 1 1 6 6,7,8,9,10,12,15,colts
VIRGINIA 1 1 1 1 1 1 6 6,7,8,9,10,12
EASTERN PARK 1 2 1 4 8,14 colts
ELIZABETH GROVE 1 1 1 1 4 6,7,10,12

TOTAL 37 39 36 35 33 25 30 23 13 12 14 297

Last count I think E&D has about 4200 kids registered

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doing rough nos you would think its around the 4 mark + or -

interesting to see Gawler and MP so high - it shows the growth out north - next teams will be having to hire buses to go to certain games - only joking but who knows maybe one day?

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A little surprising with a few clubs really. I thought the downs was a bit bigger and the Grove, very interesting.

Should TTG and Mod Vista, be in fed, Gawler is and once apon a time didn't Munno Para had teams in Fed?