Shame Shame Shame - WTF is going on in Womens soccer

[SAD GAL]

There's a fine line (actually a thick one) between fierce competiveness and thuggery.

I have NO affiltiation with city or metro so my comments are fair and quitable. To read in today's paper a short story on what ahppened over the weekenbd between these two teams (thugs) is an insult to those who play fair. These two clubs have been fierce rivals however, the difference between teams that go hard is that these two are not known for professional courtesy or respect for the opposition.

Seeing players hack each otehr (as I have seen this year) is DISGUSTING. Players that repsort to scratching, punching, crude tackling (considered by team mates as fair and awesome) belies tahte fact that they HAVE NO SKILL OR ABILITIES. None whatsoever. Some temas I've observed are full of hacks (young and old) that make up the majority in that teaam. MAybe a couple of players can play. The otehrs have no ability and are just plain snipers (maybe unintentional).

Seeing girls with serious injuries is apalling. How can either city or metro walk away and take the high ground? Many other teams in all divisions can cite similar thuggery.

Footballnews needs to update its spiel on womens soccer from fastest growing womens sport to sport not known for skill or ability and is in decline.

Get your S H I T together FFSA and penalise poor sportmanship and thuggery. Especially where there is a history. Poisitive stories need to make the paper. Not thios kind of stuff. I'm sure there are a few girls on either teams (encouaged by the minority) that they should get even and are proud of their team/player/club actions. Its called Football and not Thugball.

[nathanburns15]

Didn't fancy using the topic already made for this?

[SAD GAL]

Far broader comments.

[magicfootball1]

There's a fine line (actually a thick one) between fierce competiveness and thuggery.

I have NO affiltiation with city or metro so my comments are fair and quitable. To read in today's paper a short story on what ahppened over the weekenbd between these two teams (thugs) is an insult to those who play fair. These two clubs have been fierce rivals however, the difference between teams that go hard is that these two are not known for professional courtesy or respect for the opposition.

Seeing players hack each otehr (as I have seen this year) is DISGUSTING. Players that repsort to scratching, punching, crude tackling (considered by team mates as fair and awesome) belies tahte fact that they HAVE NO SKILL OR ABILITIES. None whatsoever. Some temas I've observed are full of hacks (young and old) that make up the majority in that teaam. MAybe a couple of players can play. The otehrs have no ability and are just plain snipers (maybe unintentional).

Seeing girls with serious injuries is apalling. How can either city or metro walk away and take the high ground? Many other teams in all divisions can cite similar thuggery.

Footballnews needs to update its spiel on womens soccer from fastest growing womens sport to sport not known for skill or ability and is in decline.

Get your S H I T together FFSA and penalise poor sportmanship and thuggery. Especially where there is a history. Poisitive stories need to make the paper. Not thios kind of stuff. I'm sure there are a few girls on either teams (encouaged by the minority) that they should get even and are proud of their team/player/club actions. Its called Football and not Thugball.

Agreed 100% SAD GAL: referees not following through with laws of the game, its ok its girls ? NOT good enough , now you have this, im surprised it hasnt happened earlier. don't be surprised to see other clubs start the same tactics, after all that's what wins games, not playing good football at all. Sick of watching a game with poor spectators and ruthless tactics to achieve a win, then cry to referees when something comes back their way. last game for me, nothing will get done, just punish city for what Metro caused, should also investigate tackle on Scalzi, dirty tactics and get rewarded. Equality? huh , seems equality for some not for the general 95%

SAD GAL you have some great points, "maybe" when the ffsa fix this you can change to glad girl?

[Left Wing Back]

very much agree, both teams have an interesting approach. I teach my kids no opposition then there is no competition, so respect.

To be a prems club your were meant to have a perimeter fence, a basic start and you would consider a basic for player safety at that level as well as a race to and from the field. There is no excuse if you don't have one you can rent fields that have one.

overlooking the basics of safety has been the biggest issue as well. If a player had been injured by a fan would FFSA be responsible for not providing appropriate venue for that type of clash?.

[neits/burgo/shadow]

very much agree, both teams have an interesting approach. I teach my kids no opposition then there is no competition, so respect.

To be a prems club your were meant to have a perimeter fence, a basic start and you would consider a basic for player safety at that level as well as a race to and from the field. There is no excuse if you don't have one you can rent fields that have one.

overlooking the basics of safety has been the biggest issue as well. If a player had been injured by a fan would FFSA be responsible for not providing appropriate venue for that type of clash?.

Seriously? It's the FFSA fault when spectators can't control themselves? Pretty sure a fence can be jumped over. If someone is angry enough, they will climb over it....

Individuals need to be accountable for their own actions.

[SAD GAL]

Thnaks for the workds of support. I'm a neutral observer and publicity like what has been around this week is not what the game needs. Too many hard working and dedicated players who want to play and enjoy the compettive nature of the game. Unfortunately, what I have seen aroudn the traps this year has consoliated my opinion that the age gap and capabilities between players at all levels is far to great. There are too many teams and te talent pool is thin. Thin to the point wheer any one who has a passing interest (or can be encouraged to join) ends up getting a spot. And in most times has little or no appreciation and skills to play the game. Hence why some teams have (possibly in the lower divs) hack players who arer encouraged by team mates and coaches toi go out and be a pest and with no intention of ghetting the ball and learning what this game is about. That's why we get tp the stage where dubious tactics to eliminate a player are employed.

As I said too little talent spread to thin. Junior development hasn't started to product the players to move into the senior ranks and that's where teh problem lays for this game.

[United We Stand]

There's a fine line (actually a thick one) between fierce competiveness and thuggery.

I have NO affiltiation with city or metro so my comments are fair and quitable. To read in today's paper a short story on what ahppened over the weekenbd between these two teams (thugs) is an insult to those who play fair. These two clubs have been fierce rivals however, the difference between teams that go hard is that these two are not known for professional courtesy or respect for the opposition.

Seeing players hack each otehr (as I have seen this year) is DISGUSTING. Players that repsort to scratching, punching, crude tackling (considered by team mates as fair and awesome) belies tahte fact that they HAVE NO SKILL OR ABILITIES. None whatsoever. Some temas I've observed are full of hacks (young and old) that make up the majority in that teaam. MAybe a couple of players can play. The otehrs have no ability and are just plain snipers (maybe unintentional).

Seeing girls with serious injuries is apalling. How can either city or metro walk away and take the high ground? Many other teams in all divisions can cite similar thuggery.

Footballnews needs to update its spiel on womens soccer from fastest growing womens sport to sport not known for skill or ability and is in decline.

Get your S H I T together FFSA and penalise poor sportmanship and thuggery. Especially where there is a history. Poisitive stories need to make the paper. Not thios kind of stuff. I'm sure there are a few girls on either teams (encouaged by the minority) that they should get even and are proud of their team/player/club actions. Its called Football and not Thugball.

Sad Gal, I agree with what you are saying and it totally supports and relates to what I have been saying about the inability of referees to protect players from over physical and illegal tactics. Be clear,however, that the incident did not involve an over physical tackle during the course of normal play. The Metro girl kicked a girl lying on the ground as a retaliatory action after not being able to dispossess her seconds earlier. The ball was out of play.

You have lumped City in with Metro when you talk about over physical tactics. I don't know if you have watched City at all this season,but they are known for trying to play good football. It is a very young and inexperienced team and have not resorted to these tactics. As another FN contributor wrote, Metro outmuscled City last Sunday.

Apart from that point, I totally support what you are saying. It is sad that this sort of thing has hit the papers. The women's game hardly gets any media attention but it doesn't need this sort of negative publicity. Yes FFSA, get your act together on this!

[scipio africanus]

There's a fine line (actually a thick one) between fierce competiveness and thuggery.

I have NO affiltiation with city or metro so my comments are fair and quitable. To read in today's paper a short story on what ahppened over the weekenbd between these two teams (thugs) is an insult to those who play fair. These two clubs have been fierce rivals however, the difference between teams that go hard is that these two are not known for professional courtesy or respect for the opposition.

Seeing players hack each otehr (as I have seen this year) is DISGUSTING. Players that repsort to scratching, punching, crude tackling (considered by team mates as fair and awesome) belies tahte fact that they HAVE NO SKILL OR ABILITIES. None whatsoever. Some temas I've observed are full of hacks (young and old) that make up the majority in that teaam. MAybe a couple of players can play. The otehrs have no ability and are just plain snipers (maybe unintentional).

Seeing girls with serious injuries is apalling. How can either city or metro walk away and take the high ground? Many other teams in all divisions can cite similar thuggery.

Footballnews needs to update its spiel on womens soccer from fastest growing womens sport to sport not known for skill or ability and is in decline.

Get your S H I T together FFSA and penalise poor sportmanship and thuggery. Especially where there is a history. Poisitive stories need to make the paper. Not thios kind of stuff. I'm sure there are a few girls on either teams (encouaged by the minority) that they should get even and are proud of their team/player/club actions. Its called Football and not Thugball.

Sad Gal, I agree with what you are saying and it totally supports and relates to what I have been saying about the inability of referees to protect players from over physical and illegal tactics. Be clear,however, that the incident did not involve an over physical tackle during the course of normal play. The Metro girl kicked a girl lying on the ground as a retaliatory action after not being able to dispossess her seconds earlier. The ball was out of play.

You have lumped City in with Metro when you talk about over physical tactics. I don't know if you have watched City at all this season,but they are known for trying to play good football. It is a very young and inexperienced team and have not resorted to these tactics. As another FN contributor wrote, Metro outmuscled City last Sunday.

Apart from that point, I totally support what you are saying. It is sad that this sort of thing has hit the papers. The women's game hardly gets any media attention but it doesn't need this sort of negative publicity. Yes FFSA, get your act together on this!

Didn't you just finish writing (with words to the effect) in another thread, that bar 'the (alleged) kicking of the girl on the ground', ... Metro's physicality wasn't as pronounced in the game??

Yet now your getting upset with SAD GAL because he/she has 'lumped city with metro .. over physical tactics', when you, by your own admission, stated that bar one incident, the game was played within the rules????

I didn't realise that perhaps being physically stronger, more experienced is now somehow against the laws of the game.

For someone who is a 'neutral' you are doing quite a job arguing one side of the story

Reality is, if a spectator had not run onto the field of play and 'remonstrated' (that's being very kind from what I've been told) with a player, this game would not have been abandoned.

[scipio africanus]

very much agree, both teams have an interesting approach. I teach my kids no opposition then there is no competition, so respect.

To be a prems club your were meant to have a perimeter fence, a basic start and you would consider a basic for player safety at that level as well as a race to and from the field. There is no excuse if you don't have one you can rent fields that have one.

overlooking the basics of safety has been the biggest issue as well. If a player had been injured by a fan would FFSA be responsible for not providing appropriate venue for that type of clash?.

Seriously? It's the FFSA fault when spectators can't control themselves? Pretty sure a fence can be jumped over. If someone is angry enough, they will climb over it....

Individuals need to be accountable for their own actions.

x2

Well said.

[SAD GAL]

Well said and points taken UWS.

Metro (irrespective of what level or what comp the girls play in) ALWAYS ends up being a game shroud in controversy. There is a a line (not a fine one either) between skilful play and taking CHEAP pot shots at players. Basically sniper action to nullify a player doesn't rate in my book. In fact theer's no skil in collecting a player. If as I read the AC player was on the ground, the player who laid the kick is lucky she made it off the ground. Just rememeber, its a gutless act and jys because its on ta field of play doesn't give you protection.

Sadly its not a thing the FFSA can deal with. And neither will MUFC deal with it beause its an action that is supported and applauded. Good and exciting paly is one of skill and not thuggery.

Time to take a good look at those who practice thuggery and sniping and time to send them to the permament sin bin. The game doesn't need them.

[Journeyman]

Now, I am completely unbiased and have absolutely no affiliation to either Metro or Adelaide City and was not present at the game on the weekend...however, I have seen both sides play more than twice this year.

From my observations, I've found Metro to be a very good side both from a physical aspect and from the skills aspect. If what i'm reading is true, then if Metro follow true to form from their in-house experiences this year, they will take appropriate action towards their player. It would appear well out of character from what ive personally witnessed as an opponent this year.

Adelaide City are as one forum observer has already stated a young side with alot of potential. I've also found them to be not as physical as other teams in the comp, but well organised and skillful. I'm not sure what their red card was for, but for a side that had an almost blemish free record this season it does appear out of character.

No one can condone or account for this particular spectators behavior though. In the heat of battle, when the season is seemingly slipping from your grasp, there can be no excuse for any spectator to enter the field to remonstrate with players or officials. One again, im sure City will take all and appropriate action. UWS, regardless of what you saw from the Metro player behind the play, there is no excuse what so ever to enter the field of play. Blaming the official for the perceived lack of control of the game is no excuse im afraid.

I'll be there this weekend, looking forward to watching the replay, but i suspect it wont be anywhere near as controversial as the game we missed last Sunday.

'edit'...forgot to add, this is the first time ive ever agreed with SADGIRL.

[SAD GAL]

Thanks journeyman.

Both clubs are respected members of the league and its time everyone across the board try to focus on sportsmanship, respect of teh opposition and to promote the game in a positive way. Its the best game by far and if there are players that are thugs let them go to rugby or get anger management. The next inflicted could be towards you and that's not what anyone wants to see.

[United We Stand]

Scipio, I explained that Metro were not as physical as they have been in the past.They were still physical and still outmuscled the City girls. I will be totally honest,however and say that Metro played more good football than they usually do.You didn't understand that I had previously written that a certain Metro girl who was on a yellow committed an offence that should have seen a second yellow and red being flashed. There was also a questionable challenge on the City captain which was also unpunished. Both of those incidents were examples of referees NOT protecting the players and,in the final analysis, proved to be "turning points" in terms of how they influenced the result. They were just two of the overly physical challenges that were happening during the game.

You have misinterpreted my post. I agree with Sad Gal as the thuggery is something that is happening in general and not just this game in question. I stand by what I wrote. The City side do NOT employ these physical tactics. They try to play a skilful brand of football.

[Fitball]

It's not really fair to just single out the women's league though.. This season it's happened on a weekly basis in the men's league.. Take a trip down south to watch the cove.

So here's just a can of worms.. Do you think the coaches should take a bigger stand? Most coaches I know are very one dementional and don't really care about what's happening outside of their teams performance but if they repremamnded their stars (God forbid) as an example and said "if you don't lead the way with good behaviour in my team you don't play here"could it be a start?

You will get bad spectators at all sports.. Massive fine for the clubs in question and leave it at that.

[pvfc]

Most coaches I know are very one dementional

"dementional"? - are they demented because of the s h # t they have to put up with?

[Fitball]

Most coaches I know are very one dementional

"dementional"? - are they demented because of the s h # t they have to put up with?

One dimensional .. And yes! Quite possibly

[SAD GAL]

Game came and went.

[Leppskiii]

Its been about 3 maybe more years since I've been here and look who's still spending way too much time on here.....

[SAD GAL]

Have been away for a while. You will note nothing's changed.