SOCCEROOS v Japan

[Bomber]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

You were on the money then spoiled everything with the last bit. They took far too long with ALL their free kicks outside the box so the ref basically said enough's enough. Time was up (and even a bit over) and can only continue if its a penalty (refer laws of the game).

[ozzie owl]

Great effort by the Aussies sadly the pitch and the refereeing were poor.

[scar]

Carl Valeri for me is proving 2b disappointing & not good enough.

[Knight15]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

You were on the money then spoiled everything with the last bit. They took far too long with ALL their free kicks outside the box so the ref basically said enough's enough. Time was up (and even a bit over) and can only continue if its a penalty (refer laws of the game).

Sure, just very unusual for a referee to blow full time like that, it might be in the laws of the game yada yada yada, but rarely happens like that

[Bomber]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

You were on the money then spoiled everything with the last bit. They took far too long with ALL their free kicks outside the box so the ref basically said enough's enough. Time was up (and even a bit over) and can only continue if its a penalty (refer laws of the game).

Sure, just very unusual for a referee to blow full time like that, it might be in the laws of the game yada yada yada, but rarely happens like that

I for one was glad the ref actually did what he did then. They were annoying when they seemed to take forever to take their free kicks outside the box earlier on. Came back to bite them!
Having said that, if it were Australia with the free kick, would he have made it out the stadium alive?

[Reds11]

Enjoyed the game

[Steve#4]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

Please explain why that was not a penalty?????

[MG&Son]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

Please explain why that was not a penalty?????

If anything the japan player held up brosque so that he didnt fall over. Brosque was the one backing his weight into the player. I wouldve been less suprised if the free kick went the other way.

[Steve#4]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

[BAGGIO 15]

Carney can't be used any longer as he is not an International left back. He is always found out against Japan.
Nice jockying on Honda for the goal.

[Porky]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

Please explain why that was not a penalty?????

If anything the japan player held up brosque so that he didnt fall over. Brosque was the one backing his weight into the player. I wouldve been less suprised if the free kick went the other way.

since when were you allowed to "hold a player up"? lmao...clear penalty...soft yes.

[MG&Son]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

Watch the replay of the foul again from different angles. Brosque backed into and fell into him.

[Steve#4]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

Watch the replay of the foul again from different angles. Brosque backed into and fell into him.

As a defender I agree.......But Brosque was aided by the chap that wanted to cuddle rather than defend......Penalty no doubt.

[MG&Son]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

Watch the replay of the foul again from different angles. Brosque backed into and fell into him.

As a defender I agree.......But Brosque was aided by the chap that wanted to cuddle rather than defend......Penalty no doubt.

Wasn't even a foul

[Steve#4]

Wasn't even a foul

sorry, I mistook you for having an idea about the rules.....If you can honestly look at the replay and see nothing there I wonder how you stay on the pitch on weekends.....

[MG&Son]

Wasn't even a foul

sorry, I mistook you for having an idea about the rules.....If you can honestly look at the replay and see nothing there I wonder how you stay on the pitch on weekends.....

you obviously don't know me.

The jap player didn't pull him. He had his arms out but barely touched him until brosque, by his own doing pushed back and fell into him. Agree to disagree.

[MG&Son]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/bo ... l=football

watch this link, video of the foul and tell me im wrong.

[Steve#4]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/bo ... l=football

watch this link, video of the foul and tell me im wrong.

There is no doubt he was falling that way but the defender still had his arms around him.......I agree you don't
get much softer but still by the laws a penalty.

[Knight15]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

I love the whole 'laws of the game' reasoning

If the 'laws of the game' were used consistently then there would be more stopping and starting than netball, fact is holding, pushing, pulling happens on every corner, free kick etc the one that lead to Australia's penalty was very soft

[MG&Son]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

I love the whole 'laws of the game' reasoning

If the 'laws of the game' were used consistently then there would be more stopping and starting than netball, fact is holding, pushing, pulling happens on every corner, free kick etc the one that lead to Australia's penalty was very soft

[Bomber]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

I love the whole 'laws of the game' reasoning

If the 'laws of the game' were used consistently then there would be more stopping and starting than netball, fact is holding, pushing, pulling happens on every corner, free kick etc the one that lead to Australia's penalty was very soft

No, if it were policed as such, then maybe players would stop the ugly scragging and shirt pulling etc etc that happens on every corner.......hmmmmm

[muts]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

You were on the money then spoiled everything with the last bit. They took far too long with ALL their free kicks outside the box so the ref basically said enough's enough. Time was up (and even a bit over) and can only continue if its a penalty (refer laws of the game).

"Allowance is made in either period for all time lost through..... wasting time"

[Bomber]

There were at least 4 big decisions the ref got wrong

1) Milligan send off
2) Australia penalty
3) Straight after the penalty same player knocked ball away with hand - free kick no booking?
4) Japan send off

Oh then the whole free kick thing at the end

You were on the money then spoiled everything with the last bit. They took far too long with ALL their free kicks outside the box so the ref basically said enough's enough. Time was up (and even a bit over) and can only continue if its a penalty (refer laws of the game).

"Allowance is made in either period for all time lost through..... wasting time"

yeah............and?

[ozzie owl]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

I love the whole 'laws of the game' reasoning

If the 'laws of the game' were used consistently then there would be more stopping and starting than netball, fact is holding, pushing, pulling happens on every corner, free kick etc the one that lead to Australia's penalty was very soft

No, if it were policed as such, then maybe players would stop the ugly scragging and shirt pulling etc etc that happens on every corner.......hmmmmm

I would love to see the ugly scragging and shirt pulling wiped out of the game.

[Con M]

Its a shame the game wasn't played in Melbourne 40,000 is an ok crowd but would have got 70,000 plus in Melbourne

In a oval stadium? No thanks!

Agree, MG & Son.

But maybe if they had held it in the reconfigurable-to-a-rectangle Olympic (ANZ) stadium in Sydney, I still reckon they might have got close to 80,000 with great close-in atmosphere. Let's face it Japan was always going to be our blockbuster in this group, not the likes of Jordan or Oman. That's why I was surprised they took it to Suncorp.

At a pinch Iraq could be perhaps be regarded as a big one, but I doubt they'll draw a huge crowd like Uruguay in 2005 and Iran in 1997.

And talking of Iran, what a pity they weren't in our group for yet another blockbuster. How come we got Oman in this 2nd round after having them in the preliminary round? What happened to the AFC's decree that teams wouldn't face each other again in the next round and will be plonked into opposite 2nd round groups?

Forgot to add: The AFC also erred & shoved Iran into the same 2nd round group as teams they met in the preliminary group. Iran recently had a 0-0 draw with Qatar in Tehran in front of 100,000. (Now that's what you call a blockbuster crowd).

ps, we had FIVE over-30s and FIVE players in their upper 20s in the starting line-up @ Suncorp compared to the vibrant younger Japanese side, so we did well to get a point. IMO only Kennedy (29-yr-old) and Holman are realistic chances of getting into the starting line-up. Kewell (33) & Thompson (33) may be past it. But there's nothing else that can be done now. We have to stick with the oldies and get that all-important 2nd spot & qualification. And only worry about blooding youngsters in friendlies in the next two years before the World Cup @ Brazil 2014. It would be white-knuckle stuff to come 3rd and have to meet the 3rd team in the Iran/Sth Korea/Uzbekistan/Qatar/Lebanon group AND then a play-off with the 5th team of South America on top of it all.

[Steve#4]

He had his arms around his waste and was pulling him towards goal.....A clear penalty by the laws of the game.

I love the whole 'laws of the game' reasoning

If the 'laws of the game' were used consistently then there would be more stopping and starting than netball, fact is holding, pushing, pulling happens on every corner, free kick etc the one that lead to Australia's penalty was very soft

No, if it were policed as such, then maybe players would stop the ugly scragging and shirt pulling etc etc that happens on every corner.......hmmmmm

[Stuckey]

Forgot to add: The AFC also erred & shoved Iran into the same 2nd round group as teams they met in the preliminary group. Iran recently had a 0-0 draw with Qatar in Tehran in front of 100,000. (Now that's what you call a blockbuster crowd).

ps, we had FIVE over-30s and FIVE players in their upper 20s in the starting line-up @ Suncorp compared to the vibrant younger Japanese side, so we did well to get a point. IMO only Kennedy (29-yr-old) and Holman are realistic chances of getting into the starting line-up. Kewell (33) & Thompson (33) may be past it. But there's nothing else that can be done now. We have to stick with the oldies and get that all-important 2nd spot & qualification. And only worry about blooding youngsters in friendlies in the next two years before the World Cup @ Brazil 2014. It would be white-knuckle stuff to come 3rd and have to meet the 3rd team in the Iran/Sth Korea/Uzbekistan/Qatar/Lebanon group AND then a play-off with the 5th team of South America on top of it all.

Where does that leave Australian football after the WC? 3 quarters of our squad will probably retire and we will have to play the olyroo generation that has literally no experience at senior international level. If we are still in the top 50 in the world rankings by 2018 I'll be happily surprised!

[Stuckey]

Ahh found out why Holman missed the match. He had a photo shot with Aston Villa!

[Mister Miyagi]

if it were policed as such, then maybe players would stop the ugly scragging and shirt pulling etc etc that happens on every corner.......hmmmmm

Absolutely.

[Porky]

Forgot to add: The AFC also erred & shoved Iran into the same 2nd round group as teams they met in the preliminary group. Iran recently had a 0-0 draw with Qatar in Tehran in front of 100,000. (Now that's what you call a blockbuster crowd).

ps, we had FIVE over-30s and FIVE players in their upper 20s in the starting line-up @ Suncorp compared to the vibrant younger Japanese side, so we did well to get a point. IMO only Kennedy (29-yr-old) and Holman are realistic chances of getting into the starting line-up. Kewell (33) & Thompson (33) may be past it. But there's nothing else that can be done now. We have to stick with the oldies and get that all-important 2nd spot & qualification. And only worry about blooding youngsters in friendlies in the next two years before the World Cup @ Brazil 2014. It would be white-knuckle stuff to come 3rd and have to meet the 3rd team in the Iran/Sth Korea/Uzbekistan/Qatar/Lebanon group AND then a play-off with the 5th team of South America on top of it all.

Where does that leave Australian football after the WC? 3 quarters of our squad will probably retire and we will have to play the olyroo generation that has literally no experience at senior international level. If we are still in the top 50 in the world rankings by 2018 I'll be happily surprised!

It's a catch 22....but, Where will it leave Australia after the qualifiers if we don't qualify? Eventually there will be a rebuild, but, I do believe we still have our best squad out there!! I'd love to see some of the younger players get a run but every time they have had a chance, they have failed to impress. Tommy Oar is a player I have heard is doing well, but, is he better than players we have there already? Breciano to me was finished with the socceroos but then he comes back and plays better than we've seen him in years......They are called the golden generation for a reason, and deserve to be there......I just hope we do blood more youngsters in any friendlies before 2014....but to be honest I can't see anything like a "2006 quality" side happening untill at least 2018, maybe even 2022.