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Napoli 2 Roma 2

They played ok in the first half and were good for their lead, but we killed them in the second half and needed to hang on.

Very disappointing to concede that late, Maggio should know better than to dive in.

Missed numerous second half chances, but WOW what goals from Zuzu and Cavani (standard really).

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Great game. Great goals

My mate was at the game and he got to witness 2 fabulous Napoli goals

I go watch Napoli for 4 games 2-3 years ago and they couldnt even score not even 1 goal for me!!!!!!

Talk about copping in the cuolo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We actually did everyone else a favour with that result.

Inter win, Udinese win, we will have 4 teams on same points going into last 3 rounds.

We have a better head to head record with Inter and Udinese.

We finish equal on points with Roma or Lazio at the end they go through on head to head.

Roma still in with a shout for 3rd spot.
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Fantastic goals by Cavani and zuniga but the defensive error on roma's last goal was terrible. What was happening between the crowd and totti after the game???
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I've said it many times before but Cavani is the best striker in the league, and yes he is better than Ibra.

Siena basically playing for nothing against Milan tonight as they're not in the relegation battle, but hopefully they can still take points off the reigning champs.
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Tonight will be as tough as Cesena in midweek. Matri is suspended and Pepe injured. Quagliarella returns but is in doubt due to injury, same with Del Piero.
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Big big problems between the supporters and management at Roma.

Basically they want Enrique sacked. After the first goal you could see Rosi's reaction towards the crowd, very very angry.

They should stick with him and be patient they have some top young players like Pjanic, Jose Angel and Bojan.
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Another clinical win and one with club legends Boniperti and Platini in the audience. You know everything is falling right in a game when Vucinic scores two and Borriello also finds the net.

What a week coming up...two wins and that's it.
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As it stands:

Juventus 77
Milan 74
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Napoli 55 (PALERMO, BOLOGNA, SIENA)
Udinese 55 (CESENA, GENOA, CATANIA)
Inter 55 (PARMA, MILAN, LAZIO)
Lazio 55 (SIENA, ATALANTA, INTER)
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Roma 51 (CHIEVO, CATANIA, CESENA)
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If the table had finished like this at seasons end it would mean Napoli qualify for CL not due to their superior goal difference but their head to head with the other teams.

Napoli 11pts
Udinese 8pts
Inter 6pts
LAzio 5pts

Inter still to play Lazio last game.

If Napoli equal points with either Udinese or Inter comes season end then Napoli would go through to CL on count back

If Napoli equal points with Lazio comes season end then Lazio would go through to CL on count back
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Relegation to Serie B

Q. Lecce and Genoa have both drawn their respective games.

If they finished level on points would it come down to goal difference or a playoff or a ?????????
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Put a fork in Lazio, they are done. I think the Napoli game was our last big effort with the paper thin squad... expecting players to return, only instead to have more injuries. The squad can barely cope with with just Serie A football, imagine how thin it would look with Serie A plus UCL football?
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LFTWNG11 wrote:Put a fork in Lazio, they are done. I think the Napoli game was our last big effort with the paper thin squad... expecting players to return, only instead to have more injuries. The squad can barely cope with with just Serie A football, imagine how thin it would look with Serie A plus UCL football?
Unfortunately Lazio lost Klose at the wrong time. Add Hernanes to that's, as well as Radu, it will be hard.

Our destiny is in our hands now - if we win al three games (Palermo Home, Bologna away and Siena Home) we are thru.
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Another brilliant performance from our Bianconeri.

Giaccherini was absolutely dominant on the left, and good to see Vucinic grab 2. Defence was solid as ever.

What a weird weekend in football. Borriello scores 2 games in a row, Elia gets a 20 minute run-out, and Torres scores a hatty for Chelsea :lol:
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Blue Mastiff wrote:Relegation to Serie B

Q. Lecce and Genoa have both drawn their respective games.

If they finished level on points would it come down to goal difference or a playoff or a ?????????
Rules for classification: 1st points; 2nd head-to-head points; 3rd head-to-head goal difference; 4th head-to-head goals scored; 5th goal difference; 6th number of goals scored.
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Then flip a coin
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Milos Krasic dives last season = suspension. Di Natale dives vs Lazio = €2,000 fine.

One had the Milan media on a witchhunt ('typical Serb' was one comment said during that time), the other didn't... can you guess which one?
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Juventino wrote:Milos Krasic dives last season = suspension. Di Natale dives vs Lazio = €2,000 fine.

One had the Milan media on a witchhunt ('typical Serb' was one comment said during that time), the other didn't... can you guess which one?
Lazio got fined €20,000 and have lost Marchetti and Dias for the season because the referee decided to allow a goal that was not valid. We will be lucky to qualify for Europa, basically playing our reserves/youth squad for the last couple of games.

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LFTWNG11 wrote:
Juventino wrote:Milos Krasic dives last season = suspension. Di Natale dives vs Lazio = €2,000 fine.

One had the Milan media on a witchhunt ('typical Serb' was one comment said during that time), the other didn't... can you guess which one?
Lazio got fined €20,000 and have lost Marchetti and Dias for the season because the referee decided to allow a goal that was not valid. We will be lucky to qualify for Europa, basically playing our reserves/youth squad for the last couple of games.

Pogba to Juve is all but done...... sucked in Man United.
Read about the Pogba situation as well. Will definitely increase our already strong CM contingent if true.

Also rumoured that Damaio's first choice is Juve over Real Madrid. Definitely will be one of our striker options in the coming transfer window but would people prefer him to Cavani, Higuain, van Persie/other names that have been mentioned?

Would probably be cheaper than all of these options but is unproven in Europe.
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When I saw the scenes in Udine and saw Bergonzi was the ref, I was not shocked. That guy does not give any aura of authority which a referee needs. Rubbish decision that should have been called back. But so much for a media silence, it lasted what, one day?

As for Pogba, I am skeptical until he does something at senior level. I hope if we do sign him the deal is not in the millions. Haven't watched Damiao much so won't pretend I know about him and when you buy from South America it is hit and miss. Juve cannot afford to miss. I'd like Cavani and he has said in the past he wants to play for Juve,
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Juventino wrote:Milos Krasic dives last season = suspension. Di Natale dives vs Lazio = €2,000 fine.

One had the Milan media on a witchhunt ('typical Serb' was one comment said during that time), the other didn't... can you guess which one?
Youre about to win the scudetto & your worried about this?
If it's consistency your after then i want to talk about Hamsik's retaken penalty vs Juve, had it stood, we will never know, but i seriously doubt wether you would still be unbeaten.

As for Cavani, 1 thing is for sure, he won't leave unless its for a ridiculous fee, especially if Lavezzi moves on.
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getborn wrote:
Juventino wrote:Milos Krasic dives last season = suspension. Di Natale dives vs Lazio = €2,000 fine.

One had the Milan media on a witchhunt ('typical Serb' was one comment said during that time), the other didn't... can you guess which one?
Youre about to win the scudetto & your worried about this?
If it's consistency your after then i want to talk about Hamsik's retaken penalty vs Juve, had it stood i seriously doubt wether you would still be unbeaten.
Agreed it shouldn't be something that we should be concerned about at this stage of the season. However I feel I must point out that whilst consistency is the main focal point here, you are trying to use an incident which happened in situation rather than one which was referred to video evidence in which the player was convicted as a result of.

In this case the Di Natale and Krasic incidents are the same and should be treated as such. Outcomes for compariable issues that happen in situation during the games are always going to vary due to the human error element attached to the game.
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Trezegoal #17 wrote:
getborn wrote:
Juventino wrote:Milos Krasic dives last season = suspension. Di Natale dives vs Lazio = €2,000 fine.

One had the Milan media on a witchhunt ('typical Serb' was one comment said during that time), the other didn't... can you guess which one?
Youre about to win the scudetto & your worried about this?
If it's consistency your after then i want to talk about Hamsik's retaken penalty vs Juve, had it stood i seriously doubt wether you would still be unbeaten.
Agreed it shouldn't be something that we should be concerned about at this stage of the season. However I feel I must point out that whilst consistency is the main focal point here, you are trying to use an incident which happened in situation rather than one which was referred to video evidence in which the player was convicted as a result of.

In this case the Di Natale and Krasic incidents are the same and should be treated as such. Outcomes for compariable issues that happen in situation during the games are always going to vary due to the human error element attached to the game.
Can I compare Hamsiks penalty to every other one taken in Serie A this season?
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LFTWNG11 wrote:
Juventino wrote:Milos Krasic dives last season = suspension. Di Natale dives vs Lazio = €2,000 fine.

One had the Milan media on a witchhunt ('typical Serb' was one comment said during that time), the other didn't... can you guess which one?
Lazio got fined €20,000 and have lost Marchetti and Dias for the season because the referee decided to allow a goal that was not valid. We will be lucky to qualify for Europa, basically playing our reserves/youth squad for the last couple of games.

Pogba to Juve is all but done...... sucked in Man United.
I feel sorry for Lazio....I reckon if they disallowed that goal they would have been in with a chance to beat Udinese with 13 seconds left.....SUCCHIA!! CHECCHE!!!
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Juventino wrote:When I saw the scenes in Udine and saw Bergonzi was the ref, I was not shocked. That guy does not give any aura of authority which a referee needs. Rubbish decision that should have been called back. But so much for a media silence, it lasted what, one day?

As for Pogba, I am skeptical until he does something at senior level. I hope if we do sign him the deal is not in the millions. Haven't watched Damiao much so won't pretend I know about him and when you buy from South America it is hit and miss. Juve cannot afford to miss. I'd like Cavani and he has said in the past he wants to play for Juve,
To be honest, I don't get too much into which refs do what. They are all just a man with black uniform for mine.

On the media silence, are you really suprised Igli Tare would break his own media silence after 24 hours? Easily the most incompetant Sporting Director in Serie A. I have actually grown to like Lotito, but why he keeps this Albanian clown around is beyond me.
aussie pride wrote:I feel sorry for Lazio....I reckon if they disallowed that goal they would have been in with a chance to beat Udinese with 13 seconds left.....SUCCHIA!! CHECCHE!!!
Sorry I missed the part where I said it cost us the game?
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In this case the Di Natale and Krasic incidents are the same and should be treated as such. Outcomes for compariable issues that happen in situation during the games are always going to vary due to the human error element attached to the game.[/quote]

Can I compare Hamsiks penalty to every other one taken in Serie A this season?[/quote]

Yes of course you can, but any comparison you make is done in hindsight, these decisions are made in the moment by people that are fallable. I know that you are going to refer to the penalty encroachment for Juve against Cesena as a similar instance, and your right it is but it was made by two different refs who were not aided by video evidence, so it should be down to a consistency issue amongst the refs and how they apply the rules.

All I was doing was stating that verdicts for the same offence founded by the same people should carry the same punishments and that it shouldn't be compared with in game decisions that are given on face value.
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Edy Reja says Lazio are “not dead yet” in the race for third, but insists they were right to protest Udinese’s goal. “Everyone saw what happened.”

The Biancocelesti were clear in the last Champions League spot a few weeks ago, but are now on level terms with Udinese, Inter and Napoli.

Federico Marchetti received a four-match ban and Andre Dias a three-game stop for their furious protests at Udinese’s second goal, as the team thought they heard the final whistle and stopped playing, but it was coming from the stands.

“Everyone saw what happened, the images are clear,” said the Coach. “We thought the game was finished, then saw referee Bergonzi wave to continue. We conceded a goal that I consider to be irregular, as our players had stopped.”

Reja also suggested the phantom whistle was not from a fan in the stands, but rather a member of the Udinese staff.

“Our sensation was that the whistle came from near to the pitch. We then understood that Bergonzi wanted to resume with a toss-up after disallowing the goal, but then it didn’t happen. Anyway, we must focus on Siena now. Udinese are behind us and the club have made their steps to appeal.

“We are not dead yet. We have the same chance of finishing third as we did before. We will begin by winning tomorrow and trying to turn the light back on, as Siena are out last opportunity to stay in the race.

“Winning is indispensible, as we need a reaction and to find some calm again. Unfortunately, I have to evaluate the fitness levels of Tommaso Rocchi, Francelino Matuzalem and Giuseppe Biava, while we have very few options in defence. We might even have to change our system.

“I can say that in my entire career I have never experienced a season like this with so many injuries and other issues off the field.”
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Juventus set a new Serie A record by going unbeaten for the first 35 rounds, while in all competition they haven’t lost in 39, one more than Inter’s all-time record in 2004-05. Juve celebrated an eighth consecutive victory in which they have conceded only once. It is their fifth away match on the trot with a clean sheet, something that hadn’t happened since 1979 when the run was six.

Novara’s unbeaten home run ended at four draws and two wins. The Bianconeri have won seven of their 13 trips to Novara. Mirko Vucinic’s seventh Serie A brace took his career total to 81, while Marco Borriello went up to 58 with his second in as many games. Arturo Vidal has seven strikes, three in as many matches.

Antonio Cassano celebrated his 87th Serie A goal, his first since October 15 2011, Milan 3-0 Palermo. He has an average of 0.69 assists per game, so only Angel Di Maria of Real Madrid has done better on 0.71 in the five top European Leagues this season.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic raised his total to 120 and with 26 this season sets a new Serie A personal best, improving on the 25 for Inter in 2008-09. Antonio Nocerino has netted 17 goals in his entire top flight career, 10 of them in the current campaign, making him the Rossoneri’s second top scorer. Milan have won six of their last seven away games in Serie A, drawing the other, while it is their sixth victory in eight top flight trips to Siena. Massimiliano Allegri marked his 100th official match on the Milan bench.

Siena have scraped just one point from their last two home matches. They managed only one victory in 2005 from their 16 League encounters with Milan, losing 13 and drawing two. Erjon Bogdani marked his 39th Serie A goal.

Antonio Di Natale loves facing the Capital clubs, as he has put 11 goals past both Roma and Lazio in his Serie A career, nine of those against the Biancocelesti were at the Stadio Friuli. This was the 200th goal in professional Leagues for Di Natale, including 100 in the last four years. Lazio fell to their fifth consecutive away defeat, something that hadn’t happened since November 1995 to January 1996. The Biancocelesti have not conquered the Friuli since a 4-2 result in 2006-07, followed by three draws and two losses. Roberto Pereyra marked his debut Serie A goal at the eighth appearance.

Roma amassed one point in their last two Olimpico outings, but have scored in each of their last 19 games for a total 40 goals. Marquinho has got three Serie A goals, all of them in Rome, while Fabio Simplicio marked his 43rd career strike.

Napoli have notched up seven points in three rounds, but still have only one victory in their last five away tests, losing two. Juan Camilo Zuniga celebrated his 100th official match in a Partenopei jersey by netting his fourth Serie A goal. Edinson Cavani is the top scorer in the 2012 calendar year with 17 goals in all competition, one ahead of Diego Milito.

Inter extended their unbeaten run to six rounds and three consecutive San Siro triumphs. Joel Obi got his debut Serie A goal at the 35th appearance, even though it took a huge deflection. Mauro Zarate netted his 27th, the second in this stadium with an Inter jersey. The Nerazzurri have fought back to earn an extra 18 points this term, 10 of them under Andrea Stramaccioni.

Cesena are without a victory since beating Novara 3-1 on January 15, followed by 10 losses in 17 outings. The Sea Horses have won just one of their 12 top flight visits to San Siro, celebrating in 1975 along with eight defeats and three draws. Luca Ceccarelli’s only previous Serie A goal was in January 2011 against Brescia. Mario Beretta has lost all eight of his encounters with the Nerazzurri.

Lecce fell to a second consecutive home defeat, but Parma are unbeaten at the Stadio Via del Mare since a 1-0 result on May 12 1991, coming away with five victories and as many stalemates. Nenad Tomovic marked his debut Serie A goal at the 61st appearance. The Ducali had not managed four consecutive wins since March 2006. Sebastian Giovinco took his seasonal tally to 13 goals, while Gabriel Paletta got his fourth career strike. Roberto Donadoni had never conquered Lecce before with three draws and a defeat.

Cagliari have lost just one of their last 10 home games (including those played in Trieste) along with seven victories. However, it is their sixth 0-0 domestic result. Chievo have picked up just two points from the last four rounds, both goalless draws, and haven’t scored for 399 minutes of football.

Palermo have not won at the Stadio Barbera since thrashing Lazio 5-1 on February 19, managing only two points from six games. The Rosanero celebrated a single victory in the last eight Sicilian derbies, losing five and drawing two, but Bortolo Mutti remains unbeaten against Catania with a win and three draws. Fabrizio Miccoli’s 92nd Serie A goal was his 13th of the season, 10 of them on home turf.

Catania set a new club record with 47 points in a single Serie A season, one more than in 2010-11. With 45 goals they are one shy of another record set in 1964-65 and 2006-07. Nicola Legrottaglie’s 17th top flight strike was his fifth of the campaign, a new personal best for the veteran defender. Mariano Izco marked his 50th Serie A match in an Elefantini jersey, second only to goalkeeper Giuseppe Vavassori on 150.

Bologna extended their unbeaten run to two wins and three draws. In the second half of the season the Rossoblu registered 25 points compared to the 15 from games they played at this stage at the start. Daniele Portanova’s 14th top flight strike was his third of the campaign, one shy of his personal best with Siena in 2004-05. Gaston Ramirez has put two of his total 11 Serie A goals past Genoa, who are his favourite targets along with Fiorentina. Gyorgy Garics had not netted since October 5 2008, Atalanta 4-2 Sampdoria, but it is his third overall.

Genoa are still without a victory since beating Lazio 3-2 on February 5, managing six draws and eight losses. They have the worst away record in the division with 13 defeats, conceding 43 goals. Rodrigo Palacio has scored 18 goals this season, doubling his total from last term. Cristobal Jorquera marked his second Serie A strike.

Atalanta are mathematically safe on 46 points, but including their six-point penalty have amassed a new club record of 52 points in a Serie A season. The previous best was 50 in 2006-07. German Denis has put two of his 16 goals of the campaign past Fiorentina and is now on 33 in Serie A overall. Simone Bonaventura’s only previous top flight goal was against Napoli on April 11. Stefano Colantuono had never previously beaten Fiorentina with three draws and as many losses. The Viola wasted their second consecutive penalty.

The Viola were unbeaten in four, winning two, but have just one victory in their last 11 trips to Bergamo between Serie A and B. Aside from that 2009 win, they have lost five and drawn five.
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