Rangers

[God is an Englishman]

The grumpy englishman has spoken.
His new name, "God is a Grumpy Englishman"

classic...............

Thanx, well he is.

Good to hear you both agree that he is at least English.

[dfkjs]

do you realise the TV deal that keeps the SPL alive is dependent on Rangers being a going concern?

no Rangers, no SPL even if Celtic can afford to pay the bills via their own enterprises. careful what you wish for.

You do realize the spl tv is worth stuff all

its worth a lot to the bulk of the clubs that make up the SPL
no Rangers, no TV deal, no SPL

Celtic will be left to play in a semi pro comp unless they want to fund it themselves.

[Ctrl-Alt-Del]

Who do you support pal ? ( I'm just curious )

Cowdenbeath.

[DOC]

do you realise the TV deal that keeps the SPL alive is dependent on Rangers being a going concern?

no Rangers, no SPL even if Celtic can afford to pay the bills via their own enterprises. careful what you wish for.

You do realize the spl tv is worth stuff all

its worth a lot to the bulk of the clubs that make up the SPL
no Rangers, no TV deal, no SPL

Celtic will be left to play in a semi pro comp unless they want to fund it themselves.

Typical thinking of someone who has no idea

No rangers means another team would be stronger, or many teams and mean a more competitive league, I lot of clubs budget for themselves and not what another club may bring and rangers are bringing these other clubs down by not paying money they owe them

The days in the eighties were great when anyone could win the league, before rangers started all this cheating under Murray which has weakened the Scottish league system severely, rangers are responsible for the state of Scottish football atm

[God is an Englishman]

i agree, last week I couldn't wait for dunfermline v dundee to be the live game. Worth the sky subscription alone that one.

[yogi]

i agree, last week I couldn't wait for dunfermline v dundee to be the live game. Worth the sky subscription alone that one.

Dunfermline don't play Dundee you ,,,,,,,,,,LMFAO x 1000

[God is an Englishman]

That proves how much interest games outside the auld firm actually muster.

[Fitz]

the scottish league is not a healthy one. unfortunately i believe the glory days are well and truly passed for both scottish giants and the rest of the teams will struggle to survive. you can see in european competition that neither Rangers nor Celtic are anywhere close to being a force.

[DOC]

the scottish league is not a healthy one. unfortunately i believe the glory days are well and truly passed for both scottish giants and the rest of the teams will struggle to survive. you can see in european competition that neither Rangers nor Celtic are anywhere close to being a force.

This is a very naive, uneducated view

[Fitz]

the scottish league is not a healthy one. unfortunately i believe the glory days are well and truly passed for both scottish giants and the rest of the teams will struggle to survive. you can see in european competition that neither Rangers nor Celtic are anywhere close to being a force.

This is a very naive, uneducated view

okay, riddle me up the points to prove otherwise and i will be educated Doc. If you can do so, then great, I will have learnt something about the global game.

[DOC]

the scottish league is not a healthy one. unfortunately i believe the glory days are well and truly passed for both scottish giants and the rest of the teams will struggle to survive. you can see in european competition that neither Rangers nor Celtic are anywhere close to being a force.

This is a very naive, uneducated view

okay, riddle me up the points to prove otherwise and i will be educated Doc. If you can do so, then great, I will have learnt something about the global game.

Ok look through this thread, vista bhoy and I have made numerous points stating the Scottish game doesn't need a strong rangers, plus there are 2 articles in here that back up those points

[Fitz]

okay, will do. if i am enlightened by the readings, cheers, glad i have a higher understanding.

[Fitz]

okay neither article impressed me or changed my views. the first looked like it was simply a forum post. could have been on a celtic forum for all i know. as for your posts Doc, they are as one eyed as they come and all I seem to have read is that how much you would like Rangers to fold.

however, some good points in there. I agree that it would be a good move for both Rangers and Celtic to join in somewhere around the Championship, with the rest of the clubs in the league one or league two divisions. That would basically dissolve the SPL into the English leagues, providing meaningful competitions for all involved.

as I stated before though, something needs to change in Scottish football, because its going backwards.

[DOC]

Both provide facts and numbers on the whole situation, the one about Aberdeen shows how teams will survive without the scum

[Fitz]

Both provide facts and numbers on the whole situation, the one about Aberdeen shows how teams will survive without the scum

clearly you dont have an objective view on the matter so your opinion is clouded with pre-conceived mentalities.

[DOC]

No it's filled with the facts and figures in that article and that many clubs, including Celtic, have come out and said their financial model doesn't need rangers, plus the fact that rangers have fucked clubs over

[God is an Englishman]

then why are celtic pushing for rangers 2012 to be let straight back in?

[God is an Englishman]

a celtic supporter I know is on facebook going on about how the glasgow derby has 10 times more atmosphere than the North London derby.

Guess that person understands that scotiish football needs the auld firm.

[followfollow]

Saying that Celtic does not need Rangers is the biggest cods wallop I have ever heard. If a Rangers fan said the same statement but in reverse, then I would be baffled for his or her ignorance. Glasgow itself needs the two to be strong!!!
It's a pipedream that the old firm will join the English leagues; they will never get the hundred percent acceptance from the English clubs.
Below is another persons blog from the ESPN forum and I totally relate to it.
Like everyone on these forums, I love my team, it gives you hope and something to look forward to through the hectic busy working week. For the people hoping the demise of someone’s team and unhappiness to a individual,(normally demonstrated from highly religious people) , get a life……..

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I am a rangers man and a football fan. I do not hate Catholics and frankly, as with the majority of Rangers fans, couldn't give a toss which sky fairy you choose to believe in. As a boy I chose a team, a team I've stuck to my whole life, one that has given my indescribable joy and at time brought me tears of frustration. I wouldn't have missed it.
Supporting the Gers does not make me vile as some of you clearly believe. Are you really arrogant enough to think you can know someone by the team they support? You, and a great many others on these forums have relentlessly taunted ordinary, everyday people who just happen be Rangers fans, assigning to them whatever negative traits you deem cutting enough whilst at the same time reveling in their pain. Can you not see that it's your own hate that is truly repugnant?
You may try to justify it all you like,hate is hate. The writer of this piece may not be surprised by the levels of vitriol being displayed but I for one, am astonished.

[DOC]

The thing is the club budget to be self sufficient and not what rangers and Celtic will bring them

And hawkeye maybe Celtic are voting them back in the preserve this spectacle of world football? Give the fans something

[Hibs seven]

Saying that Celtic does not need Rangers is the biggest cods wallop I have ever heard. If a Rangers fan said the same statement but in reverse, then I would be baffled for his or her ignorance. Glasgow itself needs the two to be strong!!!
It's a pipedream that the old firm will join the English leagues; they will never get the hundred percent acceptance from the English clubs.
Below is another persons blog from the ESPN forum and I totally relate to it.
Like everyone on these forums, I love my team, it gives you hope and something to look forward to through the hectic busy working week. For the people hoping the demise of someone’s team and unhappiness to a individual,(normally demonstrated from highly religious people) , get a life……..

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I am a rangers man and a football fan. I do not hate Catholics and frankly, as with the majority of Rangers fans, couldn't give a toss which sky fairy you choose to believe in. As a boy I chose a team, a team I've stuck to my whole life, one that has given my indescribable joy and at time brought me tears of frustration. I wouldn't have missed it.
Supporting the Gers does not make me vile as some of you clearly believe. Are you really arrogant enough to think you can know someone by the team they support? You, and a great many others on these forums have relentlessly taunted ordinary, everyday people who just happen be Rangers fans, assigning to them whatever negative traits you deem cutting enough whilst at the same time reveling in their pain. Can you not see that it's your own hate that is truly repugnant?
You may try to justify it all you like,hate is hate. The writer of this piece may not be surprised by the levels of vitriol being displayed but I for one, am astonished.

Fair point follow, unfortunately all you decent blokes from either side of the West Coast divide get tarred with the same brush. It is easy to forget that not everyone carries the same intolerance as a minority (although it may not be particularly small) from both clubs.

[yogi]

Rangers in crisis: 11 Ibrox players set to be axed as administrators begin savage cuts
Mar 1 2012 Exclusive by James Traynor & Keith Jackson.

AN entire team of 11 Rangers players will be axed this morning.
But those who survive the cull will also suffer savage cuts. Record Sport can reveal the players who avoid the chop will have their wages slashed by half.
It’s believed all the players agreed to the pay cut in advance of the hitlist being drawn up to avoid even more heads being put on the chopping block.
It is also understood manager Ally McCoist will demand his own salary be reduced dramatically but club sources stressed last night that he was struggling to come to terms with the numbers.

The cuts are much more swingeing than he or anyone else had thought and by the time all the players on the list have been tapped on their shoulders, today will go down as one of the blackest in the club’s long history.
This is the day everyone connected with Rangers has been dreading but the club’s administrators insist the wage bill must be cut savagely now if the club are to struggle on.
Fear has been stalking the corridors of the training complex and Ibrox since the club slipped into administration and although chief operating officer Ali Russell and director of football Gordon Smith were axed last week, the cull begins in earnest today.
It remains to be seen if McCoist will also lose valuable and trusted members of his backroom staff.

The manager couldn’t be contacted last night but he’s said to be ‘devastated’ by the cuts and the loss of people he considers friends.
The reduction means McCoist will be left with barely enough players to come up with a match-day squad and although he’d wanted to distance himself from the process he’s had to accept that he can’t step back.
He is aware of the list and it’s believed one of the names on it is that of Lee McCulloch, who has been a stalwart for Rangers.
McCulloch has always put this club first and although all the job losses will come as severe blows to every player his will be one of the unkindest cuts of all.
A player of many positions McCulloch’s departure will have a massive effect on dressing-room morale. That, of course, will leave McCoist with a seemingly impossible task.
He will have to work wonders if he’s to talk the remaining players around in time for Saturday’s match against Hearts because a thick cloud of depression will fall like a heavy shroud over Murray Park as the players are called in to be told that for them it’s time up.

They will have their contracts torn up and be told to pack their belongings.
Then they’ll say their goodbyes and drive out through the Murray Park gates for the final time.
Other players, Sasa Papac and Dorin Goian, have already spoken of their fears that they’ll be part of the Ibrox exodus and it has also been suggested reserve keeper Neil Alexander, striker David Healy and Kirk Broadfoot could also be on the list.
The fact is only those players with high residual values, players like Steve Davis, Allan McGregor and Steven Naismith, can be certain of avoiding the axe when it falls this morning.

The job cuts would have been implemented earlier this week but last night’s international friendlies meant the administrators, Duff and Phelps, had to hold off until today when everyone will report back to Murray Park.
Duff and Phelps have started legal action in London in an attempt to persuade a judge to force Collyer Bristow to open up their books and release money they insist belongs to Rangers.
It’s believed there could be as much as £4million of the club’s money in the Collyer Bristow client account which Craig Whyte set up last year when putting together his takeover strategy.

The client account is also where the £24m Whyte raised through his deal with Ticketus was deposited and this arrangement is also likely to become a court case.
It’s been shown Whyte’s plan was flawed from the very beginning and serious questions about the legality of the entire process are being asked.
Some sources close to what is a rapidly developing as a scandal believe Whyte and Rangers’ company secretary Gary Withey must be called to account for the mess into which Rangers have descended since the takeover was signed and sealed on May 6 last year.

And late last night it was reported that Withey, a partner with Collyer Bristow, might no longer be in position. If so, that’s one loss no Rangers fan will lament.
The administrators have been pursuing Withey since they took over but have been disappointed and angered because they believe he could have been more co-operative.


Interesting that the players left from the cull have taken a paycut, having their wages slashed by half to help
reduce the player exodus............fair call by the players at Hunsville.

[God is an Englishman]

And hawkeye maybe Celtic are voting them back in the preserve this spectacle of world football? Give the fans something

[Colossus's Attorney]

Bring back Third Lanark.

[yogi]

Bring back Third Lanark.

LOL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Colossus's Attorney]

only thing stopping it is getting a majority vote from the epl or championship

Rightly so. If they want to play in England they should start at the bottom.

They could swap with Doncaster Rovers.

[DOC]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... l?ITO=1490

[DOC]

The sfa are set to launch an investigation into Ibrox a d the use of double contracts for players!

Tick tock tick tock

[Knight15]

How anyone can honestly say that the Scottish League doesn't need rangers is beyond me with them the game is semi interesting but in trouble. Without them it's a bore fest and in real trouble. Only positive Celtic could budget on getting into the Champions League qualifier and hopefully then qualify

[DOC]

How anyone can honestly say that the Scottish League doesn't need rangers is beyond me with them the game is semi interesting but in trouble. Without them it's a bore fest and in real trouble. Only positive Celtic could budget on getting into the Champions League qualifier and hopefully then qualify

Mate there are several articles about the place that show Scotland does t need the cheating orange shite