Stream of Manchester derby

[bapa]

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You lost, go away.

[Nice One Cyril]

Any decent shot on goal could break a defender's leg if they happen to stick out their leg at last second too. Where do you draw the line? Far too many reds issued ad hoc these days for sometimes nothing tackles. The Shearing one at Fulham was another bullshit send off.

The LOTG are pretty clear, if the referee deems it to be dangerous or excessively forceful it's an early bath. The tackler has a choice to stay on his feet so it's about educating them to 'play smart'.

Personally, I agree that the game is poorer without a crunching tackle but the World is so obsessed with bloody Health and Safety it's not surprising they've been outlawed.

I agree about a crunching tackle but getting airborn with a 2 footed lunge, front on, has never been looked upon favourably.

Plus, if say, Chris Smalling had of done the same thing to Kun Aguiero... I reckon everyone's arguement would be reversed.

Without a doubt. There's nowt so one-eyed as a Manc, irrespective of colour.

I do think though that it would be a lot easier for players to understand what's acceptable and what's not, if the officials made more of an attempt to apply the ruling consistently and impartially. That just doesn't happen atm.

[blue moon]

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You lost, go away.

typical thick rag twat

[El Capitano]

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You lost, go away.

typical thick rag twat

Small club syndrome.

[Squizzy]

whats the difference then with the giggs incident, no action taken there i notice

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Should have been yellow card I would have thought.

But differences?!? Are you kidding me?!

Tackled from behind, not a two footed lunge, spriggs not showing; that'll do for now - I didn't even finish watching it.

[Squizzy]

The LOTG are pretty clear, if the referee deems it to be dangerous or excessively forceful it's an early bath. The tackler has a choice to stay on his feet so it's about educating them to 'play smart'.

Personally, I agree that the game is poorer without a crunching tackle but the World is so obsessed with bloody Health and Safety it's not surprising they've been outlawed.

I agree about a crunching tackle but getting airborn with a 2 footed lunge, front on, has never been looked upon favourably.

Plus, if say, Chris Smalling had of done the same thing to Kun Aguiero... I reckon everyone's arguement would be reversed.

Without a doubt. There's nowt so one-eyed as a Manc, irrespective of colour.

I do think though that it would be a lot easier for players to understand what's acceptable and what's not, if the officials made more of an attempt to apply the ruling consistently and impartially. That just doesn't happen atm.

I've always been a Man Utd supporter. But this one is a no brainer.

I thought I read somewhere that the Ref's approached all clubs in pre-season relating to rulings just like this (and others obviously). So it's not like it wasn't known by the players - regardless of whether there's consistant ruling or not.

Which I do agree with you on that - consistancy and impartiality is somewhat lacking. But always has been too. It all depends on the individual numpty that's Reffing on the day.

[blue moon]

whats the difference then with the giggs incident, no action taken there i notice

http://mirrorimg.net/im1/0b4.gif

Should have been yellow card I would have thought.

But differences?!? Are you kidding me?!

Tackled from behind, not a two footed lunge, spriggs not showing; that'll do for now - I didn't even finish watching it.

well dont comment then as you would have seen where the second foot ended up, it was the one that made contact, anyway its not about 2 or 1 footed the rule is about excessive force / endangering the opponent. studs were showing - you obviously follow afl with your "spriggs" reference so probably best not to post numpty.

[Nice One Cyril]

whats the difference then with the giggs incident, no action taken there i notice

http://mirrorimg.net/im1/0b4.gif

Should have been yellow card I would have thought.

But differences?!? Are you kidding me?!

Tackled from behind, not a two footed lunge, spriggs not showing; that'll do for now - I didn't even finish watching it.

well dont comment then as you would have seen where the second foot ended up, it was the one that made contact, anyway its not about 2 or 1 footed the rule is about excessive force / endangering the opponent. studs were showing - you obviously follow afl with your "spriggs" reference so probably best not to post numpty.

But, as Squizzy wrote earlier, it's true that had a United donkey (too many to choose from to name an individual ) cleaned up Aguero in exactly the same manner, you'd have been screaming for a red card and a 20 match ban.

[blue moon]

[Should have been yellow card I would have thought.

But differences?!? Are you kidding me?!

Tackled from behind, not a two footed lunge, spriggs not showing; that'll do for now - I didn't even finish watching it.[/quote]

well dont comment then as you would have seen where the second foot ended up, it was the one that made contact, anyway its not about 2 or 1 footed the rule is about excessive force / endangering the opponent. studs were showing - you obviously follow afl with your "spriggs" reference so probably best not to post numpty.[/quote]

But, as Squizzy wrote earlier, it's true that had a United donkey (too many to choose from to name an individual ) cleaned up Aguero in exactly the same manner, you'd have been screaming for a red card and a 20 match ban.[/quote]

he did clean up aguero in the same manner. i would think both yellow, but if red for one then red for the other. just maybe the difference was that for the aguero challenge there wasnt some cock running into the refs face demanding a red card.

[Squizzy]

well dont comment then as you would have seen where the second foot ended up, it was the one that made contact, anyway its not about 2 or 1 footed the rule is about excessive force / endangering the opponent. studs were showing - you obviously follow afl with your "spriggs" reference so probably best not to post numpty.

But, as Squizzy wrote earlier, it's true that had a United donkey (too many to choose from to name an individual ) cleaned up Aguero in exactly the same manner, you'd have been screaming for a red card and a 20 match ban.[/quote]

he did clean up aguero in the same manner. i would think both yellow, but if red for one then red for the other. just maybe the difference was that for the aguero challenge there wasnt some grenache running into the refs face demanding a red card.[/quote]




No matter what terminology I use (spriggs, cleat, studs, etc.) the definite differences were "Tackle from behind, not a two foot lunge and studs (happy?) not showing. Therefore, he did not clean him up in the same manner, you numpty

Definite yellow though but we've already commented on the inconsistancy of the Ref(s).

Kompany's tackle is a definite red card, fullstop.

And no I don't follow afl, so I guess you fail there too, numpty.

[blue moon]

No matter what terminology I use (spriggs, cleat, studs, etc.) the definite differences were "Tackle from behind, not a two foot lunge and studs (happy?) not showing. Therefore, he did not clean him up in the same manner, you numpty

Definite yellow though but we've already commented on the inconsistancy of the Ref(s).

Kompany's tackle is a definite red card, fullstop.

And no I don't follow afl, so I guess you fail there too, numpty.[/quote]

we'll have to agree to disagree, i think the giggs tackle is worse, at least from front on he was attempting to win the ball which he did (similar to the glen johnson one), whereas giggs from behind had no chance of winning the ball. both feet made contact with the players legs - therefore two footed.

[bapa]

at trying to defend Kompany tackle on Nani and Giggs on Aguero....

Kompany deserving RED, not deserving 4 game ban!

Giggs nada, no game ban