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Re: EPL 23/24

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Frank Costanza wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:33 pm Burnley continue to struggle...
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And why the continued interest with Burnley? :lol: ;-)

Think your little wager was safe from the get-go, though not in everyone's eyes.

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Re: EPL 23/24

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thebeautifulgame wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:53 pm
Frank Costanza wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:33 pm Burnley continue to struggle...
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And why the continued interest with Burnley? :lol: ;-)

Think your little wager was safe from the get-go, though not in everyone's eyes.
For this exact reason.
I don't want it forgotten amongst all the chatter about VAR
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Nice One Cyril wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:10 pm
haywood djablowme wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:42 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:05 am
haywood djablowme wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:38 am Well played VAR another fine performance 👏
Which bit did you not like, or are you like Arteta, calling the decision to let Havertz off with a yellow a disgrace, an embarrassment etc.? :lol:

For the record, although I do accept that Havertz was trying to block the ball up the line, rather than directly tackle Longstaff, and only caught him with his trailing leg, in the modern game I think he was very lucky to stay on.

As for the goal, it was obvious that the ball stayed in play and Gordon was definitely onside, but I am a bit mystified how they allowed two hands in the back not to be deemed to be working Gabriel under the ball and a foul. :crazy:

Couldn't happen to a nicer team :grin: :grin:
Havertz was lucky to stay on - yes!

There was a gap between the ball & line - yes!

2 hands / arms at full stretch in the back of Gabby - yes!

After it made contact with the Newcastle player, there was 1 Arsenal player behind the ball, clear offside - yes!

VAR should of stopped reviewing the incident at the ball out of play, it seems to me they are reviewing the 'whole' scene & forget which one they should be intervening on.. it's an absolute joke of a system. It's costing teams points!
I think you need to revisit the laws, it's the whole of the ball over the whole of the line and many a time I've seen turf on the other side of the line but the ball is still in, just look at how they position the ball for corners these days. As for the possible offside, Gordon was behind, at worst level, with the ball, so the number of men between him and the goal is irrelevant. Cannot be offside if you're behind the ball.

I think the only reason they didn't call Joelinton for a foul was that Gabriel made no attempt to jump for the ball, he just stuck his muscat out and held his ground as Joelinton jumped sort of over him. Still a foul for me, but it's Arsenal so who gives a shiraz? :lol:

Arteta to spend a few weeks in the stands I think. :clown:
The ball was out but even if unbelievably it was in, the push in the back was as clear a free as can be. The ref should have called that. VAR surely had to. Spent all its time on the out ball. Not a gunner's fan at all but that was a disgrace.

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Re: EPL 23/24

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Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Midfield Maestro wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:52 am Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
Lucky not to get a red for the challenge alone. :lol: Mind you, he's only 20, they should go easy on him ;-)

I was saying to my mate in England that thirty years ago Romero's tackle would have been perfect, wins the ball down low and leaves a bit on the opponent, it wouldn't have even been a foul. I guess it's still like that in Argentina. ;-)
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Re: EPL 23/24

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by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:22 am

Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
just wondering if Irukunda would agree.....or do you have different standards for different countries????? :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Nice One Cyril wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:44 am
Midfield Maestro wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:52 am Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
Lucky not to get a red for the challenge alone. :lol: Mind you, he's only 20, they should go easy on him ;-)

I was saying to my mate in England that thirty years ago Romero's tackle would have been perfect, wins the ball down low and leaves a bit on the opponent, it wouldn't have even been a foul. I guess it's still like that in Argentina. ;-)
Udogie was a yellow and that's it, can't believe you ignore the dissent though ;-)

Romero not a penalty and not a red.
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Plus Martin Tyler needs to retire and that other peanut next to him shouldn't be in the box again
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Unread post by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:27 am

Romero not a penalty and not a red.
agree.......

in the same passage of play, just before the penalty, Sterling shouldve been carded for simulation...thus no penalty...
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Re: EPL 23/24

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ok......now im officially confused...

re: Chelseas 2nd goal...

can you not be called offside after being passively offside but gaining an advantage???

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That was a great game for Tottenham to go through. They would have gained so much more from that than if they had beaten Chelsea confortably. It's the loss they had to have
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Re: EPL 23/24

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MegaBonus wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:48 am
by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:22 am

Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
just wondering if Irukunda would agree.....or do you have different standards for different countries????? :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Nice One Cyril wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:44 am
Midfield Maestro wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:52 am Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
Mind you, he's only 20, they should go easy on him ;-)
And just to clarify, I've never mentioned anywhere that decisions for or against Irankunda should be based on his age. In fact, it is an argument used by the pro ref crowd because "it teaches young players they can't do that"
So Udogie should have been taught a lesson if that is the standard. :thumbup:
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Unread post by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:40 am
MegaBonus wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:18 am
by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:22 am

Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
just wondering if Irukunda would agree.....or do you have different standards for different countries????? :crazy: :crazy:
You need some sarcasm awareness training
nice backtrack..... :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Re: EPL 23/24

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MegaBonus wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:25 am
Unread post by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:40 am
MegaBonus wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:18 am
by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:22 am

Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
just wondering if Irukunda would agree.....or do you have different standards for different countries????? :crazy: :crazy:
You need some sarcasm awareness training
nice backtrack..... :clap: :clap: :clap:

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lol like usual, everyone else's fault, it's never you
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Re: EPL 23/24

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MegaBonus wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:25 am
Unread post by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:40 am
MegaBonus wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:18 am
by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:22 am

Udogie should have received a yellow for the challenge then a yellow for dissent. Lucky to still be on the pitch.
just wondering if Irukunda would agree.....or do you have different standards for different countries????? :crazy: :crazy:
You need some sarcasm awareness training
nice backtrack..... :clap: :clap: :clap:

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15 years ago I might have agreed with this, but once you get to know regular contributors, it's funny how easily you can "read" between the lines.
PS - I thought it was blue text, but the left are turning more and more green, so that doesn't surprise any more. ;-)
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Re: EPL 23/24

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Unread post by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:02 am

lol like usual, everyone else's fault, it's never you
no...not everyone....just you.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Bomber » Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:41 am

PS - I thought it was blue text, but the left are turning more and
more green
, so that doesn't surprise any more
never cease to disappoint....your two favourite topics in the 1 sentence....your dinner parties must be exciting affairs.... :roll:
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Re: EPL 23/24

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MegaBonus wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:37 am
Post by Bomber » Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:41 am

PS - I thought it was blue text, but the left are turning more and
more green
, so that doesn't surprise any more
never cease to disappoint....your two favourite topics in the 1 sentence....your dinner parties must be exciting affairs.... :roll:
The irony of you not seeing the ;-)

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Re: EPL 23/24

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MegaBonus wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:03 am
Unread post by Midfield Maestro » Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:27 am

Romero not a penalty and not a red.
agree.......

in the same passage of play, just before the penalty, Sterling shouldve been carded for simulation...thus no penalty...
Sterling is a cheating, diving little champagne and should be pulled up more. Spurs should be reasonably pleased that, with 9 men, two of their best players off injured, they still managed to get to 75 minutes on level terms.
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Post by Bomber » Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:11 am

QED
the only thing you have proven is your predictability..... ;-) ;-) ;-)
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MegaBonus wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:05 pm
Post by Bomber » Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:11 am

QED
the only thing you have proven is your predictability..... ;-) ;-) ;-)
Which is showing you up (time and time again). :thumbup:
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Music to NOC's ears from Southgate in a stinging criticism of VAR

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67373765

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ozzie owl wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:00 am Music to NOC's ears from Southgate in a stinging criticism of VAR

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67373765
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:13 am
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:00 am Music to NOC's ears from Southgate in a stinging criticism of VAR

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67373765
I'm a big fan of Gareth :lol:
Sadly the authorities believe VAR has made the game better and we are going to be stuck with it now.

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ozzie owl wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:52 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:13 am
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:00 am Music to NOC's ears from Southgate in a stinging criticism of VAR

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67373765
I'm a big fan of Gareth :lol:
Sadly the authorities believe VAR has made the game better and we are going to be stuck with it now.
Sports betting (and their sponsorships) main reason VAR exists IMO.
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Bomber wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:38 am
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:52 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:13 am
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:00 am Music to NOC's ears from Southgate in a stinging criticism of VAR

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67373765
I'm a big fan of Gareth :lol:
Sadly the authorities believe VAR has made the game better and we are going to be stuck with it now.
Sports betting (and their sponsorships) main reason VAR exists IMO.
Nah, it was always going to happen once we had TV with a zillion different angles, it gave the pundits the chance to analyse in forensic detail.
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