Lack of names on Socceroos players' shirts

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paul merson wrote:
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paul merson wrote:I noticed it too Con, looked odd just because its the norm to have it, I suppose its what weve become used too.

No biggy just looked unfinished.
Got to watch more internationals mate, becoming the norm again out of big tournaments
But 95% of the football you'd watch has it, therefor that's what I'd consider the norm
Technically the norm for club football not internationals :wink:
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Couldn't work out who the Jordanians were without their names the other night! Ruined the game for me! :wink:
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Stuckey wrote:Couldn't work out who the Jordanians were without their names the other night! Ruined the game for me! :wink:
Would it have helped it they had them on in their own language?
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Stuckey wrote:Couldn't work out who the Jordanians were without their names the other night! Ruined the game for me! :wink:
Would it have helped it they had them on in their own language?
Probably not!
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Is Stevie G playing tonight? No names! ;)
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Stuckey wrote:Is Stevie G playing tonight? No names! ;)

:lol:

yeah just check at half time and fulltime in the carpark, he will be the one holding the "slim jim"!
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I could not tell alot of the players, other than the victory ones.
Surely if Liverpool wanted to engage more fans, than just their passionate followers, they should of had names on the back of tops.

I liked no14 and no9 when they came on. But not being a fan of liverpool, I could not tell who they were.

also, Victory youngsters impressed me alot.
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Jojo wrote:I could not tell alot of the players, other than the victory ones.
Surely if Liverpool wanted to engage more fans, than just their passionate followers, they should of had names on the back of tops.

I liked no14 and no9 when they came on. But not being a fan of liverpool, I could not tell who they were.

also, Victory youngsters impressed me alot.
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I think most people who watch EPL regularly would have a good idea who most of the players are. Obviously a few youth players getting a run only Liverpool fans would have probably heard of before.
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Stuckey wrote:
Jojo wrote:I could not tell alot of the players, other than the victory ones.
Surely if Liverpool wanted to engage more fans, than just their passionate followers, they should of had names on the back of tops.

I liked no14 and no9 when they came on. But not being a fan of liverpool, I could not tell who they were.

also, Victory youngsters impressed me alot.
They have a very bright future
I think most people who watch EPL regularly would have a good idea who most of the players are. Obviously a few youth players getting a run only Liverpool fans would have probably heard of before.

So in other words, 90% at the game had no idea who they were?
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Jojo wrote:
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Jojo wrote:I could not tell alot of the players, other than the victory ones.
Surely if Liverpool wanted to engage more fans, than just their passionate followers, they should of had names on the back of tops.

I liked no14 and no9 when they came on. But not being a fan of liverpool, I could not tell who they were.

also, Victory youngsters impressed me alot.
They have a very bright future
I think most people who watch EPL regularly would have a good idea who most of the players are. Obviously a few youth players getting a run only Liverpool fans would have probably heard of before.

So in other words, 90% at the game had no idea who they were?
Considering the YNWA before the game. There we loads of Liverpool fans there. Its not like that handed out choir cards for everyone!
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Just back on topic about players' names on shirts, I like how the EPL has apparently standardised the style & font size of the names and the size of the large number on all EPL club shirts. And doesn't have advertising cluttering the back of the shirt.

Some other leagues and even national teams are all over the place with different sizes, styles, lower case, capitals, sponsors' names cluttering sometimes above, sometimes below the number etc etc etc.

In places like the USA or Australia where the sport is not number one, I still reckon this small but important point is vital in helping the casual mainstream fan who may tune into the game or go to the stadium.

FIFA could even take a leaf out of the EPL's approach to this, albeit a minor issue and order standard say, 9cm (3.5 inch) capital lettering for the name and 25cm (10-inch) size for the player's number.

ps, the funniest thing I ever saw about getting names on shirts was way back at the World Cup Finals at USA '94. The manager of the Cameroon team had clearly run out of time or didn't have hot-press equipment and there he was hand-writing the name with a large black texta pen..
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For the time and effort that would take to organise globally I can't see it happening but I agree it is annoying sometimes trying to read who a player's name is in the Brazilian Serie A and think "Gee that guy Pepsi sure looks like Neymar?!"
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Stuckey wrote: Considering the YNWA before the game. There we loads of Liverpool fans there. Its not like that handed out choir cards for everyone!
So you didn't see the words on the big screen then :P

Or listen how the crowd only drowned out Gerry and the Pacemakers during one certain chorus!!
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Stuckey wrote:For the time and effort that would take to organise globally I can't see it happening but I agree it is annoying sometimes trying to read who a player's name is in the Brazilian Serie A and think "Gee that guy Pepsi sure looks like Neymar?!"
Wasn't thinking the impossible - ie, globally in the various leagues. I'm just thinking FIFA's flagship tournament, the month-long World Cup every 4 years.

It's good that FIFA doesn't allow sponsor advertising clutter on shirts, but it would also be good to see the names standardized to 9cm (3.5 inch) lettering and the number to 25cm (10-inch).
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Con M wrote:It's good that FIFA doesn't allow sponsor advertising clutter on shirts, but it would also be good to see the names standardized to 9cm (3.5 inch) lettering and the number to 25cm (10-inch).
What about for names like Vennegoor of Hesselink or anythink longer?
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Ahmet Papadopoulous wrote:
Con M wrote:It's good that FIFA doesn't allow sponsor advertising clutter on shirts, but it would also be good to see the names standardized to 9cm (3.5 inch) lettering and the number to 25cm (10-inch).
What about for names like Vennegoor of Hesselink or anythink longer?
They're fairly rare. Probably abbreviate.

Can't remember what the EPL does with the longer names - I think they start as wide as possible from the shoulders, or curve the name over the top of the 10-inch number.
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Con M wrote:
Ahmet Papadopoulous wrote:
Con M wrote:It's good that FIFA doesn't allow sponsor advertising clutter on shirts, but it would also be good to see the names standardized to 9cm (3.5 inch) lettering and the number to 25cm (10-inch).
What about for names like Vennegoor of Hesselink or anythink longer?
They're fairly rare. Probably abbreviate.

Can't remember what the EPL does with the longer names - I think they start as wide as possible from the shoulders, or curve the name over the top of the 10-inch number.
Here's my own Celtic shirt with VoH printed at the back :lol: It's the same font as the usual SPL, but narrower letters.

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When he moved to Hull City in the EPL, they made narrower letterings for his name. Same goes to Wright-Phillips, the letters are standard height but width wise, it's narrower:
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Similar case for Adidas international teams, as they all use the same font for their printings, players like Schweinsteiger will have narrower letterings, as opposed to Ozil for example.

Of course, then u have Tottenham who decides to stick with the norm and goes 180 degree instead:

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