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Re: England pre- WC Squad

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God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:14 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:13 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:12 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:31 am
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Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:52 am

So how will changing confederations make friendlies easier for you?

It wouldn't.
You said it would
No I didn't. You need to read what's written rather than assume what's written.
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Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:15 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:14 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:13 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:12 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:31 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:58 am


It wouldn't.
You said it would
No I didn't. You need to read what's written rather than assume what's written.
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You have the wrong person, we're not related and my name isn't Harry.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:34 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:15 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:14 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:13 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:12 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:31 am

You said it would
No I didn't. You need to read what's written rather than assume what's written.
Uncle Harry
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lol you are uncle harry
You have the wrong person, we're not related and my name isn't Harry.
You need to read what's written rather than assume what's written. 🤪
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Re: England pre- WC Squad

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Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:42 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:34 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:15 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:14 pm
Arena Oaxaca wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:13 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:12 pm

No I didn't. You need to read what's written rather than assume what's written.
Uncle Harry
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lol you are uncle harry
You have the wrong person, we're not related and my name isn't Harry.
You need to read what's written rather than assume what's written. 🤪
But I'm not Uncle Harry, my name isn't Harry. You have the wrong person.

Even if it was, we're not related so I'm not Uncle.
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England relegated to Nations League B after grim defeat to Italy
Until this last game against Germany, England were in illustrious company

Only two nations were yet to score a single non-penalty goal in the 2022-23 UEFA Nations League.

- San Marino
- England

https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/27/when-is- ... -17445921/

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eagleboy wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:08 pm England relegated to Nations League B after grim defeat to Italy
Until this last game against Germany, England were in illustrious company

Only two nations were yet to score a single non-penalty goal in the 2022-23 UEFA Nations League.

- San Marino
- England

https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/27/when-is- ... -17445921/
I think this has been covered. It's old news. Does anyone care about friendlies?
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Does it mean though that we will be unseeded going into the next Euro qualifiers ?

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N5 1BH wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:41 am Does it mean though that we will be unseeded going into the next Euro qualifiers ?
2nd seeds apparently.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:23 am
N5 1BH wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:41 am Does it mean though that we will be unseeded going into the next Euro qualifiers ?
2nd seeds apparently.
they had better plant them this time.
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Old Master wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:05 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:23 am
N5 1BH wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:41 am Does it mean though that we will be unseeded going into the next Euro qualifiers ?
2nd seeds apparently.
they had better plant them this time.

Why? We haven't lost a competetive match for years.
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Are you now technically lower than Scotland?

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Coptic Scum wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:33 am Are you now technically lower than Scotland?
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God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:47 am
Coptic Scum wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:33 am Are you now technically lower than Scotland?
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england is below scotland
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Just Dave now wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:31 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:47 am
Coptic Scum wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:33 am Are you now technically lower than Scotland?
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God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:48 pm
Just Dave now wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:31 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:47 am
Coptic Scum wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:33 am Are you now technically lower than Scotland?
No
england is below scotland
No
look at the map , its pretty clear
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Just Dave now wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:01 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:48 pm
Just Dave now wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:31 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:47 am
Coptic Scum wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:33 am Are you now technically lower than Scotland?
No
england is below scotland
No
look at the map , its pretty clear
Depends which way round you hold it.
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You can see why TAA can’t get picked up for England , his defending last night was terrible .

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ozzie owl wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:23 am You can see why TAA can’t get picked up for England , his defending last night was terrible .
I don't coach, so I can't be sure, but it seems to me that nobody is actually taught how to defend in the modern game. I watched the West Ham v Wolves game and three times the Wolves defence let Jarrod Bowen come inside onto his left, have they never watched him play before, he can only kick with one foot? Same with the Spurs defence and Saka, surely with all the backroom support clubs have these days, someone can analyse the opposition and point these things out to defenders, it's really not brain surgery.
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ozzie owl wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:23 am You can see why TAA can’t get picked up for England , his defending last night was terrible .
Saw up until 2-1 and completely agree.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:16 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:23 am You can see why TAA can’t get picked up for England , his defending last night was terrible .
Saw up until 2-1 and completely agree.
He scored a brilliant Free-Kick against Rangers though.
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Old Master wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:41 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:16 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:23 am You can see why TAA can’t get picked up for England , his defending last night was terrible .
Saw up until 2-1 and completely agree.
He scored a brilliant Free-Kick against Rangers though.
Doesn't change the fact that his defending is not at national level.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:25 pm
Old Master wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:41 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:16 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:23 am You can see why TAA can’t get picked up for England , his defending last night was terrible .
Saw up until 2-1 and completely agree.
He scored a brilliant Free-Kick against Rangers though.
Doesn't change the fact that his defending is not at national level.
That is not important though, Maguire isn't even at Championship level.

He is off form this season, no doubt, he should be in the squad IMO, however I doubt he will be, and that's Gareth's choice. He is paid to manage what he thinks is best for the team.

As someone said, Klopp picks a team to win a game, Southgate picks a team not to lsoe - and that is the reason TAA is not suited to the England set up.

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Victor Meldrew wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:20 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:25 pm
Old Master wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:41 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:16 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:23 am You can see why TAA can’t get picked up for England , his defending last night was terrible .
Saw up until 2-1 and completely agree.
He scored a brilliant Free-Kick against Rangers though.
Doesn't change the fact that his defending is not at national level.
That is not important though, Maguire isn't even at Championship level.

He is off form this season, no doubt, he should be in the squad IMO, however I doubt he will be, and that's Gareth's choice. He is paid to manage what he thinks is best for the team.

As someone said, Klopp picks a team to win a game, Southgate picks a team not to lsoe - and that is the reason TAA is not suited to the England set up.
Defensive skills at national level are very important and currently both Maguire and TAA are not up to the required level . IMO both Maguire and TAA should be omitted from the England WC squad . Given his lack of game time at MU the same argument could hold for Luke Shaw .

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It depends how you play.

Last few seasons or so LFC have done ‘ok’ with TAA .

He can defend ok, he is off form though and is not the world’s best defender but he is good. All this he cant defend is typical modern day over reaction garbage

Or do you know better than Klopp and Neville etc?

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Victor Meldrew wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:07 am It depends how you play.

Last few seasons or so LFC have done ‘ok’ with TAA .

He can defend ok, he is off form though and is not the world’s best defender but he is good. All this he cant defend is typical modern day over reaction garbage

Or do you know better than Klopp and Neville etc?
I watched part of the Liverpool game on saturday and felt 2 of the goals had some blame given to TAA.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:10 am
Victor Meldrew wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:07 am It depends how you play.

Last few seasons or so LFC have done ‘ok’ with TAA .

He can defend ok, he is off form though and is not the world’s best defender but he is good. All this he cant defend is typical modern day over reaction garbage

Or do you know better than Klopp and Neville etc?
I watched part of the Liverpool game on saturday and felt 2 of the goals had some blame given to TAA.
Agree - he wasn’t great - along with others

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Re: TAA what you have to remember is, although he's defensively OK in the PL, most of the wingers and forwards he comes up against are not world class, they're only OK too, but when, or maybe if, we get to the pointy end of a World Cup, the standard will be high and solid defending will be required. I don't think he can do that and I don't think that England play in a way that will allow him to get high up the pitch and deliver the ball as he does for Liverpool, at least not on a regular basis.

Gareth does not like flair or luxury players, he wants solid, dependable types who'll run all day, not necessarily in the right places. He's impressed when a player mucks up a simple pass and gives it away to the opposition, then chases like mad to try and get the ball back. I'm impressed with the player who can play the simple pass perfectly every time and doesn't have to run around like a headless chook.

Given that we have James and Walker in the right back spot and Trippier able to cover them, I'd rather take an extra midfielder like Maddison than a suspect full back.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:54 am Re: TAA what you have to remember is, although he's defensively OK in the PL, most of the wingers and forwards he comes up against are not world class, they're only OK too, but when, or maybe if, we get to the pointy end of a World Cup, the standard will be high and solid defending will be required. I don't think he can do that and I don't think that England play in a way that will allow him to get high up the pitch and deliver the ball as he does for Liverpool, at least not on a regular basis.

Gareth does not like flair or luxury players, he wants solid, dependable types who'll run all day, not necessarily in the right places. He's impressed when a player mucks up a simple pass and gives it away to the opposition, then chases like mad to try and get the ball back. I'm impressed with the player who can play the simple pass perfectly every time and doesn't have to run around like a headless chook.

Given that we have James and Walker in the right back spot and Trippier able to cover them, I'd rather take an extra midfielder like Maddison than a suspect full back.
luckily you dont coach. and actually dont really have a clue.

the World Cup final will most likley have mainy PL players in it.

i dont coach either, but only one manager actually thinks leaving TAA at home is the right thing - Gareth.

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Victor Meldrew wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:02 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:54 am Re: TAA what you have to remember is, although he's defensively OK in the PL, most of the wingers and forwards he comes up against are not world class, they're only OK too, but when, or maybe if, we get to the pointy end of a World Cup, the standard will be high and solid defending will be required. I don't think he can do that and I don't think that England play in a way that will allow him to get high up the pitch and deliver the ball as he does for Liverpool, at least not on a regular basis.

Gareth does not like flair or luxury players, he wants solid, dependable types who'll run all day, not necessarily in the right places. He's impressed when a player mucks up a simple pass and gives it away to the opposition, then chases like mad to try and get the ball back. I'm impressed with the player who can play the simple pass perfectly every time and doesn't have to run around like a headless chook.

Given that we have James and Walker in the right back spot and Trippier able to cover them, I'd rather take an extra midfielder like Maddison than a suspect full back.
luckily you dont coach. and actually dont really have a clue.

the World Cup final will most likley have mainy PL players in it.

i dont coach either, but only one manager actually thinks leaving TAA at home is the right thing - Gareth.
I can see some bias here from you. :lol:

He's a bang average defender. ;-)
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agree!!!

But deserves to be in the squad.

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