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Giovinco_The_Great wrote:
Knight7 wrote:
Giovinco_The_Great wrote:Adelaide Red Blue Eagles last year charged $200(+$50bond to cover fines)

included sublimated shirt..(returned to club at the end of the year)

players kept. socks, shorts,polo and bag.

fee also included SAASL standard regos.
$50 for fines that's a lot of bookings!
it wasnt just for one fine it covered a few, if they ran out they could not play until they payed up again. That is not going to be continued in 2010. Hopefully prices will drop.
So the people that didnt get any fines or only just got 1 for the season had to pay $50 anyway. Thats a bit backwards.
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So if you got to the last 3 games and had no bookings, you could just say 'fuck it' and go mental :?:
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Knight7 wrote:So if you got to the last 3 games and had no bookings, you could just say 'shiraz it' and go mental :?:
Not every team would have the Knights approach :wink:
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it wasnt just for one fine it covered a few, if they ran out they could not play until they payed up again. That is not going to be continued in 2010. Hopefully prices will drop.
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ooops sent the same msg agen.... knight25 in answer to your question, the whole idea of the $50.00 BOND is that if they didnt get fined they got it back at the end of the season... sorry for the confusion. and agen the club has scrapped the bond this year!
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ozriel wrote:
jets no.7 wrote:modbury jets was $100 by march or $120 after, included socks and rego, not to sure what para hills east will be this year yet!
jets this year $50 before march or $80 after, including socks and rego which the club hopes will attract some new faces. surely the best deal in the north east. and i hope easties slug ya heaps 7 ya turncoat

yes Ozriel, I couldn't believe that either.That offer is well mental,cheapest reg in the Amateur League for sure!Have to be a few clubs out there that are envious :shock: :shock: :D
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acu_falcon wrote:ACU Falcons:

$150 for under 16 and $300 for over 16.

But for that we got:

- SAASL registraition
- Match shirt issued on gameday
- Match shorts
- Match socks
- Training shirt
- Training shorts
- Full tracksuit
- Bag with players initials on one side
- Goalkeeping pants (keepers only)

We have to thank our awesome committee and sponsors for organising that one....
That is value no doubt.....Can't complain about that package.
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Franco UnAmerican wrote:
acu_falcon wrote:ACU Falcons:

$150 for under 16 and $300 for over 16.

But for that we got:

- SAASL registraition
- Match shirt issued on gameday
- Match shorts
- Match socks
- Training shirt
- Training shorts
- Full tracksuit
- Bag with players initials on one side
- Goalkeeping pants (keepers only)

We have to thank our awesome committee and sponsors for organising that one....
That is value no doubt.....Can't complain about that package.
I guess thats what the new guys will pay this year and it'll be less for those who already have the stuff issued from last year.
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swannsong wrote:
Knight7 wrote:So if you got to the last 3 games and had no bookings, you could just say 'shiraz it' and go mental :?:
Not every team would have the Knights approach :wink:
Pretty sure you only cop the yellow card fine if the player accumulates enough to be suspended. If you get just the one yellow for the year, you don't pay the fine.
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Jay Walking wrote:Pretty sure you only cop the yellow card fine if the player accumulates enough to be suspended. If you get just the one yellow for the year, you don't pay the fine.
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Interesting reading.
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So what are clubs charging these days?

Re reading some of the amounts from 2 years ago, some clubs must have great sponsors
to charge what they do.
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First year in the league but we are charging the boys $150

This includes saasl rego fee+ club socks(with N.P.F.C on the side) + sublimated shorts(with our logos and sponsors) +sublimated training top, there kits washed and provided on game day, also any medical kit stuff they may need
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I think it depends on what facilities you have to offer events you do and what you give back to the club. We charge $250 which includes full kit which then goes back to the club at the end of year. Our club and change room facilties are the best i have seen in Div 2.
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aussie pride wrote:I think it depends on what facilities you have to offer events you do and what you give back to the club. We charge $250 which includes full kit which then goes back to the club at the end of year. Our club and change room facilties are the best i have seen in Div 2.
I think anywhere between $200-250 is great value for what most clubs provide. We supply Shorts, socks, cap and members key ring for players to keep. Jerseys supplied game day.

Anyone that complains about what clubs charge should do a stint on the committee for a season and see what's involved in keeping a club running.
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Franco# wrote:
aussie pride wrote:I think it depends on what facilities you have to offer events you do and what you give back to the club. We charge $250 which includes full kit which then goes back to the club at the end of year. Our club and change room facilties are the best i have seen in Div 2.
I think anywhere between $200-250 is great value for what most clubs provide. We supply Shorts, socks, cap and members key ring for players to keep. Jerseys supplied game day.

Anyone that complains about what clubs charge should do a stint on the committee for a season and see what's involved in keeping a club running.

well said!!
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Eliz vale is $100 which covers rego, trainer etc., shirt provided on match day and is to be returned after the game. Shorts and socks to be bought from the club at an additional price (which is fairly cheap anyway).
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A lot of Sunday clubs have very cheap Rego's, is that because of sponsors/Bar and canteen sales or because players receive match payments?

Serious question, not having a dig.
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Franco# wrote:
aussie pride wrote:I think it depends on what facilities you have to offer events you do and what you give back to the club. We charge $250 which includes full kit which then goes back to the club at the end of year. Our club and change room facilties are the best i have seen in Div 2.
I think anywhere between $200-250 is great value for what most clubs provide. We supply Shorts, socks, cap and members key ring for players to keep. Jerseys supplied game day.

Anyone that complains about what clubs charge should do a stint on the committee for a season and see what's involved in keeping a club running.
As a longish serving comittee member i have to disagree with that. I dont think rego fees should cover the running of the club (which costs time not money) as this should be a volunteer service. On the other hand if you mean in regards to costs (training equipment, coaches etc) then fair enough though we use revenue to cover these

At Brahma, Rego is $120, and that gets you registration, trainer and club membership, worth $20, which gets you various things such entry into weekly members draw and free meals each sunday eveings after games.

Shorts and socks, polos, jackets etc are available at the club at cost price, rather than bumping up all rego costs to include these, as we find most players dont want new socks or shorts as they already have them.

Each to their own of course. If people want to play for the club they should pay what is asked
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Franco# wrote:A lot of Sunday clubs have very cheap Rego's, is that because of sponsors/Bar and canteen sales or because players receive match payments?

Serious question, not having a dig.
As with my last post it all depends on what you are using the rego charges for. If clubs have bar revenue they may have the luxury of not needing to charge players more than cost price for rego. If you dont well then you obviously need to source revenue other ways which may be by charging players extra. Is this the big difference between the Saturday and Sunday clubs you are trying to compare, some have bars others dont?
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Franco# wrote:
aussie pride wrote:I think it depends on what facilities you have to offer events you do and what you give back to the club. We charge $250 which includes full kit which then goes back to the club at the end of year. Our club and change room facilties are the best i have seen in Div 2.
I think anywhere between $200-250 is great value for what most clubs provide. We supply Shorts, socks, cap and members key ring for players to keep. Jerseys supplied game day.

Anyone that complains about what clubs charge should do a stint on the committee for a season and see what's involved in keeping a club running.
Really $250 great Value?
I've been on a club committee recently and seen first hand, that player registration is a good way to milk additional funds from the players.
If you look in the right place, you can source a full adidas strip for 1/5 of that amount. Plus rego fee with the league - peanuts. Clubs should stop milking their members out of laziness, monitor every single dollar coming in vs going out and of course work that little bit harder in getting sponsors.
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Steward wrote:
Franco# wrote:
aussie pride wrote:I think it depends on what facilities you have to offer events you do and what you give back to the club. We charge $250 which includes full kit which then goes back to the club at the end of year. Our club and change room facilties are the best i have seen in Div 2.
I think anywhere between $200-250 is great value for what most clubs provide. We supply Shorts, socks, cap and members key ring for players to keep. Jerseys supplied game day.

Anyone that complains about what clubs charge should do a stint on the committee for a season and see what's involved in keeping a club running.
Really $250 great Value?
I've been on a club committee recently and seen first hand, that player registration is a good way to milk additional funds from the players.
If you look in the right place, you can source a full adidas strip for 1/5 of that amount. Plus rego fee with the league - peanuts. Clubs should stop milking their members out of laziness, monitor every single dollar coming in vs going out and of course work that little bit harder in getting sponsors.
how much is an annual fee at a gym? then compare what you get. I think it is too cheap....Our club, has a brand new kitchen, provides the best hospitality in food and drinks on a thurs night (better than most caffe's) Upgrades of lights, fantastic events during the year, Outstanding presentation nights and much more...this totals up to a wonderful club atomosphere which builds life long friendships, business opportunties and an escape from some of the stresses of daily life....money enables all of this. What comes in to the club only goes back to the club. And everyone loves it.
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Really $250 great Value?
I've been on a club committee recently and seen first hand, that player registration is a good way to milk additional funds from the players.
If you look in the right place, you can source a full adidas strip for 1/5 of that amount. Plus rego fee with the league - peanuts. Clubs should stop milking their members out of laziness, monitor every single dollar coming in vs going out and of course work that little bit harder in getting sponsors.[/quote]

how much is an annual fee at a gym? then compare what you get. I think it is too cheap....Our club, has a brand new kitchen, provides the best hospitality in food and drinks on a thurs night (better than most caffe's) Upgrades of lights, fantastic events during the year, Outstanding presentation nights and much more...this totals up to a wonderful club atomosphere which builds life long friendships, business opportunties and an escape from some of the stresses of daily life....money enables all of this. What comes in to the club only goes back to the club. And everyone loves it.[/quote]

Not all clubs do this, hats off if you do, which is the right thing to do.
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aussie pride wrote:
how much is an annual fee at a gym? then compare what you get. I think it is too cheap....Our club, has a brand new kitchen, provides the best hospitality in food and drinks on a thurs night (better than most caffe's) Upgrades of lights, fantastic events during the year, Outstanding presentation nights and much more...this totals up to a wonderful club atomosphere which builds life long friendships, business opportunties and an escape from some of the stresses of daily life....money enables all of this. What comes in to the club only goes back to the club. And everyone loves it.
which club is this? no offence mate but you seem to offer the same as most other clubs.
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BPBC wrote:
aussie pride wrote:
how much is an annual fee at a gym? then compare what you get. I think it is too cheap....Our club, has a brand new kitchen, provides the best hospitality in food and drinks on a thurs night (better than most caffe's) Upgrades of lights, fantastic events during the year, Outstanding presentation nights and much more...this totals up to a wonderful club atomosphere which builds life long friendships, business opportunties and an escape from some of the stresses of daily life....money enables all of this. What comes in to the club only goes back to the club. And everyone loves it.
which club is this? no offence mate but you seem to offer the same as most other clubs.
Croydon Cougars. Im sure other clubs provide all these wonderful things too. But in no way do i feel that its too much.
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aussie pride wrote:
BPBC wrote:
aussie pride wrote:
how much is an annual fee at a gym? then compare what you get. I think it is too cheap....Our club, has a brand new kitchen, provides the best hospitality in food and drinks on a thurs night (better than most caffe's) Upgrades of lights, fantastic events during the year, Outstanding presentation nights and much more...this totals up to a wonderful club atomosphere which builds life long friendships, business opportunties and an escape from some of the stresses of daily life....money enables all of this. What comes in to the club only goes back to the club. And everyone loves it.
which club is this? no offence mate but you seem to offer the same as most other clubs.
Croydon Cougars. Im sure other clubs provide all these wonderful things too. But in no way do i feel that its too much.
Yep fair point. Not havinga dig at you blokes as I think the atmosphere is the 1 major thing that keeps the club moving forward rather than backwards, just wondering though, do you guys receive all of your bar/bbq profits? I dont really like the Gym comparisons, a Gym is a business, an amatuer soccer club is not. If we charge players above cost price for drinks and food, why charge above cost price for rego too?
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Look at the picture logically...
Season runs for about 7-8 months.....20-30 weeks (so 40-60 training sessions).
25 games per season including friendlies and cup games.
So all up players can utilize the club or club facilities 65-85 times a year...
If a club charges $130-$170 registration, then that is about $2 per session per player.
Remember also that $37 per player goes to the SAASL to cover league registration fees.
Wouldn't think that anything between $150-$250 would be unreasonable.
Some players would easily spend that much in one night down the local, but try to get it out of them for being part of the Club is often like extracting wisdom teeth !
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BPBC wrote:
Franco# wrote:
aussie pride wrote:I think it depends on what facilities you have to offer events you do and what you give back to the club. We charge $250 which includes full kit which then goes back to the club at the end of year. Our club and change room facilties are the best i have seen in Div 2.
I think anywhere between $200-250 is great value for what most clubs provide. We supply Shorts, socks, cap and members key ring for players to keep. Jerseys supplied game day.

Anyone that complains about what clubs charge should do a stint on the committee for a season and see what's involved in keeping a club running.
As a longish serving comittee member i have to disagree with that. I dont think rego fees should cover the running of the club (which costs time not money) as this should be a volunteer service. On the other hand if you mean in regards to costs (training equipment, coaches etc) then fair enough though we use revenue to cover these

At Brahma, Rego is $120, and that gets you registration, trainer and club membership, worth $20, which gets you various things such entry into weekly members draw and free meals each sunday eveings after games.

Shorts and socks, polos, jackets etc are available at the club at cost price, rather than bumping up all rego costs to include these, as we find most players dont want new socks or shorts as they already have them.

Each to their own of course. If people want to play for the club they should pay what is asked
Look at your last annual report from your treasurer, there are numerous costs in running a club, this is what I was referring to.

People volunteering their time, There are never enough so a minority end up donating the majority of time.

We also charge cost price(sometimes Less) for Merchandise as we want to see as many players in club colours as possible.
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swannsong wrote:Look at the picture logically...
Season runs for about 7-8 months.....20-30 weeks (so 40-60 training sessions).
25 games per season including friendlies and cup games.
So all up players can utilize the club or club facilities 65-85 times a year...
If a club charges $130-$170 registration, then that is about $2 per session per player.
Remember also that $37 per player goes to the SAASL to cover league registration fees.
Wouldn't think that anything between $150-$250 would be unreasonable.
Some players would easily spend that much in one night down the local, but try to get it out of them for being part of the Club is often like extracting wisdom teeth !
Well said Swanny, my thoughts exactly. I pay my rego every year and for what the club provides I feel I am getting a good deal.

I think at the end of the day, if you can afford to charge cheaper Rego for your players and you balance the books at the end of the year that's great.
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Franco# wrote: Look at your last annual report from your treasurer, there are numerous costs in running a club, this is what I was referring to.

People volunteering their time, There are never enough so a minority end up donating the majority of time.

We also charge cost price(sometimes Less) for Merchandise as we want to see as many players in club colours as possible.
I'm aware of the costs mate, trust me. I just dont think players should be gauged at every possible to opportunity to cover these. If you do have a bar i can assure you if you look at your annual report you will see a large amount of revenue raised fom this, and this should more than cover running costs of the club. If you dont have this then i completely understand that you need to look into other ways of generating the running costs.

on your other 2 points i completely agree
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