FFSA & Gawler = stupidity

[Jeda]

:? 2 weeks before season start & Gawler pull out of the 12N league, leaving a total of 7 teams
i've always thought that the more games kids play the better they get leagues with 10 or 12 teams
ffsa get your act together
gawler what was the point

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[prefly]

Plenty of kids and parents not happy at Gawler about this either belive me

[Hollygirl]

Plenty of kids and parents not happy at Gawler about this either belive me

Was it lack of players, pitches or coaches?

If it's lack of players surely they would have known before now...

[robinfriday10]

why do we need five leagues of 8?

cuda dun 4 leagues of 10

[Jeda]

why do we need five leagues of 8?

cuda dun 4 leagues of 10

:? i heard that it was too hard ffsa

[theone]

Gawler have some good young kids that they will not move into the FFSA or parents will not move them. There has to be sepeartion of the FFSA & E&D side at Galwer because no matter what people think the FFSA has the best competition.

Gawler are on a gold mine out there if they can just make some tough decisions and move forward they could become a force @ junior level. 2000 house are being built only 5 mins away now is the time to jump on the wagon and go for it.

[johnydep]

Gawler have some good young kids that they will not move into the FFSA or parents will not move them. There has to be sepeartion of the FFSA & E&D side at Galwer because no matter what people think the FFSA has the best competition.

Gawler are on a gold mine out there if they can just make some tough decisions and move forward they could become a force @ junior level. 2000 house are being built only 5 mins away now is the time to jump on the wagon and go for it.

So Gawler only thought of themsleves did they?

Seven teams in a junior league is ridiculous.

[prefly]

What! 8 teams isnt any better.

Gawler has been very successful in the E&D comp and like it or not some of the younger age group coaches and parents out here have the belief that under 13 and under 14 is the time to move over to feds. The problem with that is you start in the lowest divisions and it’s even harder to get the players you want as they try to go to higher placed teams. You can only put the arguement to the parents, you cant force them if they dont want to move over to feds. I personally would like to see Gawler enter in the under 11 feds and by the under 13's be able to move into A or B division. Its easy for people not involved with the club to make grand all encompassing statements about gawler only thinking of themselves and being a joke how many other Fed clubs have fee's of $360 with a pretty good package to go with it. You just have to see the Feds v's E&D slanging matches that happen on this forum, well just try and imagine that inside a club, with 2 teams in div A feds and the other 3 in C and all their many E&D sides ranging from div 1 to div 4 not to mention the State League boys all on a ground that they share with Hockey, Softball and Cricket, so I dont think they do a bad job, could be a lot better but not bad all the same. Oh I almost forgot they have an amateur side as well

What they need to do at Gawler is to get rid of the Softball and Hockey and just have the football, it will free up more space to train and get the teams off the State league pitch, they have the insane position where you have this massive Hockey playing area that the lads can't even train on because apparently they chew it up. That may be the case with seniors but surely the little ones would'nt. Stupid sports anyway

[Jeda]

What! 8 teams isnt any better.

Gawler has been very successful in the E&D comp and like it or not some of the younger age group coaches and parents out here have the belief that under 13 and under 14 is the time to move over to feds. The problem with that is you start in the lowest divisions and it’s even harder to get the players you want as they try to go to higher placed teams. You can only put the arguement to the parents, you cant force them if they dont want to move over to feds. I personally would like to see Gawler enter in the under 11 feds and by the under 13's be able to move into A or B division. Its easy for people not involved with the club to make grand all encompassing statements about gawler only thinking of themselves and being a joke how many other Fed clubs have fee's of $360 with a pretty good package to go with it.

are u 4 real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If gawler were having problems with parents not wanting to put a team in then tell the federation 2, 3 or 4 months before the season don't leave it to the last minute with oops, sorry we tried but the parents don't think your system is good enough :? and whats this bullshit about A teams the division gawler pulled out is the A division N1

FFSA & Gawler = stupidity more so Gawler

smart & decent people would have looked at there situation, realised that if they didn't go ahead with a team they would be inconviencing 7 other teams/clubs, as well as disappointing a lot of kids

[prefly]

Now Jeda, Ill try to make it easeir for you to understand as i dont use many smiles. They didnt have enough for a team, 5 or 6 players thats all, its not a case of going ahead with a team, there was no team. You have absolutley no idea how many trials they had to try and get players. E&D is very strong up at Gawler thats just a fact and the decent thing was to try until the last possible time to try and get a team up, it didnt happen so if means the under 12 n1 only has 7 teams so be it, take it up with FFSA if you are so concerned with the playing time of your kids (what! not getting your money's worth), its not the first time this has happened and no doubt it wont be the last. The way the under 11 and 12 are organised, It wouldnt have made any difference when Gawler had pulled out there still would have been a small number of teams. Its not A division its the only division for the north, divisions start next year. So get off your high horse, get over it and worry about the season ahead.

I have, time to move on.

[Squizzy]

Would the FFSA have kept it alive this long to see if a team could be made?

Not that this is good either but just wondering why we seem to be smashing the Club more than the FFSA.

I'm not stirring; just asking a legitimate question.

[TOPGUNJIMMYAUFC]

well, theres allways evanston or angle vale or elizzabeth or even barossa,

yah carn't do anything about it, move on an get the kidds a team to play in...

friends from virginia were going to play for gawler this year, an now they will find another club quiickly before the last of registrations close this week..

it will be a hassle getting transfers done in time as well,

gawler need to act quickly to get there releases..

so sad for this to happen for these kidds.....

[johnydep]

What! 8 teams isnt any better.

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I agree.

Not sure why the groups are so small, maybe because the FFSA are trying to keep the teams of similar skill levels together; no point having 20:0 games.

There aren't A & B listings like they have in the older age groups, however there is a distinction of the higher skilled teams in two divisions; N1 = an A team, NE2 = a B or even C team. Same goes with the S1 and SE2.

My son played up an age last year in the U12 NE2 and I beleive that it was great for his development and it is showing this year.

I'm not sure of the circumstances or how the team nominations work, but the reason I presumed that Gawler only thought of themselves is because it is rumoured that they pulled out their Under 12 team two weeks before the start of the season. If this is true, what else could I think?

Yes, I suppose that the club and team were trying their hardest to look after the kids and parents that had committed to the team. So it looks like one of those situations where no one wins.

Maybe the FFSA should make the cut off date for team nominations earlier, so that there is more time to make changes, or maybe change the league from 5 groups to 4. Not sure, however I'm hoping these things are constantly being looked at and debated.

Good luck to Gawler and all the best for the future.

UNDER 12 C1
UNDER 12 N1
UNDER 12 NE2
UNDER 12 S1
UNDER 12 SW2

[harrycripps]

I heard that one kid left Gawler E&D A team for the Fed team, and that when it folded he tried to go back to Gawler E&D team, and was told he would only be accepted for the B,s.

This poor kid and his parents have been "punished" beause of disorganisation by officials of the sport. It's not so easy for them to "just get on with it".

[fossil]

this in not the first time a couple of years back chairman stated the club must fill E&D sides as a priority prior to going into fed.

the worst part of the lot is that if the powers could work together and run duel reg the teams could play saturday and then go over to fed on sunday but thats another topic

[robinfriday10]

[quote="robinfriday10"]why do we need five leagues of 8?

cuda dun 4 leagues of 10

woulda sorted this problem out.......

was led to believe that e&d clubs MUST fill teams in their age before putting in fed clubs otherwise liable to be booted outa e&d

[fossil]

I heard that one kid left Gawler E&D A team for the Fed team, and that when it folded he tried to go back to Gawler E&D team, and was told he would only be accepted for the B,s.

This poor kid and his parents have been "punished" beause of disorganisation by officials of the sport. It's not so easy for them to "just get on with it".

thats poor but you better advise them to get used to it in the E&D system if you show up you get a game and in the fed you trial each year and some clubs show very little loyalty to players at the end of the year, try looking for a development based club as they at least look further than the weekly results, some actually look to the next few years and how long they can keep what players they are developing.

if the kid is the wrong size, shape or has wrong skill set he will be looked at adversely and in fed they do not have to take them, but if the players good he will be approached to move to the next "big club or team"

get the parents to investigate as much as possible from as many places as possible to find the stuff clubs don't tell you.

[Old Orange]

Sturt has been desperately trying to get in one of the U12 "1" leagues as we have an accomplished team. We were knocked backed because only 8 in each zone could be accomodated. We have now requested being put in now, hopefully this will be agreed and square off the leagues again

[johnydep]

Sturt has been desperately trying to get in one of the U12 "1" leagues as we have an accomplished team. We were knocked backed because only 8 in each zone could be accomodated. We have now requested being put in now, hopefully this will be agreed and square off the leagues again

Better get a move on, the season started last week.

[E. Grant & Co]

why do we need five leagues of 8?

cuda dun 4 leagues of 10

woulda sorted this problem out.......

was led to believe that e&d clubs MUST fill teams in their age before putting in fed clubs otherwise liable to be booted outa e&d

So E&D still use 'black mail' on their member clubs, if you put a team into a FFSA comp you have to have an equivalent age group in their comp?

[GULLY BOYZ]

I think its fair enough if Gawler want to be in both Leagues then a team must be filled to play in EITHER of the leagues you cant have half a team in each can you !!

[Jeda]

I think its fair enough if Gawler want to be in both Leagues then a team must be filled to play in EITHER of the leagues you cant have half a team in each can you !!

yes it's fair enough is it fair to let 105 kids & 310 adults down because that is what Gawler did by waiting 2 weeks before the season start beforepulling out, leaving the league with 7 teams and a bye for the year

[prefly]

get over it and get a life jeda you whinging loser

[Jeda]

get over it and get a life jeda you whinging loser

why, cause u can't handle the truth tell me, which team is it that u support go on tell us

[GULLY BOYZ]

Hey Jeda, was just replying to E Grant & co about his comment about "E&D and black mail " you (from what I can read) are going on about what Gawler (the club ) have done !!! Two different stories mate !!! Was this E&D's idea ???

[prefly]

No because it happened 5 weeks ago mate, I bet every other of the 309 parents have moved on - but you (put that in just for you)

and yep you don’t have to be a rocket scientist

[Jeda]

No because it happened 5 weeks ago mate, I bet every other of the 309 parents have moved on - but you (put that in just for you)

and yep you don’t have to be a rocket scientist

you're definitely no rocket scientist someone made a comment on Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:06 pm being a forum I commented

[Jeda]

Hey Jeda, was just replying to E Grant & co about his comment about "E&D and black mail " you (from what I can read) are going on about what Gawler (the club ) have done !!! Two different stories mate !!! Was this E&D's idea ???

your statement looks like it's defending Gawler "I think its fair enough if Gawler want to be in both Leagues then a team must be filled to play in EITHER of the leagues you cant have half a team in each can you" no you can not hav half a team in each league but i'm sure that whoever is in charge knew months ago that their U12 team wasn't getting any players for a second team
from what i see, E Grant & co was commenting on the statement by robinfriday10 "was led to believe that e&d clubs MUST fill teams in their age before putting in fed clubs otherwise liable to be booted outa e&d" :? is it true

[prefly]

That’s your trouble Jeda you know absolutely nothing about what went on at Gawler so every time you open your mouth more crap comes out. Its not rocket science that I support Gawler; I don’t make any secret out of it. The situation up there has nothing to do with E&D other than players and parents wanting to play in that comp.

I'll tell you again mate, get over it, it’s really not that important and if you think it is then you’re even sadder than I gave you credit for. Concentrate on you’re under 12's hope you win the sheep station and enjoy your bye

[theone]

I've said it before it's a gold mine at Gawler but they need someone to come in and harness all that potential and change the dirdction of the club. Regardless of opinions at this stage the FFSA JPL is the no 1 competition and they need to work on pointing there good kids towards that.

I've seen some good kids out there get them into the U11 and build it from there over the next 6 or so years I belive they have about 400 kids on the books if people work together both sides of the club can work.