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Con M wrote:Loved the delicious irony of the photo in yesterday's "The Age" newspaper showing a workman taking down the Essendon slogan "Whatever It Takes" from the Clubroom wall!
Gold !
Essendon have cheated for years...now the Golden Boy Hird will have to cop it for what his sports scientist & doctor did !
Kick em out...they won't make finals again anyways .

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Obviously you havent been watching how much the umpires hate Essendon.....the only cheats I see are them and those who rig the draw every year.
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Bomber wrote:Obviously you havent been watching how much the umpires hate Essendon.....the only cheats I see are them and those who rig the draw every year.
Did they take performance enhancing drugs?

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Wraith wrote:
Bomber wrote:Obviously you havent been watching how much the umpires hate Essendon.....the only cheats I see are them and those who rig the draw every year.
Did they take performance enhancing drugs?
I dont know - did they?
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Youre the one calling them cheats.

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Wraith wrote:Youre the one calling them cheats.
Why would umpires need drugs to be considered cheats? :?
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ESSENDON coaches took drugs that were banned for players, the former club sports scientist at the centre of the Bombers' drugs crisis claims.
Stephen Dank last night said coaches - whom he did not name - took substances not approved by the World Anti-Doping Agency.
"A couple of coaches were using supplements that were a little bit outside the WADA code but, again, they were entitled to it and nothing illegal in those," Dank said.
In an explosive interview with ABC's 7.30, Dank also claimed head coach James Hird had full knowledge of the players' 2012 supplement regime, now at the centre of a doping authority probe.
Hird declined to respond to Dank's claims.

- BLOOD samples could be sent to Germany as part of the investigation of Essendon's drug controversy.
- THE AFL maintained it could not notify a second club about an alleged rogue doper within its ranks.
Coaches are not bound by the restrictions WADA places on performance-enhancing drugs.
Dank stressed the substances administered to players were all "very, very legal and within the constraints of WADA

Dank stressed last night "all levels" at the club were given regular details of the supplements program.
"There was a collective involvement - you know it wasn't just Steve Dank," he said.
"There was certainly input from people outside myself. There was a very significant involvement from Dean (Robinson) as the high-performance manager, there was detailed discussion with James Hird, there was detailed discussion with the club doctor (Bruce Reid).
"They were sort of the main people involved in the knowledge of the program."

On the coaches' own drug regimes, Dank alleged: "There were some differences in what we offered the coaches. Let's face it, the coaches themselves are not subjected to any WADA code.
"Off the top of my head three, four or five taking vitamin supplements, protein supplements.
"A couple of coaches were using supplements that were a little bit outside the WADA code but again they were entitled to it and nothing illegal in those."

The sports scientist declared his innocence throughout the interview, saying he was a biochemist and supplement programs were regularly used at most top AFL clubs.
He denied injecting players with a banned substance and said he was "very surprised" when the club called a conference announcing it was unaware of what the program involved.
Dank said the only supplements intravenously supplied were Vitamin D and Vitamin C. He denied peptides were injected but said up to four different peptide formulas could have been given to players

"We had a program, it was well documented, it was discussed at all levels throughout the club in terms of what the supplements were and the regime and dosages, and what time of the day or week you know," he said.
Dank runs two other rejuvenation clinics in Victoria and NSW that he said ran programs separate to his work with elite football teams.
A substance known as GHRP-6 or peptide 6 - listed on Mr Dank's clinic website - is a human growth hormone banned by the Australian Anti-Doping Authority of Australia.
Dank admitted selling the substance but denied it was used on elite athletes. He also rejected links with criminal gangs.


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Who cares what the coaches took, they're not players!!
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God is an Englishman wrote:Who cares what the coaches took, they're not players!!
No wonder Bomber Thompson was always munching out and spilling coke in the coaches box! :lol:
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Petro83 wrote:
Thank you JAY WALKING.

Port power 15 years historu
Crows 22 years history.

always rememer the power killed the magpies :)
you are so wrong its not even funny, go do some research then admit you are wrong
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DOC wrote:
Petro83 wrote:
Thank you JAY WALKING.

Port power 15 years historu
Crows 22 years history.

always rememer the power killed the magpies :)
you are so wrong its not even funny, go do some research then admit you are wrong
I can't find any stories on google about Port Power prior to 1995.

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Bacon888 wrote:
DOC wrote:
Petro83 wrote:
Thank you JAY WALKING.

Port power 15 years historu
Crows 22 years history.

always rememer the power killed the magpies :)
you are so wrong its not even funny, go do some research then admit you are wrong
I can't find any stories on google about Port Power prior to 1995.
to summarise, the magpies were given the license in 95, but had to pick a new name because of coliingwood, this was a stipulation, the magpies wanted to enter the afl and leave the sanfl, the sanfl, being greedy, would have have this, and were worried that an sanfl comp without the power may fail and they may face hefty financial losses, the made the power formulate a new magpies side as a separate entity to play in the sanfl, even made them train away from alberton

so technically the side in the afl has all the history, it just underwent a forced name change
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if its the asada tests then yes players could get 2 years, either for illicit or performance enhancing drugs

30 players to be named and shamed aparently, majority at essendon

a few league sides under review as well

just waiting for this to be finished for both the nrl and afl to announce massive new drug testing policies as both don't test for performance enhancing drugs and they use outdated methods
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Either way.... Essendons reputation is now in the toilet.

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Wraith wrote:Either way.... Essendons reputation is now in the toilet.
i think a few players may be pissed at them now, might lose their strike :lol: :lol:
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wow this has gone out of control now. A self-confession by Essendon that something wasn't right has the whole league as well as NRL on edge :lol:

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nothing to do with the crime commission findings then. You're a nation of drug cheats and it's out in the open. This is bigger than nrl and afl.
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God is an Englishman wrote:nothing to do with the crime commission findings then. You're a nation of drug cheats and it's out in the open. This is bigger than nrl and afl.

And no matter what, you'll hang your hat on that theory every time we beat you at something from now on too.
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:nothing to do with the crime commission findings then. You're a nation of drug cheats and it's out in the open. This is bigger than nrl and afl.

And no matter what, you'll hang your hat on that theory every time we beat you at something from now on too.

Well you're a nation of drug cheats, so the question will always be raised. Not that often that you beat us these days anyway.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:nothing to do with the crime commission findings then. You're a nation of drug cheats and it's out in the open. This is bigger than nrl and afl.

And no matter what, you'll hang your hat on that theory every time we beat you at something from now on too.

Well you're a nation of drug cheats, so the question will always be raised. Not that often that you beat us these days anyway.
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The possibility of a handful of individuals is suddenly "a nation". What nationality is Rio Ferdinand? And Dwain Chambers?
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speaking of rio, is he not a drug cheat? therefore can we name label all english footballers drug cheats?
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DOC wrote:speaking of rio, is he not a drug cheat? therefore can we name label all english footballers drug cheats?

I don't remember our crime commission stating that drugs in sport had reached epidemic proportions.

Similar to lance armstrong - he never produced a positive sample.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
DOC wrote:speaking of rio, is he not a drug cheat? therefore can we name label all english footballers drug cheats?

I don't remember our crime commission stating that drugs in sport had reached epidemic proportions.

Similar to lance armstrong - he never produced a positive sample.
I'm sure if you looked in many ritzy club sat night after a win you would find footballers on the charlie
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DOC wrote:
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DOC wrote:speaking of rio, is he not a drug cheat? therefore can we name label all english footballers drug cheats?

I don't remember our crime commission stating that drugs in sport had reached epidemic proportions.

Similar to lance armstrong - he never produced a positive sample.
I'm sure if you looked in many ritzy club sat night after a win you would find footballers on the charlie

more than likely, but that's still not a positive drug test.
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in the epl would a positive test for recreation drugs give a 2 year ban?
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DOC wrote:in the epl would a positive test for recreation drugs give a 2 year ban?

yes, i believe so. How long did bosnich get?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
DOC wrote:in the epl would a positive test for recreation drugs give a 2 year ban?

yes, i believe so. How long did bosnich get?
mutu got a while, bosnich may have gotten 18 months? not exactly sure as chelsea sacked them both

i was insinuating that if a drugs official went into the clubs more than a few would get cought
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God is an Englishman wrote:
DOC wrote:speaking of rio, is he not a drug cheat? therefore can we name label all english footballers drug cheats?
I don't remember our crime commission stating that drugs in sport had reached epidemic proportions.
It says nothing of the sort.
Widespread use of these substances has been identified, or is suspected by the ACC, in a number of professional sporting codes in Australia.
So they are making suspicions, and not findings on some.

Being suspected of it doesn't make you guilty of it.

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