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Remember them? Why were they done away with?
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First Yellow Card wrote:Remember them? Why were they done away with?
Redundant, cost cutting...besides, there was already a line delineating half way !
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Plus during riots it was usually the first piece of equipment the offenders would grab hold of. :wink:
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they were never done away with, they were just never a requirement for the field of play. They can still be used if your clubs decides to use them.
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yeah ive seen them still used sometimes. but they have to be a metre back from the pitch.

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Red-4-Life wrote:they have to be a metre back from the pitch.


Correct, well I think it might be a yard but close enough.
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Hawkesy wrote:
Red-4-Life wrote:they have to be a metre back from the pitch.


Correct, well I think it might be a yard but close enough.
yeah a yard would most likely be correct, as the boxes are measure in yards and so on...

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Red-4-Life wrote:
Hawkesy wrote:
Red-4-Life wrote:they have to be a metre back from the pitch.


Correct, well I think it might be a yard but close enough.
yeah a yard would most likely be correct, as the boxes are measure in yards and so on...

corner arcs are allowed to 1y or 1m.
The laws provide measurements in metric and imperial but obviously we know it as a 6 yard box rather than a 5.13m (??) box.
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Many of the English background clubs still use flag posts at the half way line.
They help you get your bearings sometimes, especially in the wet weather.
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I think cumberland still uses them...?

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Is the corner flag still necessary?
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Drusetta wrote:Is the corner flag still necessary?
cant play without them

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Red-4-Life wrote:
Drusetta wrote:Is the corner flag still necessary?
cant play without them
according to the laws of the game correct, but would you really abandon a game because they weren't there. Law 19 is the most important one in the laws.
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I should've explained. I know corner flags are in the rules, and that they must be at least 5ft high. My question was more philosophical.

Would you cancel a game if corner flags were 4 ft high?

I just wonder what practical purpose they really serve in today's game. Especially with most grounds being fenced: the fence provides a point of reference.
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[/quote] according to the laws of the game correct, but would you really abandon a game because they weren't there. Law 19 is the most important one in the laws.[/quote]

that would be the law of common sense. Isn't it rule 18?

I remember when Piere Luigi Collina in Serie A made both teams NOT change ends at half time because he feared their safety from fans behind the goal. As a result, the game went ahead. He was applauded for his ingenuity!
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Drusetta wrote:I should've explained. I know corner flags are in the rules, and that they must be at least 5ft high. My question was more philosophical.

Would you cancel a game if corner flags were 4 ft high?

I just wonder what practical purpose they really serve in today's game. Especially with most grounds being fenced: the fence provides a point of reference.

if they were 4ft, i would probably remove them because at that height they are a danger. I would just play without them.
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Hawkesy wrote:if they were 4ft, i would probably remove them because at that height they are a danger. I would just play without them.
They're only dangerous when John Carew kicks them into the crowd. How taking a shirt off is worthy of a yellow and that could go unpunished is beyond me.
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First Yellow Card wrote:
Hawkesy wrote:if they were 4ft, i would probably remove them because at that height they are a danger. I would just play without them.
They're only dangerous when John Carew kicks them into the crowd. How taking a shirt off is worthy of a yellow and that could go unpunished is beyond me.

I agree. I still dont really see why taking the shirt off warrants a yellow. I reckon a team should be allowed to celebrate a goal, for, say 60 seconds, then if you are still busy doing that, the ref should be allowed to let the opponent take the re-start/kick off, whether they (team that just scored) are ready or not.
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Bomber wrote:I agree. I still dont really see why taking the shirt off warrants a yellow. I reckon a team should be allowed to celebrate a goal, for, say 60 seconds, then if you are still busy doing that, the ref should be allowed to let the opponent take the re-start/kick off, whether they (team that just scored) are ready or not.
I think it because players had (political/offensive) messages under their shirts at one stage.

For a re-start a team doesn't have to be ready, just in their own half. Just ask Hans Jörg Butt.
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First Yellow Card wrote:
Bomber wrote:I agree. I still dont really see why taking the shirt off warrants a yellow. I reckon a team should be allowed to celebrate a goal, for, say 60 seconds, then if you are still busy doing that, the ref should be allowed to let the opponent take the re-start/kick off, whether they (team that just scored) are ready or not.
I think it because players had (political/offensive) messages under their shirts at one stage.

For a re-start a team doesn't have to be ready, just in their own half. Just ask Hans Jörg Butt.

Last game of season when Croydon won at Pirates to win PL in 2007, players were still celebrating second goal (approx 5 mins to go, 2-0 up) and ref allowed Pirates to kick off well before all the players were back in their own half. Would have spewed if it cost us, but didnt, and after were too busy celebrating premiership to worry about it, but when things settled, we wondered, "what if?".
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Bomber wrote:
First Yellow Card wrote:
Bomber wrote:I agree. I still dont really see why taking the shirt off warrants a yellow. I reckon a team should be allowed to celebrate a goal, for, say 60 seconds, then if you are still busy doing that, the ref should be allowed to let the opponent take the re-start/kick off, whether they (team that just scored) are ready or not.
I think it because players had (political/offensive) messages under their shirts at one stage.

For a re-start a team doesn't have to be ready, just in their own half. Just ask Hans Jörg Butt.

Last game of season when Croydon won at Pirates to win PL in 2007, players were still celebrating second goal (approx 5 mins to go, 2-0 up) and ref allowed Pirates to kick off well before all the players were back in their own half. Would have spewed if it cost us, but didnt, and after were too busy celebrating premiership to worry about it, but when things settled, we wondered, "what if?".
Same thing happened to ABE in the 1996 grand final against White City. We were celebrating our 4th goal in our own half in front of our bench, White City kicked off and scored.
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Difference in the Croydon v Pirates game I referred to, the majority Croydon players were not back in their own half at all, apart from maybe two or three players. Was actually surprised that they still managed to scramble the ball away to safety in the end.
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Bomber wrote:Difference in the Croydon v Pirates game I referred to, the majority Croydon players were not back in their own half at all, apart from maybe two or three players. Was actually surprised that they still managed to scramble the ball away to safety in the end.
Well if that is the case Bomber, the referee should have never re-started the game. All the players must be in their half before the kick off is allowed.
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SILENT P wrote:
Bomber wrote:Difference in the Croydon v Pirates game I referred to, the majority Croydon players were not back in their own half at all, apart from maybe two or three players. Was actually surprised that they still managed to scramble the ball away to safety in the end.
Well if that is the case Bomber, the referee should have never re-started the game. All the players must be in their half before the kick off is allowed.

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couple of years ago Millwall v sheff wed. Millwall scored and players celebrate going 1 nil up. Ref disallowes goal, and SW take a free kick while 9 Millwall are by the corner flag. SW scored, we lost 1-0.

End of the season, Millwall were relegated by a point to SW.
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Hawkesy wrote:couple of years ago Millwall v sheff wed. Millwall scored and players celebrate going 1 nil up. Ref disallowes goal, and SW take a free kick while 9 Millwall are by the corner flag. SW scored, we lost 1-0.

End of the season, Millwall were relegated by a point to SW.
Difference there is that no actual game laws were broken. Not really in the spirit of the game, but technically, ref did no wrong. Plus seeing it was Millwall, maybe he did it VERY correctly! :wink:
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Bomber wrote:Not really in the spirit of the game
Yes it is, play the whistle.
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Funny thing is NETS are optional ... Straight from the FIFA Laws of the Game.

Nets may be attached to the goals and the ground behind the goal, provided that they are properly supported and do not
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That's because the LOTG are designed to be applicable to all levels of the game, including grass roots levels in poor nations with don't have access to facilities such as nets.
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Apparently,in the English FA competition,only clubs that have won the FA Cup are allowed to have flags at the halfway line.

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