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Well its now official. Big mouthed, arrogant cheating champagne is the verdict. Too harsh?


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 Post subject: Re: Aussie cricket 'culture' review
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How much did it cost them to be told what non australian cricket fans have been saying for years.

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Win at all costs mentality got to them. That will change as the current mob don't look like winning in a while. Eventually they'll go back to being "uncompromising" (with some limitations) and they'll slowly bounce back. I'll give them 2 years of being crap before things get better.

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Win at all costs mentality got to them. That will change as the current mob don't look like winning in a while. Eventually they'll go back to being "uncompromising" (with some limitations) and they'll slowly bounce back. I'll give them 2 years of being crap before things get better.


There's already calls to release the 3 of them from their bans. Win at all costs is still alive.

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Win at all costs mentality got to them. That will change as the current mob don't look like winning in a while. Eventually they'll go back to being "uncompromising" (with some limitations) and they'll slowly bounce back. I'll give them 2 years of being crap before things get better.


There's already calls to release the 3 of them from their bans. Win at all costs is still alive.



ban was too lengthy to begin win. Warner should NEVER return to wear the baggy green!

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Win at all costs mentality got to them. That will change as the current mob don't look like winning in a while. Eventually they'll go back to being "uncompromising" (with some limitations) and they'll slowly bounce back. I'll give them 2 years of being crap before things get better.


There's already calls to release the 3 of them from their bans. Win at all costs is still alive.


"Calls" only by those who could see others got away with much less for similar offences. I still say the 12 months should stand (as they will), but also same should apply to anyone else found guilty moving forward.

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Win at all costs mentality got to them. That will change as the current mob don't look like winning in a while. Eventually they'll go back to being "uncompromising" (with some limitations) and they'll slowly bounce back. I'll give them 2 years of being crap before things get better.


There's already calls to release the 3 of them from their bans. Win at all costs is still alive.


"Calls" only by those who could see others got away with much less for similar offences. I still say the 12 months should stand (as they will), but also same should apply to anyone else found guilty moving forward.


I agree 12 month bans should be the norm, if only some other countries and ICC had issued heavy penalties in the past.


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"Calls" only by those who could see others got away with much less for similar offences. I still say the 12 months should stand (as they will), but also same should apply to anyone else found guilty moving forward.


All of the other proven instances could be put down to one person being a cheat. This was corruption by the "senior" players to cheat. There was no precedent for this.

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Win at all costs mentality got to them. That will change as the current mob don't look like winning in a while. Eventually they'll go back to being "uncompromising" (with some limitations) and they'll slowly bounce back. I'll give them 2 years of being crap before things get better.


There's already calls to release the 3 of them from their bans. Win at all costs is still alive.



ban was too lengthy to begin win. Warner should NEVER return to wear the baggy green!


The 2nd part we can agree on

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I agree 12 month bans should be the norm, if only some other countries and ICC had issued heavy penalties in the past.


I was shocked they got so long, especially after Australia's history of covering things up or giving short bans.

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Just seen Rod Marsh saying that the ball tampering wasn't entirely the players faults and as such they should have their bans lifted. :lol:

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Just seen Rod Marsh saying that the ball tampering wasn't entirely the players faults and as such they should have their bans lifted. :lol:


I used to have a lot of respect for Rod Marsh.

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Just seen Rod Marsh saying that the ball tampering wasn't entirely the players faults and as such they should have their bans lifted. :lol:


I used to have a lot of respect for Rod Marsh.


I didn't.

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Just seen Rod Marsh saying that the ball tampering wasn't entirely the players faults and as such they should have their bans lifted. :lol:


I used to have a lot of respect for Rod Marsh.


I didn't.


So when he recalled Randall when given out in the centenary test, you didn't respect that? Or when he tried to tell Greg Chappell, "nah mate" just before the underarm?
Maybe you're too young to remember, but history should be one of your better subjects.
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So when he recalled Randall when given out in the centenary test, you didn't respect that? Or when he tried to tell Greg Chappell, "nah mate" just before the underarm?
Maybe you're too young to remember, but history should be one of your better subjects.
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I know of both of those incidents but the first dealings I knew of was when he came in to coach at the academy, he was useless.

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So when he recalled Randall when given out in the centenary test, you didn't respect that? Or when he tried to tell Greg Chappell, "nah mate" just before the underarm?
Maybe you're too young to remember, but history should be one of your better subjects.
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I know of both of those incidents but the first dealings I knew of was when he came in to coach at the academy, he was useless.



just like the pom batsmen in the 2013/14 ashes test

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Bomber wrote:

So when he recalled Randall when given out in the centenary test, you didn't respect that? Or when he tried to tell Greg Chappell, "nah mate" just before the underarm?
Maybe you're too young to remember, but history should be one of your better subjects.
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I know of both of those incidents but the first dealings I knew of was when he came in to coach at the academy, he was useless.



just like the pom batsmen in the 2013/14 ashes test



No, the poms win in 13/14, are you thinking of 10/11 when England won easily?

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Been a long while since england ever won "easily" - around '78/79 when WSC started and best of our team went there leaving some second graders to play ashes.

5-0 drubbings by Australia however............. :)

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Been a long while since england ever won "easily" - around '78/79 when WSC started and best of our team went there leaving some second graders to play ashes.

5-0 drubbings by Australia however............. :)


2010/11 - England won 3-1

3 wins by an innings and the drawn game had a 517-1. EASY.

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Been a long while since england ever won "easily" - around '78/79 when WSC started and best of our team went there leaving some second graders to play ashes.

5-0 drubbings by Australia however............. :)


2010/11 - England won 3-1

3 wins by an innings and the drawn game had a 517-1. EASY.


Meh, come back to me when you can manage a 5-0 - a PROPER thrashing! I'll even give you a 4-0 if/when you can manage one and I know your best chance might be the next series

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3 games by an innings. EASY.

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3 games by an innings. EASY.


5-0's and 4-0's : EASIER!

3-1 is a solid win at best

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3 games by an innings. EASY.


5-0's and 4-0's : EASIER!

3-1 is a solid win at best


Do you actually watch cricket?

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3 games by an innings. EASY.


5-0's and 4-0's : EASIER!

3-1 is a solid win at best


Do you actually watch cricket?


Yes, and with both eyes open. You should try it some time.

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I'm not convinced you do if you think winning 3 games in a series by an innings wasn't an easy win.

You could win 5-0 and each win by a run or a wicket and it would be easy? By an innings- easy.

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You could win 5-0 and each win by a run or a wicket and it would be easy.


Finally, the penny drops.

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You could win 5-0 and each win by a run or a wicket and it would be easy.


Finally, the penny drops.



You agree with that? I've now added the question mark.

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You could win 5-0 and each win by a run or a wicket and it would be easy.


Finally, the penny drops.



You agree with that? I've now added the question mark.


Oh dear, poor punctuation as well now.

You must like staying in after class.

2-1 down with only one test to go, could have been a massive change from result of one test.

Whereas 5-0................well, fat lady was singing with weeks to spare. :)

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Oh dear, poor punctuation as well now.

You must like staying in after class.

2-1 down with only one test to go, could have been a massive change from result of one test.

Whereas 5-0................well, fat lady was singing with weeks to spare. :)



so you thinking winning by a run would be an easy win. :lol:

Come on, you're not even trying.

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Oh dear, poor punctuation as well now.

You must like staying in after class.

2-1 down with only one test to go, could have been a massive change from result of one test.

Whereas 5-0................well, fat lady was singing with weeks to spare. :)



so you thinking winning by a run would be an easy win. :lol:

Come on, you're not even trying.


I don't have to try when its so simple - with one test to go, the series was in the balance - hardly "easy".

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