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 Post subject: Ange QUITS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:54 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Bye for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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I wonder if Gus is available. We need someone that understands Australian football. Or there could be some-one out there from the nations missing out. Coleman from Wales or O'Neil?
This will be a massive job with no games coming soon. Has Australia replaced Gombau yet. A bit of a crisis period in Aus football coming up. Arnold has been there and not done well. Forget him.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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I wonder if Gus is available. We need someone that understands Australian football. Or there could be some-one out there from the nations missing out. Coleman from Wales or O'Neil?
This will be a massive job with no games coming soon. Has Australia replaced Gombau yet. A bit of a crisis period in Aus football coming up. Arnold has been there and not done well. Forget him.


To be fair, I think Arnold has improved a hell of a lot more as a coach since his last stint at the helm.

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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eagleboy wrote:
I wonder if Gus is available. We need someone that understands Australian football. Or there could be some-one out there from the nations missing out. Coleman from Wales or O'Neil?
This will be a massive job with no games coming soon. Has Australia replaced Gombau yet. A bit of a crisis period in Aus football coming up. Arnold has been there and not done well. Forget him.


Coleman just took up the Sunderland job.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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i think overall Ange has done a good job, will be forever remembered for winning this countries first Asian Cup, good luck Ange and please FFA do not give the job to Arnie.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Slinky_Pete wrote:
eagleboy wrote:
I wonder if Gus is available. We need someone that understands Australian football. Or there could be some-one out there from the nations missing out. Coleman from Wales or O'Neil?
This will be a massive job with no games coming soon. Has Australia replaced Gombau yet. A bit of a crisis period in Aus football coming up. Arnold has been there and not done well. Forget him.


Coleman just took up the Sunderland job.


Well he could be availabed pretty soon then.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Sad to see the great man gone. He is the greatest coach our country has ever produced.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Need to get a foreigner in who understands the australian game and had some success with it.

Kevin Muscat would be ideal

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Need to get a foreigner in who understands the australian game and had some success with it.

Kevin Muscat would be ideal


That's a really bad call.

He would really struggle at international level as he wouldn't have the advantage of the biggest budget in the league nor the benefit of ongoing support from the match officials.

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Should be someone with the appropriate status for the job. Neil Warnock is currently busy but I reckon Steve McClaren is free atm.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Would he try faking an Aussie accent like he did the Dutch one?


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Given the record of the FFA's decision making of late they'll probably give the job to Tim Cahill, given he's got overseas and Australian experience. :oops:

Pity he hasn't got a coaching licence - but they could rush him through one - after all he is the 'Great Australian Hero'. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Ange has left on a high....can ask for a bucketload of money to coach overseas....if he stays for the World cup and we dont do well, his value plummets. Shrewed operator...a prick for The Aussies....The person to take over is in no mans land


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Am i the only one who thinks Ange has screwed his country? He took the role saying something Along the lines of coaching his country is the biggest honour anyone can have then leaves for whatever reason without staying the course?

This has left our national team in a bad situation. How can anyone else coming in get to know the players without anymore ‘real’ matches till the World Cup?

Another thing to note is he put out the ‘word’ of quiting BEFORE the crucial playoff match that could of easily destabilised the team before such an important match,is this not unprofessional and selfish ?

To me he deserted his country in time of need and for that I have lost respect for him.. am I seeing this situation incorrectly ?

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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You need to buy a vowel.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Kosta Utd wrote:
Am i the only one who thinks Ange has screwed his country? He took the role saying something Along the lines of coaching his country is the biggest honour anyone can have then leaves for whatever reason without staying the course?

This has left our national team in a bad situation. How can anyone else coming in get to know the players without anymore ‘real’ matches till the World Cup?

Another thing to note is he put out the ‘word’ of quiting BEFORE the crucial playoff match that could of easily destabilised the team before such an important match,is this not unprofessional and selfish ?

To me he deserted his country in time of need and for that I have lost respect for him.. am I seeing this situation incorrectly ?


Not sure I agree with you
Made some tough / suitable changes sweeping the broom through the change room and replaces some old hacks with kids who embrace his coaching philosophy / dream.

The way I view it is he introduced a list of players (young) and although goals are not coming freely there seems to be more scope to score goals if the players honed their abilities.

The team seems raw but exciting and not as predictable which is what may be a good thing for World Cup.

The decision to exit is poor timing however the amount of unnecessary media attention and his jealous peers wouldn't have made it easy to be motivated.

The cash cow dangles an opportunity and why wouldn't he take it?

Cuts his teeth In another role and rewarded financially might be his nest egg before he retires to his family.

Might be a good thing with a new coach who has 6months to make the difference and the "raw" talent to play / train out of their skins during this period might just make the difference.

Change is as good as a holiday.


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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The Shape wrote:
Kosta Utd wrote:
Am i the only one who thinks Ange has screwed his country? He took the role saying something Along the lines of coaching his country is the biggest honour anyone can have then leaves for whatever reason without staying the course?

This has left our national team in a bad situation. How can anyone else coming in get to know the players without anymore ‘real’ matches till the World Cup?

Another thing to note is he put out the ‘word’ of quiting BEFORE the crucial playoff match that could of easily destabilised the team before such an important match,is this not unprofessional and selfish ?

To me he deserted his country in time of need and for that I have lost respect for him.. am I seeing this situation incorrectly ?


Not sure I agree with you
Made some tough / suitable changes sweeping the broom through the change room and replaces some old hacks with kids who embrace his coaching philosophy / dream.

The way I view it is he introduced a list of players (young) and although goals are not coming freely there seems to be more scope to score goals if the players honed their abilities.

The team seems raw but exciting and not as predictable which is what may be a good thing for World Cup.

The decision to exit is poor timing however the amount of unnecessary media attention and his jealous peers wouldn't have made it easy to be motivated.

The cash cow dangles an opportunity and why wouldn't he take it?

Cuts his teeth In another role and rewarded financially might be his nest egg before he retires to his family.

Might be a good thing with a new coach who has 6months to make the difference and the "raw" talent to play / train out of their skins during this period might just make the difference.

Change is as good as a holiday.


Time will tell.


Are you suggesting that he deserted his country to chase money?

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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He persevered with 3 across the back, which you can only perfected if you are practicing it 5 days a week and adjusting it every game....not when u get together for a 4 day camp every 6 months. Its club Football stuff...not National team ideology


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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Brian the Postman wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Need to get a foreigner in who understands the australian game and had some success with it.

Kevin Muscat would be ideal


That's a really bad call.

He would really struggle at international level as he wouldn't have the advantage of the biggest budget in the league nor the benefit of ongoing support from the match officials.


Spoken like a true AUFF season ticket holder


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Need to get a foreigner in who understands the australian game and had some success with it.

Kevin Muscat would be ideal


That's a really bad call.

He would really struggle at international level as he wouldn't have the advantage of the biggest budget in the league nor the benefit of ongoing support from the match officials.


Spoken like a true AUFF season ticket holder

I take it you have put your hat into the ring for the job.

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 Post subject: Re: Ange QUITS
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Grosso will wait see if the FFA board is replaced first.


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It shows more how the FFA messed up.
His contract was only til the end of the qualifying rounds.
He fulfilled his contract and has now moved on.
Had he not qualified he would’ve been sacked, purely on media pressure.
Perhaps the FFS should look st the contract so they can’t walk away once qualified !


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It shows more how the FFA messed up.
His contract was only til the end of the qualifying rounds.
He fulfilled his contract and has now moved on.
Had he not qualified he would’ve been sacked, purely on media pressure.
Perhaps the FFS should look st the contract so they can’t walk away once qualified !


Are you sure about that?

You can't resign if you don't have a contract

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tis a great day


You think a new coach is going to be able to teach Milligan how to pass a 5 m ball ?

The players are technical uncos.


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Kosta Utd wrote:
Am i the only one who thinks Ange has screwed his country? He took the role saying something Along the lines of coaching his country is the biggest honour anyone can have then leaves for whatever reason without staying the course?

This has left our national team in a bad situation. How can anyone else coming in get to know the players without anymore ‘real’ matches till the World Cup?

Another thing to note is he put out the ‘word’ of quiting BEFORE the crucial playoff match that could of easily destabilised the team before such an important match,is this not unprofessional and selfish ?

To me he deserted his country in time of need and for that I have lost respect for him.. am I seeing this situation incorrectly ?


And if australia do poorly? Is is the coach's fault or the fact the players have no technical ability? Or is the coach's fault that a 28 year football player has no technical ability?


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The_Pessimist wrote:
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You think a new coach is going to be able to teach Milligan how to pass a 5 m ball ?

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Probably not when they get this level, but he might select a different player that just might be able to.


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The_Pessimist wrote:
Kosta Utd wrote:
Am i the only one who thinks Ange has screwed his country? He took the role saying something Along the lines of coaching his country is the biggest honour anyone can have then leaves for whatever reason without staying the course?

This has left our national team in a bad situation. How can anyone else coming in get to know the players without anymore ‘real’ matches till the World Cup?

Another thing to note is he put out the ‘word’ of quiting BEFORE the crucial playoff match that could of easily destabilised the team before such an important match,is this not unprofessional and selfish ?

To me he deserted his country in time of need and for that I have lost respect for him.. am I seeing this situation incorrectly ?


And if australia do poorly? Is is the coach's fault or the fact the players have no technical ability? Or is the coach's fault that a 28 year football player has no technical ability?


Wouldn't he have been their coach when they were in the Australian U17s & U20s. When they were still coachable.


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Kosta Utd wrote:
Am i the only one who thinks Ange has screwed his country? He took the role saying something Along the lines of coaching his country is the biggest honour anyone can have then leaves for whatever reason without staying the course?

This has left our national team in a bad situation. How can anyone else coming in get to know the players without anymore ‘real’ matches till the World Cup?

Another thing to note is he put out the ‘word’ of quiting BEFORE the crucial playoff match that could of easily destabilised the team before such an important match,is this not unprofessional and selfish ?

To me he deserted his country in time of need and for that I have lost respect for him.. am I seeing this situation incorrectly ?


I'm just getting tired of all this "family reasons" crap, not just from Ange, but anyone who plays the same record.

Coaching at this level is a profession. You know what comes with it and its demands.

We all would love to spend more time with our family! God help those who serve us in the defence forces that have to leave their loved ones for much longer than a couple weeks or so.

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