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Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:41 am
by Bomber
Love this continual "coward" reference to Bradman. Have a chat to Jeff Thomson, world's fastest and probably most ever feared bowler when Bradman duly accepted an invite from Thommo to bowl him a couple of overs. Don was in his suit, took his jacket and tie off only, no pads, no gloves, no other padding protection and the bloke (in his late 60's or early 70's at the time) proceeded to smash Thommo around the park. Yes, the first couple balls Thommo sent down were tame as he thought "I better not kill the old bugger" but then he ramped things up, and the Don continued to hit him to all parts - about 20-25 years after he played his last competitive match.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:54 am
by God is an Englishman
Why was he so scared of Larwood that he refused to play then?

Why was the whole idea of fast leg theory devised after watching Bradman back away from quick bowling, prompting Jardine to say - "he's yellow".

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:53 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:Why was he so scared of Larwood that he refused to play then?

Why was the whole idea of fast leg theory devised after watching Bradman back away from quick bowling, prompting Jardine to say - "he's yellow".
Who said he was scared of Larwood? If he chose to make a stand about leg theory, then good. No different to the Kiwis making a stand about underarm bowling.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Why was he so scared of Larwood that he refused to play then?

Why was the whole idea of fast leg theory devised after watching Bradman back away from quick bowling, prompting Jardine to say - "he's yellow".
Who said he was scared of Larwood? If he chose to make a stand about leg theory, then good. No different to the Kiwis making a stand about underarm bowling.
A stand against leg theory by running away from the 1st test. Was it the 2nd as well?

Did he make the same stand against it when the Victorians had already used it in a shield match?

Leg theory wasn't being used in the game when Jardine saw he was "yellow".

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:26 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Why was he so scared of Larwood that he refused to play then?

Why was the whole idea of fast leg theory devised after watching Bradman back away from quick bowling, prompting Jardine to say - "he's yellow".
Who said he was scared of Larwood? If he chose to make a stand about leg theory, then good. No different to the Kiwis making a stand about underarm bowling.
A stand against leg theory by running away from the 1st test. Was it the 2nd as well?

Did he make the same stand against it when the Victorians had already used it in a shield match?

Leg theory wasn't being used in the game when Jardine saw he was "yellow".
So backing away from a delivery makes one yellow. You're nuttier than he was. Any comment about facing Thommo without pads, gloves etc, who would have been a far quicker bowler? Would you have done similar?

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:36 pm
by Delete Your Account
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Why was he so scared of Larwood that he refused to play then?

Why was the whole idea of fast leg theory devised after watching Bradman back away from quick bowling, prompting Jardine to say - "he's yellow".
Who said he was scared of Larwood? If he chose to make a stand about leg theory, then good. No different to the Kiwis making a stand about underarm bowling.
A stand against leg theory by running away from the 1st test. Was it the 2nd as well?

Did he make the same stand against it when the Victorians had already used it in a shield match?

Leg theory wasn't being used in the game when Jardine saw he was "yellow".
Maybe "yellow" was a reference to his eye shape.

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Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:34 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
So backing away from a delivery makes one yellow. You're nuttier than he was. Any comment about facing Thommo without pads, gloves etc, who would have been a far quicker bowler? Would you have done similar?
Other Aussies in that series were happy to try to pull and hook, Bradman wasn't. He even pulled out of games.

I don't think I'd face him without pads but then again I'm not as good as he was. However, I've faced faster than him with pads and gloves on.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:19 am
by ozzie owl
52 Tests

6,996 runs at 99.94 on uncovered wickets with very little protection, light bats and no helmets, I'd take that any time of day.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:23 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
So backing away from a delivery makes one yellow. You're nuttier than he was. Any comment about facing Thommo without pads, gloves etc, who would have been a far quicker bowler? Would you have done similar?
Other Aussies in that series were happy to try to pull and hook, Bradman wasn't. He even pulled out of games.

I don't think I'd face him without pads but then again I'm not as good as he was. However, I've faced faster than him with pads and gloves on.
Faster than him? I doubt there ever was anyone faster than him but whilst I acknowledge that can never likely be proven, I'll take the word of the players who played in his era who are still around today.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:33 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
So backing away from a delivery makes one yellow. You're nuttier than he was. Any comment about facing Thommo without pads, gloves etc, who would have been a far quicker bowler? Would you have done similar?
Other Aussies in that series were happy to try to pull and hook, Bradman wasn't. He even pulled out of games.

I don't think I'd face him without pads but then again I'm not as good as he was. However, I've faced faster than him with pads and gloves on.
Faster than him? I doubt there ever was anyone faster than him but whilst I acknowledge that can never likely be proven, I'll take the word of the players who played in his era who are still around today.
I thought general consensus had Tait as faster.

I should rephrase though, I've faves someone who bowls faster than him.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:43 am
by Bomber
Maybe ask Rod Marsh, he'd be a good judge having kept to one and coached/assessed the other. Still say Thommo was quicker and more lethal (maybe ask Edrich, Titmus, Cowdrey as well whilst you're at it). :wink:

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:54 am
by ozzie owl
Bomber wrote:Maybe ask Rod Marsh, he'd be a good judge having kept to one and coached/assessed the other. Still say Thommo was quicker and more lethal (maybe ask Edrich, Titmus, Cowdrey as well whilst you're at it). :wink:
Maybe add Boycott to your list Bomber as he refused to tour in 1974/75 :wink:

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:02 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:Maybe ask Rod Marsh, he'd be a good judge having kept to one and coached/assessed the other. Still say Thommo was quicker and more lethal (maybe ask Edrich, Titmus, Cowdrey as well whilst you're at it). :wink:
Do you have their phone numbers?

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:06 am
by God is an Englishman
ozzie owl wrote:
Bomber wrote:Maybe ask Rod Marsh, he'd be a good judge having kept to one and coached/assessed the other. Still say Thommo was quicker and more lethal (maybe ask Edrich, Titmus, Cowdrey as well whilst you're at it). :wink:
Maybe add Boycott to your list Bomber as he refused to tour in 1974/75 :wink:
You make it seem like he refused just that your and because of tommo.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:43 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Maybe ask Rod Marsh, he'd be a good judge having kept to one and coached/assessed the other. Still say Thommo was quicker and more lethal (maybe ask Edrich, Titmus, Cowdrey as well whilst you're at it). :wink:
Do you have their phone numbers?
One of them, but he asked not to share it around. The Englishmen I mentioned, I'm sure you could look up history of the 74/75 tour and come up with answers that may assist. :)

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:48 pm
by Bomber
Back on topic, I only just found out that Hodge won the toss and chose to bat first in the SF last night. Silly decision!

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:21 pm
by Nonami Maho
Everyone is an expert in hindsight.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:27 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Maybe ask Rod Marsh, he'd be a good judge having kept to one and coached/assessed the other. Still say Thommo was quicker and more lethal (maybe ask Edrich, Titmus, Cowdrey as well whilst you're at it). :wink:
Do you have their phone numbers?
One of them, but he asked not to share it around. The Englishmen I mentioned, I'm sure you could look up history of the 74/75 tour and come up with answers that may assist. :)
How will they be able to confirm if they've not faced the other person?

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:39 pm
by Bomber
If you check, I'm sure they will answer assuredly without having needed to.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:34 pm
by Stig Inge Bjørnebye
Who won last night?

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:03 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:If you check, I'm sure they will answer assuredly without having needed to.
Couldn't really trust the answer then. It would be like reading the world records from 1974 and assuming they were all current

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:32 am
by Jílín Shěng
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:If you check, I'm sure they will answer assuredly without having needed to.
Couldn't really trust the answer then. It would be like reading the world records from 1974 and assuming they were all current
They were all current... in 1974.

Re: Big Bash 2015/2016

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:17 am
by Jílín Shěng
Perth not in the final for the first time.