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 Post subject: Man United's Red Card
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:03 am 
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Rafael should have been off too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN2TB2PaGac

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:08 am 
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lol since when is ball to hand a deliberate handball? he was 30cm away from him lol


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:20 am 
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lol since when is ball to hand a deliberate handball? he was 30cm away from him lol



So you can stick your arms out and as long as it's ball to hand it's fine?

Please, continue.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:38 am 
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It stopped a certain goal, penalty at least.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:26 pm 
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Nani's sending off was disgraceful.

It was a Yellow card at worst as he was fully committed to the ball.

Aberration or whatever he's called :oops: :wink: deliberately ran into Nani's foot and went down like he'd been shot.

The Turkish referee has a history of giving Red cards for minor incidents - always against the better side on the day.

Makes you wonder if UEFA should investigate him?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:36 pm 
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Nani's sending off was disgraceful.

It was a Yellow card at worst as he was fully committed to the ball.

Aberration or whatever he's called :oops: :wink: deliberately ran into Nani's foot and went down like he'd been shot.

The Turkish referee has a history of giving Red cards for minor incidents - always against the better side on the day.

Makes you wonder if UEFA should investigate him?

He ran into his foot? :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:43 pm 
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The delicious bit for me was when Nani realised he f*cked up, so he went down like he'd been shot rolling on the ground. As if sway the ref that it was a 50/50.
Then the icing, he gets up with a strong limp that disappears after he sees the colour of the card.
:lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:57 pm 
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The delicious bit for me was when Nani realised he f*cked up, so he went down like he'd been shot rolling on the ground. As if sway the ref that it was a 50/50.
Then the icing, he gets up with a strong limp that disappears after he sees the colour of the card.
:lol: :lol:

:D About time the whingeing Nani saw the other side.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:01 pm 
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you can't have ball to hand when the hand is in an unnatural position and the natural position for an arm is not away from the body and up in the air.

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lol since when is ball to hand a deliberate handball? he was 30cm away from him lol



So you can stick your arms out and as long as it's ball to hand it's fine?

Please, continue.


it hit his bicep
he had no time to even move it out the way


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Le King wrote:
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lol since when is ball to hand a deliberate handball? he was 30cm away from him lol



So you can stick your arms out and as long as it's ball to hand it's fine?

Please, continue.


it hit his bicep
he had no time to even move it out the way


It's in an unatural position, it shouldn't have been there to start with. Why don't we all run around with our arms flapping around, then if it's hit them it's accidental and play one.

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I love how Le King doesn't have the first clue about the handball rule. :lol:

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God is an Englishman wrote:
It's in an unatural position, it shouldn't have been there to start with. Why don't we all run around with our arms flapping around, then if it's hit them it's accidental and play one.


he was jumping up to header it
all players raise there arms when going up for a head


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:39 pm 
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How many people knew it was handball before the super slow motion reverse angle footage?

There's clear handball and then there's "clear" handball. Did anyone on Real's side even appeal for a penalty?

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I love how Le King doesn't have the first clue about the handball rule. :lol:


maybe you should read the rules about deliberate handball, you might learn something


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Le King wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
I love how Le King doesn't have the first clue about the handball rule. :lol:


maybe you should read the rules about deliberate handball, you might learn something


Ctrl C, Ctrl V.

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BowTiesAreCool wrote:
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BowTiesAreCool wrote:
I love how Le King doesn't have the first clue about the handball rule. :lol:


maybe you should read the rules about deliberate handball, you might learn something


Ctrl C, Ctrl V.



http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdevel ... _47379.pdf


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How many people knew it was handball before the super slow motion reverse angle footage?

There's clear handball and then there's "clear" handball. Did anyone on Real's side even appeal for a penalty?



correct!

no Real players even appealled for it!

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Le King wrote:
BowTiesAreCool wrote:
Le King wrote:


maybe you should read the rules about deliberate handball, you might learn something


Ctrl C, Ctrl V.



http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdevel ... _47379.pdf


PAGE 16



:lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:02 pm 
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It was a red all day long. He saw him coming.

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It was a red all day long. He saw him coming.

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yeah, if he has eyes in the back of his head!
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Le King wrote:
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It's in an unatural position, it shouldn't have been there to start with. Why don't we all run around with our arms flapping around, then if it's hit them it's accidental and play one.


he was jumping up to header it
all players raise there arms when going up for a head



yes, and if the arm is a away from the body then it can be given. He;s lucky not to get a direct red for violent conduct the way he's leading with that elbow.

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Red card IMO.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:05 pm 
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Cantona would have been proud of that. Mind you, he did prefer the side kick as opposed to the snap kick.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:07 pm 
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Honestly looks like Nani is watching the ball untill the last second. Very very harsh red.


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If history tells us anything Arbeloa should have gotten a yellow card.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:57 pm 
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Honestly looks like Nani is watching the ball untill the last second. Very very harsh red.


So those players that dive into a challenge are OK so long as they're looking at the ball? So was Shawcross when he snapped Ramsey's leg, so was Taylor when he did the same to Eduardo. You have a responsibility to be aware of other players and not be dangerous.

Nani was undoubtedly going for the ball, but led with his studs and, although I think it's harsh, it's not incorrect. If he'd broken a couple of Arbeloa's ribs, would that still have been OK?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:14 pm 
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Ouch, that hurts.

Now feel free to go back through the football archives and see how many dozens of penalty's have been given purely because their arm is away from their body, whether it be ball - hand or not.

Hell, Joe Allen against West Ham springs to mind immediately. A dodgy one for United against Chelsea (I think) also springs to mind. There's more than enough evidence that position of the arm is a huge factor in the referee's consideration.

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Nice One Cyril wrote:
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Honestly looks like Nani is watching the ball untill the last second. Very very harsh red.


So those players that dive into a challenge are OK so long as they're looking at the ball? So was Shawcross when he snapped Ramsey's leg, so was Taylor when he did the same to Eduardo. You have a responsibility to be aware of other players and not be dangerous.

Nani was undoubtedly going for the ball, but led with his studs and, although I think it's harsh, it's not incorrect. If he'd broken a couple of Arbeloa's ribs, would that still have been OK?


The ball is coming over his head. He literally doesnt see Arbeloa until the balls about to touch his foot (or so Nani thinks).

Honestly if you see what Nani did as "diving into a challenge"... lol


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Ouch, that hurts.



im glad it got rammed down ur throat like that :)


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