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Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:04 am
by guti
31 man squad, 8 to drop out.
Michael Beachamp
Marco Bresciano
Tim Cahill
Nick Carle
David Carney
Scott Chipperfield
Jason Culina
Brett Emerton
Adam Federici
Eugene Galekovic
Richard Garcia
Vincenzo Grella
James Holland
Brett Holman
Mile Jedinak
Brad Jones
Joshua Kennedy
Harry Kewell
Shane Lowry
Scott McDonald
Mark Milligan
Craig Moore
Lucas Neill
Jade North
Thomas Oar
Nikita Rukavytsya
Mark Schwarzer
Carl Valeri
Dario Vidosic
Luke Wilkshire
Rhys Williams
Discuss.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:08 am
by Chips
Cant believe he didnt even consider Sasa.
No Sterjoski,jacob burns, coyne from perth.
Hope Eugene keeps a spot.
With 8 to be culled it will be interesting.
Michael Beachamp
Marco Bresciano
Tim Cahill
Nick Carle
David Carney
Scott Chipperfield
Jason Culina
Brett Emerton
Adam Federici
Eugene Galekovic
Richard Garcia
Vincenzo Grella
James Holland
Brett Holman
Mile Jedinak
Brad Jones
Joshua Kennedy
Harry Kewell
Shane Lowry
Scott McDonald
Mark Milligan
Craig Moore
Lucas Neill
Jade North
Thomas Oar
Nikita Rukavytsya
Mark Schwarzer
Carl Valeri
Dario Vidosic
Luke Wilkshire
Rhys Williams
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:41 am
by Con
So, the man who is going off to be Morocco Under 20 coach has made his decisions. Questions pop up everywhere! And did you ever hear a coach make so many excuses for his selections?
4-2-3-1, so how does Mcdonald fit into that when EVERYONE says he can only operate with 2 up front. Will speedy "Jesus Christ" Kennedy terrorise those German, Ghanaian and Serbian central animal defenders? Energetic Joel Griffiths could have had his temper tamed by Aussie Pim - that was the coach's job to harness the energy and include him.
Beauchamp brittle as ever and has hardly played. Sasa is head and shoulders above him. And don't believe the stuff about the Ogre refusing to play for us and opting to play for F.Y.R.O.M. (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia). He hadn't played for them and was not tied to them. All Pimmy had to do was make him feel wanted. His man-management failed.
He broke his own selection criteria of playing and training regularly in an overseas league- not training for a State QLD League side (as Moore is). Good riddance, Pim
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:06 pm
by pvfc
From FFA website;
Qantas Socceroos FIFA World Cup Squad Announcement
Tuesday, 11 May 2010
Qantas Socceroos Head Coach Pim Verbeek today announced his preliminary squad for the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ which begins in South Africa next month.
Qantas Airways CEO Alan Joyce and FFA CEO Ben Buckley were also on hand at today’s unveiling which occurred at the Qantas Jet Base in Sydney in front of the “Qantas Socceroos” Boeing 747 aircraft which will fly the team to Johannesburg for the tournament.
Fourteen of the players selected were involved in the Qantas Socceroos 2006 FIFA World Cup™ campaign including the captain Lucas Neill, Michael Beauchamp, Mark Bresciano, Tim Cahill, Scott Chipperfield, Jason Culina, Brett Emerton, Vincenzo Grella, Joshua Kennedy, Mark Milligan, Craig Moore Harry Kewell Mark Schwarzer, and Luke Wilkshire.
It will potentially be the first FIFA World Cup™ finals appearance for Nick Carle, David Carney, Adam Federici, Richard Garcia, James Holland, Brett Holman, Mile Jedinak, Brad Jones, Shane Lowry, Jade North, Scott McDonald, Nikita Rukavytsya, Carl Valeri, Dario Vidosic, Rhys Williams and 18-year old Tommy Oar who was the NAB Young Footballer of the Year at the conclusion of the Hyundai A-League 2009/10 season.
Although not officially included in the list of 30-names that will be submitted to FIFA, Adelaide United’s Eugene Galekovic will also join the squad as a stand-by goal keeper.
As per FIFA regulations, Verbeek will name his final squad of 23 players on Saturday 1st June in South Africa.
The Qantas Socceroos will assemble in Melbourne on Wednesday 19th May to commence their preparations for their farewell match against the New Zealand All Whites at the MCG on Monday 24th May.
The Qantas Socceroos will then depart for Johannesburg on Wednesday 26th May on the special Qantas “Socceroos” Boeing 747 flight out of Melbourne.
As part of their final preparations for the 2010 FIFA World Cup™, the Qantas Socceroos will play international friendly matches against Denmark and the United States of America (USA) on the 1st and 5th June, respectively, at Ruimsig Stadium near Johannesburg.
The Qantas Socceroos have been drawn in Group D for the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ and will face Germany in their opening match of the tournament on Sunday 13th June in Durban, followed by matches against Ghana on Saturday 19th June and then Serbia on Wednesday 23rd June.
Should the Qantas Socceroos place in the top two positions of Group D at the end of the first phase of the competition, they will play their next opponent from Group C (England, USA, Algeria or Slovenia) in the Round of 16 on either Saturday 26th June (Rustenburg) or Sunday 27th June (Mangaung/Bloemfontein).
The Quarter Finals of the tournament will be held on the 2nd and 3rd July with the Semi Finals on the 6th and 7th July and the Final to be played on the 11th July.
Preliminary squad in full
Michael BEAUCHAMP (Al-Jazira Club, UAE)
Mark BRESCIANO (U.S. Citta di Palermo, Italy)
Tim CAHILL (Everton FC, England)
Nick CARLE (Crystal Palace, England)
David CARNEY (FC Twente, Netherlands)
Scott CHIPPERFIELD (FC Basel, Switzerland)
Jason CULINA (Gold Coast United, Australia)
Brett EMERTON (Blackburn Rovers, England)
Adam FEDERICI (Reading FC, England)
Eugene GALEKOVIC* (Adelaide United, Australia)
Richard GARCIA (Hull City, England)
Vincenzo GRELLA (Blackburn Rovers, England)
James HOLLAND (AZ Alkmaar, Netherlands)
Brett HOLMAN (AZ Alkmaar, Netherlands)
Mile JEDINAK (Antalyaspor Kulubu, Turkey)
Brad JONES (Middlesbrough FC, England)
Josh KENNEDY (Nagoya Grampus, Japan)
Harry KEWELL (Galatasaray SK, Turkey)
Shane LOWRY (Aston Villa FC, England)
Scott MCDONALD (Middlesbrough FC, England)
Mark MILLIGAN (JEF United, Japan)
Craig MOORE (Uncontracted)
Lucas NEILL (Galatasaray SK, Turkey)
Jade NORTH (Tromsø, Norway)
Tom OAR (FC Utrecht, Netherlands)
Nikita RUKAVYTSYA (FC Twente, Netherlands)
Mark SCHWARZER (Fulham FC, England)
Carl VALERI (U.S. Sassuolo Calcio, Italy)
Dario VIDOSIC (FC Nurnberg, Germany)
Luke WILKSHIRE (FK Dinamo Moscow, Russia)
Rhys WILLIAMS (Middlesbrough FC, England)
Eugene deserves better than this...
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:12 pm
by Knight7
Con wrote:So, the man who is going off to be Morocco Under 20 coach has made his decisions. Questions pop up everywhere! And did you ever hear a coach make so many excuses for his selections?
4-2-3-1, so how does Mcdonald fit into that when EVERYONE says he can only operate with 2 up front. Will speedy "Jesus Christ" Kennedy terrorise those German, Ghanaian and Serbian central animal defenders? Energetic Joel Griffiths could have had his temper tamed by Aussie Pim - that was the coach's job to harness the energy and include him.
Beauchamp brittle as ever and has hardly played. Sasa is head and shoulders above him. And don't believe the stuff about the Ogre refusing to play for us and opting to play for F.Y.R.O.M. (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia). He hadn't played for them and was not tied to them. All Pimmy had to do was make him feel wanted. His man-management failed.
He broke his own selection criteria of playing and training regularly in an overseas league- not training for a State QLD League side (as Moore is). Good riddance, Pim
Agreed don't rate Pim at all, with the squad he had playing the teams we did it was like Man Utd playing in the A-League, yet we struggled in most games and played the most boring conservative Football ever -
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:14 pm
by Blotto
Con wrote:So, the man who is going off to be Morocco Under 20 coach has made his decisions. Questions pop up everywhere! And did you ever hear a coach make so many excuses for his selections?
4-2-3-1, so how does Mcdonald fit into that when EVERYONE says he can only operate with 2 up front. Will speedy "Jesus Christ" Kennedy terrorise those German, Ghanaian and Serbian central animal defenders? Energetic Joel Griffiths could have had his temper tamed by Aussie Pim - that was the coach's job to harness the energy and include him.
Beauchamp brittle as ever and has hardly played. Sasa is head and shoulders above him. And don't believe the stuff about the Ogre refusing to play for us and opting to play for F.Y.R.O.M. (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia). He hadn't played for them and was not tied to them. All Pimmy had to do was make him feel wanted. His man-management failed.
He broke his own selection criteria of playing and training regularly in an overseas league- not training for a State QLD League side (as Moore is). Good riddance, Pim
agreed 100% Pim's got his favourites... It will hurt us in SA.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:16 pm
by Blotto
Knight7 wrote:
Agreed don't rate Pim at all, with the squad he had playing the teams we did it was like Man Utd playing in the A-League, yet we struggled in most games and played the most boring conservative Football ever -
Also agree with this. Top Gun Jimmy could've qualified the socceroos for South Africa. Qualification wasnt exactly brutal by any stretch.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:17 pm
by Mr X
Milligan went to 2006 world cup and still has only 9 caps to his name, I wonder how many as a sub,
Surely Sasa Og or Spiranovic would be better options? these 2 are better than Jade North and Beauchamp also,
Forget home-town sentiment, Galekovic is 4th choice cause he plays for Adelaide Utd compared to overseas based keepers.
Neil Kilkenny better than Brett Holman?
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:18 pm
by cheesecake shop 2
Chips wrote:Cant believe he didnt even consider Sasa.
No Sterjoski,jacob burns, coyne from perth.
Hope Eugene keeps a spot.
With 8 to be culled it will be interesting.
Michael Beachamp
Marco Bresciano
Tim Cahill
Nick Carle
David Carney
Scott Chipperfield
Jason Culina
Brett Emerton
Adam Federici
Eugene Galekovic
Richard Garcia
Vincenzo Grella
James Holland
Brett Holman
Mile Jedinak
Brad Jones
Joshua Kennedy
Harry Kewell
Shane Lowry
Scott McDonald
Mark Milligan
Craig Moore
Lucas Neill
Jade North
Thomas Oar
Nikita Rukavytsya
Mark Schwarzer
Carl Valeri
Dario Vidosic
Luke Wilkshire
Rhys Williams
Eugene will only go if one of the keepers gets injured.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:25 pm
by Blotto
Top Gun Aurelio wrote:
Neil Kilkenny better than Brett Holman?
yep.. another one of "Pim's Boys" Absolute donkey who's done nothing for Australia...
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:29 pm
by Ohhh What A Finish
Neil Kilkenny is hardly better than Holman.
Holman has pace and drive, 2 things which Kilkenny lacks.
As a United supporter, i have watched Kilkenny, throughout the season, and most recently the last 2 games aired on Fox and im afraid he's backseat passenger status, is going to fault him in gaining a new contract next year.
I am happy about Nicky Carle coming in, deserves it, he has been unfairly treated for a long time. Sasa Ognenovski should be there too, Im sure Pim has his reasons for not choosing him, they have a pool of over hundreds of players, who ply there trade overseas, so im sure, Pim has a reason. Goodluck to him, looks like we are going to be relying on the Awesome Foursome again, Cahill, Kewell, Neill and Schwarzer.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:51 pm
by Lucas Leiva
Once this World Cup is over, I cannot wait for Ognenovski, Bosnar, Carle, Richard Porta and Griffiths to be looked at from a neutral perspective.
Verbeek should have been sensible and acted with integrity and selflessness in picking this squad. Not choosing in-form players (Ogne) and players with the characteristics we need to beat the German and Serbian defence (Griffiths) is not in the best interests of himself, the squad, or the nation.
The results will tell the tale at the end of the day. But for one, I am disappointed I will potentially be watching Beauchamp & Holman against Serbia when I'm there, because I know they're both donkeys (and 95% of the population agrees).
BTW Beauchamp would have never been a Socceroo if it wasn't for Graham Arnold. Thanks Arnie, your legacy lives on.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:35 pm
by DOC
did apologise to the injured players, such as thompson, kemp, kisnorbo...
plus spiranovic, troisi, djite, og, kilkenny, bosnar, griffiths, colosimo, sterj, coyne, wilkinson, durante, burns... a few others as well who could have gone
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:57 pm
by sparts
eugene needs to leave AU, simple as that. the championship is a better league than the A-league hence why federeci and jones got the nod. the longer he stays the longer he holds back his real potential. its a shame as i think he could play at a higher level and hope he does one day
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:16 pm
by Blotto
sparts wrote:eugene needs to leave AU, simple as that. the championship is a better league than the A-league hence why federeci and jones got the nod. the longer he stays the longer he holds back his real potential. its a shame as i think he could play at a higher level and hope he does one day
unfortunately for AU, I tend to agree...
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:59 pm
by Red-4-Life
its not a strong as squad as 2006 but i think its a good mix of youth and experience that can get some good results in South Africa.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:40 pm
by Chelsea4thewin
sterjovski is a bit unlucky
been great for us internationally
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:38 pm
by admin
I think Pim has selected a good squad given the options available.
It is not as strong as the 2006 squad in terms of the starting 11 but it may actually have a little more depth.
The real positives:
- no Archie Thompson and no Simon Colosimo who have had too many opportunities and are proven as non-performers at international level.
- great to see Richard Garcia selected - he adds some much needed depth to the squad
- great to see Nick Carle selected - he adds depth and gives Pim something different in the squad
- great to see Shane Lowry selected - he is a highly regarded defender and will be a key player in future Socceroo squads
- great to see Scott Macdonald selected - he has a poor record for the Socceroos but we have a real shortage of any quality strikers. He provides Pim with an alternative experienced striker. Plus if John Aloisi can score a cracker goal at the 2006 World Cup Finals then so can Scott Macdonald.
- squad is a good mix of experience and youth
The negatives:
- Mark Milligan - he has struggled since the Asian Cup - will probably be cut but then maybe this is the boost he needs to get himself back on track.
- Michael Beachamp - has failed to live up to his early promise and is prone to making costly errors. Could single handedly knock Australia out of the World Cup - will probably be cut.
- Craig Moore - adds a lot of experience but his lack of pace and lack of sharpness after a couple seasons in the A-League makes him very suspect. Might get cut.
One of the big issues for the Socceroos going into the World Cup is there are a lot of players in the squad that are coming back from injuries in the last few months.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:40 pm
by admin
Chelsea4thewin wrote:sterjovski is a bit unlucky
been great for us internationally
He has looked ordinary in his recent performances. We have no shortage of ordinary midfielders - so why persist with an old ordinary midfielder when we have lots of younger ordinary midfielders with more pace and greater unpredictability.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:53 am
by the_gun
admin wrote:Chelsea4thewin wrote:sterjovski is a bit unlucky
been great for us internationally
He has looked ordinary in his recent performances. We have no shortage of ordinary midfielders - so why persist with an old ordinary midfielder when we have lots of younger ordinary midfielders with more pace and greater unpredictability.
hes got experience.
Re: Provisional 31 man squad
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:53 pm
by admin
the_gun wrote:admin wrote:Chelsea4thewin wrote:sterjovski is a bit unlucky
been great for us internationally
He has looked ordinary in his recent performances. We have no shortage of ordinary midfielders - so why persist with an old ordinary midfielder when we have lots of younger ordinary midfielders with more pace and greater unpredictability.
hes got experience.
So has my mother but that does not make her a great footballer....
but I understand what you are saying. His experience would have been a positive but we already have a pretty experienced group of midfielders.