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Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:12 pm
by bapa
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:30 pm
by God is an Englishman
oh dear aussie.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:48 pm
by carntyne square
I will admit to laughing when clarke went for the review on trott, thinking brilliant he's just used up his reviews. Imagine my shock when he was given out.
I think they should be taking reviews down to 1 per innings, these should be to get rid of horror decisions not on a whim.
And yes, swings and roundabouts but DRS is supposed to get rid of that. eg. Even though I think Agar was out, I agree with the decision because it wasn't conclusive from the tv and as the umpire didn't give it, it should revert to that decision. That's when my complaint comes in. Original decision for trott was not out, without that hotspot camera it was inconclusive so should have reverted to umpires original decision of not out.[/quote]
Not sure why you would've been laughing when he appealed it?? At that point all we saw was the dismissal in real time. You hadn't even had the opportunity to hang on a rather paper thin technicality as they never mentioned the hotspot for a few minutes after. So your 1st drop gets caught bang infront with no double sound potentially leaving your team 2 down and 40 runs behind and you let out a fearless chuckle. I seriously doubt this.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:52 pm
by God is an Englishman
carntyne square wrote:Not sure why you would've been laughing when he appealed it?? At that point all we saw was the dismissal in real time. You hadn't even had the opportunity to hang on a rather paper thin technicality as they never mentioned the hotspot for a few minutes after. So your 1st drop gets caught bang infront with no double sound potentially leaving your team 2 down and 40 runs behind and you let out a fearless chuckle. I seriously doubt this.
because my immediate thought was "he's hit it". The "technicality" I was hanging on was the laws of the game.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:59 am
by MegaBonus
Oh the hypocrisy, oh the double standards, oh the irony.....
Broad, though, stayed firmly put. Then again, it runs in the family. His father Chris was involved in one of the most notorious non-walking cases in the history of cricket.
It came in the Second Test at Lahore in 1987 — on the infamous tour of Pakistan that featured the bust-up between Mike Gatting and umpire Shakoor Rana.
Broad was given out — correctly — but refused to budge.
In fact, he stood there for a full minute until fellow opener Graham Gooch suggested it might be time for him to head back to the pavilion. He was later severely reprimanded.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:14 am
by Bomber
The culprit here is clearly the umpire. Mind you, only getting cleaned bowled would only be more obvious. The ump needs to be stood down after such an obvious howler.
Now the DRS - again, Clarke is too quick to use up his options so early on, whereas Cook at least has a think about it and only calls for it if its truly believed to be very iffy.
Either the DRS needs tweaking, in that the umps call for it if they cant be sure and not leave it in the hands of the players, or dont use it at all.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:04 pm
by Scholes
WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND. No aussie can blame Broad for not walking, the aussies started that under captain grumpy.Oh, that reminds me, didn't you sheep shaggers bowl underarm once? You want to play "tough cricket", but don't like it when you are on the receiving end of some.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:15 pm
by God is an Englishman
MegaBonus wrote:Oh the hypocrisy, oh the double standards, oh the irony.....
Broad, though, stayed firmly put. Then again, it runs in the family. His father Chris was involved in one of the most notorious non-walking cases in the history of cricket.
It came in the Second Test at Lahore in 1987 — on the infamous tour of Pakistan that featured the bust-up between Mike Gatting and umpire Shakoor Rana.
Broad was given out — correctly — but refused to budge.
In fact, he stood there for a full minute until fellow opener Graham Gooch suggested it might be time for him to head back to the pavilion. He was later severely reprimanded.
Where's the irony, hypocrisy and double standards?
Chris Broad wasn't out, rana was a fucking cheat
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:44 pm
by The Chosŏn One
Whether he was given out rightly or not is irrelevant. If the umpire has given him out he should make his way back to the pavillion.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:43 am
by Steve#4
I don't see any Aussies whinging about Broad but still see a couple of poms doing what the do best....
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:30 am
by God is an Englishman
Steve#4 wrote:I don't see any Aussies whinging about Broad but still see a couple of poms doing what the do best....
you don't see any aussies whingeing about broad, my facebook is full of them.
I believe they both should have walked and both are cheats.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:34 am
by God is an Englishman
Ofor wrote:Whether he was given out rightly or not is irrelevant. If the umpire has given him out he should make his way back to the pavillion.
no argument from me, even if the umpire is a fucking cheat.
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:27 am
by Steve#4
God is an Englishman wrote:Steve#4 wrote:I don't see any Aussies whinging about Broad but still see a couple of poms doing what the do best....
you don't see any aussies whingeing about broad,
my facebook is full of them.
I believe they both should have walked and both are cheats.
With all due respect, I think that probably has more to do with you than Broad...

Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:33 am
by Monder
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:37 pm
by Red-4-Life
The usual collapse has Aussies on the ropes. Haddin and Agar need to build a strong partnership if Australia are going to win this test
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:05 pm
by Derek
one to go........
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:54 pm
by Ciudad Juarez
What a joke
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:56 pm
by God is an Englishman
1-0 TO THE ENGLAND!!
Great test though, well played australia
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:57 pm
by predator
some more bending of the rules again
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:58 pm
by Red-4-Life
fucking cunts
Warner should deck them all
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:00 pm
by Derek

Brilliant! Tough shit Aussies
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:15 pm
by Stitch This
Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy,
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Anderson

Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:21 pm
by God is an Englishman
predator wrote:some more bending of the rules again
What rules were bent?
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:22 pm
by God is an Englishman
Red-4-Life wrote:bottle of shiraz champagne
Warner should deck them all
because he was so successful at that last time

Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:26 pm
by swannsong
S
hit happens....if Australia's top order had got their s
hit together it would not have come down to one DRS decision.
Take it on the chin and move on....great spirit from most of the Australian team to get within 15 runs of an upset win.
Unlike Clinton...Australia came
close but no cigar !
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:52 am
by ExtraTime
B.Toomer wrote:WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND. No aussie can blame Broad for not walking, the aussies started that under captain grumpy.Oh, that reminds me, didn't you sheep shaggers bowl underarm once? You want to play "tough cricket", but don't like it when you are on the receiving end of some.
Maybe your knowledge into cricket history isnt that great .... W G Grace was known not to walk when given out .
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:01 am
by bapa
end of the day, the rules state that a batsmen is not out, until the umpire gives him out
Broad didnt have to walk, Aussies had no appeals left. Clarke stuffed up the last appeal he had left.
Cook and the Poms used their appeals very very well, making sure they inquired with Prior, bowler and then himself before appealing.
However, it just shows the character Broad is, if his father was a cheat and a sook, what do u expect from the son?
He SHOULD of walked, the edge was so obvious, but the umpire was at fault for not seeing the obvious. maybe a $$$$$ was exchanged???

Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:17 am
by Derek
He is not a cheat. No modern day batsman walk these days.....Umpire is to blame, end of story.
Haddin should have walked too

Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:23 am
by bapa
Ian_Wright wrote:He is not a cheat. No modern day batsman walk these days.....Umpire is to blame, end of story.
Haddin should have walked too

define a cheat pls?
why should haddin of walked, even Anderson was surprised he was given out!
Re: The Ashes 2013 in England
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:25 am
by Steve#4
God is an Englishman wrote:1-0 TO THE ENGLAND!!
Great test though, well played australia
Must be nice to finally replace the Britain in that sentence....
Congrats on the win, and enthralling match and why T20 will never overtake this form of the game.