Under 13 skillaroos lose

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Under 13 skillaroos lose

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Richie what happened ?

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Perhaps you could teach them how to behave
at school - they should be reminded what humility is.

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You tell us!

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chuck norris wrote:You tell us!
I ain't the one getting paid the big bucks

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Re: Under 13 skillaroos lose

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is there any good talent in the skillaroos squad this year ?

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Three words wrote:is there any good talent in the skillaroos squad this year ?
Who cares

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Why don't kids want to be a part of this program?

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chuck norris wrote:Why don't kids want to be a part of this program?
because its a pathway for daddy boys to become failed reserve players

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jimmy2014 wrote:
chuck norris wrote:Why don't kids want to be a part of this program?
because its a pathway for daddy boys to become failed reserve players
I'm a happy daddy cause I coach my own kids. I make sure ones the captain and the other is e centre mid. Keeps my wife happy too :P

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Ibelieve wrote:
jimmy2014 wrote:
chuck norris wrote:Why don't kids want to be a part of this program?
because its a pathway for daddy boys to become failed reserve players
I'm a happy daddy cause I coach my own kids. I make sure ones the captain and the other is e centre mid. Keeps my wife happy too :P
I think I spoke with her at the canteen :shock:

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Yes it's very predictable that all coaches, assistant coaches, officials and team managers son's get selected for STIC's.

They then also get selected for the later trials up until the final Skilleroos are selected.

Great future for Australian football - NOT!

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west_ham wrote:Yes it's very predictable that all coaches, assistant coaches, officials and team managers son's get selected for STIC's.

They then also get selected for the later trials up until the final Skilleroos are selected.

Great future for Australian football - NOT!
You've not been around stic for quite some time then?

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hudsona wrote:
west_ham wrote:Yes it's very predictable that all coaches, assistant coaches, officials and team managers son's get selected for STIC's.

They then also get selected for the later trials up until the final Skilleroos are selected.

Great future for Australian football - NOT!
You've not been around stic for quite some time then?
You have to ask just what planet these people living on.

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because its a pathway for daddy boys to become failed reserve players[/quote]

I'm a happy daddy cause I coach my own kids. I make sure ones the captain and the other is e centre mid. Keeps my wife happy too :P[/quote]

I think I spoke with her at the canteen :shock:[/quote]

Yes you did, she mentioned that.
It was one of the worst days of an individual's life, seeing your face :x

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Hey Hurl grenache - the players are there to develop, not to win, just because your son is not good enough to get picked and you start to criticising people.

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Three words wrote:Hey Hurl grenache - the players are there to develop, not to win, just because your son is not good enough to get picked and you start to criticising people.
When dhra loses he simply says we're trying to play curriculum soccer.
When dhra wins , we're all class.

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waste of time - how many players from years gone by have done something!!

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AL K HOLIC wrote:waste of time - how many players from years gone by have done something!!
Would be an interesting stat.
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^^^

This would be interesting to find out.

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FUBAR wrote:^^^

This would be interesting to find out.
I've heard that there needs to be a certain 'success rate',
whereby success is measured by the number of players then invited
to the AIS. Rumour has it that there will ALWAYS be a satisfactory success
rate, mate helping mate.

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I feel for Richie, he only plays the hand dealt to him.
He knows little about the corrupt recommendations arriving at his door.
FFSA must investigate SAP coaches when also directors at clubs ("join their club or be cut").
Current SAP coaches play god in the selection process but have no football CV.
They are newsagents or pharmacists by trade etc, it's not good enough.
I'm aware the growing trend this year is more kids will again opt out the system.
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Conflicts of interest reign supreme!

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DAT wrote:I feel for Richie, he only plays the hand dealt to him.
He knows little about the corrupt recommendations arriving at his door.

What do you base the "corrupt Recommendations" allegations on? Hearsay or have you confirmation?

FFSA must investigate SAP coaches when also directors at clubs ("join their club or be cut").
Current SAP coaches play god in the selection process but have no football CV.

Can you detail the selection process for us?

They are newsagents or pharmacists by trade etc, it's not good enough.

These are part time coaching roles...they have others jobs/trades to pay the bills.....what are you thinking is appropriate?

I'm aware the growing trend this year is more kids will again opt out the system.
Can you give examples?

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Definitely not hearsay and i do have confirmation. Got a shocking example but with respect to those affected it's not fair to be factual on here. I'm pointing the direction, it's best the FFSA now looks into conflicts of interest.

The SAP program has much to be desired, aimed at finding flair and raw talent only to kill it, to make robots. 11 identical players do not make a team, however a mix of diverse talents in their own right does. The coach's eye must consider differing pathways for raw flair, game changers, creators, change-pacers, not just physical wreckers.

As you asked, appropriate coaches would be retired pros, not non-discripts, plus funded by the system. It's about evolution, roll modelling, passionate retired pros wanting to make Kids better than they were. E.g Cristiano and Cassio are floating around, they totally captivate, they promote flair, they get on the kids level, they playfully beat kids with tricks during drinks breaks. The kids want to be like them, not some old fashioned newsagent.
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there seems to be some dissatisfaction with the system for threads to re-open from year to year...I find it hard to comment on the success of this system without any numbers to back up anyone's story...ie some kind of measure of success clearly would indicate if boys became greater players than they might have been if they just stayed at club ....IMO the SAP training is better than club
but also can it compare to what's going on elsewhere in the world..? Parents are deluded if they think that a couple of extra trainings a week for half the year plus club will make a boy world class.
You don't hear of a champion kid's swimming training taking this little input (from the system or the kid+parent ) ...to me this is where the system needs improvement ...to put all the options on the table and some real feedback to boys and parents about what training is available to increase the depth of talent then the so called knock-out blow as described above becomes irrelevant ..

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HEMICRANK wrote:there seems to be some dissatisfaction with the system for threads to re-open from year to year....
That telles you more about the people posting than anything else.

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new batch of skillaroos and new batch of parents going through the system.

Fact is only around 30 kids can be taken into the program at u/13's - is that right?- Skillaroos and Shadow?

Theres the problem right there-..they can't take everyone...and everyone wants that better coaching , better training etc.

My only concern is the SAP/STIC coaches that poach the kids that don't make it and guide them to particular clubs with false hope of staying on the radar- there is no reason to expose these coaches as they usually go away after a year or 2 and people work out them out.

I prefer working with my ugly duckling kids and improving them in a great club environment. If your good enough they will come and get you is our motto. These SAP and STIC trails held can be a waste of time- you just need to watch lots of games and you will identify the kids in their natural environment, but it is good for kids to experience and see what all the fuss is all about after the 2nd or 3rd time of trying out , they usually say give someone else the opportunity to experience SAP/STIC trials.

Im more concerned about how JPL leagues are established from u/13's than SAP and STIC......thats manipulation at its worst

Who says results don't matter......

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Is it true that nearly 10 kids from Metro made it into the U13 Skillaroos?

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The southern one has been doing poaching for years. Not a good example of how to develop people, let alone players.

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I heard shocking story regarding what happens to kids he can't poach.
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