U17s cup replays

[corona]

I heard just last week that u17s cup games may need to replayed back to first rd as a team played a unregistered player and this team made it to semis , so now have to back track the team they knocked out . if true seriously wtf is this win even by cheating , what is it with these clubs not only one club but a few , how can you celebrate or have a medal around your neck by cheating . Im really disgusted by all these things and we have clubs saying we are here to develop and look at our juniors , what by cheating , FFSA need to be give out harder penalties , to the clubs not only the team involved . then you will see a change .

[kings]

I heard just last week that u17s cup games may need to replayed back to first rd as a team played a unregistered player and this team made it to semis , so now have to back track the team they knocked out . if true seriously wtf is this win even by cheating , what is it with these clubs not only one club but a few , how can you celebrate or have a medal around your neck by cheating . Im really disgusted by all these things and we have clubs saying we are here to develop and look at our juniors , what by cheating , FFSA need to be give out harder penalties , to the clubs not only the team involved . then you will see a change .

Ffsa have not been able to check if clubs are cheating as there are no photo ID cards.
How can Ffsa check if some one is cheating under the new system no photos ?
How can you check if a player plays under another name and number .

[corona]

Kings , its slack off the ffsa to not do player cards 1- its saves money and 2- work for them ,

only those clubs doing this , forget these kids go to school with others and find out more that way who is correct or cheating , very small world , but rather blaming the ffsa , I blame the clubs , shame on them and there coaches , very SAD for the sport .

[AL K HOLIC]

The FFSA should force all players to go to HQ with their parents to register, once they are registered they issue the player with a drivers license style card that they need to keep. No matter what club they go to they then show the verified FFSA players card which is renewed every 2 years, these cards are also used for card checks and must be given at each game to the ref.

How hard is it, sure the first year is crazy while they register all players and make cards, but after that it's only new players.

No player can play without a card and no club is held accountable, the player/parents/FFSA are.

[Statler and Waldorf]

Each team manager should be held responsible for checking the age
of his players at the start of the season, and he should be held responsible for the same for every match played.
The integrity of the game is suffering because people know whats happening and they're turning
a blind eye.
Its a win at all cost mentality for some coaches who are so far up their own
arses and only concerned about their reputation to give a shiraz about how it effects
the players, and the clubs and managers who do the right thing.

At the younger age groups they should stop producing ladders and just let the development happen.
That way the real ability of a coach is seen in the way his team performs without an eye on where they finish on the ladder, their style of play, technical ability and respect for the players around them and the officials should be the marker.
What we see all too often is coaches screaming at the officials and their players, as young as 12
following suit because of the example their coach is setting.
Players being kept at age groups and not allowed to move up to suit their development, who wins in this instant?
The coach, as he has one or 2 players that are far superior to the players around them, they coast through games and end up thinking they're the gods gift to football and get an attitude when moving up to seniors.

Also for a U17 team to field an over age player means he must be a senior right?
How hard is it for the club to not know whats happening?

[rossonero]

there is no need for massive line ups at FFSA head quaters, just because 2 clubs made a mistake, intentionally or not.

one simple way to fix this is remove points from the senior team, you will then notice that clubs will be really careful.

[owl man]

Does anyone know which two teams

[kings]

there is no need for massive line ups at FFSA head quaters, just because 2 clubs made a mistake, intentionally or not.

one simple way to fix this is remove points from the senior team, you will then notice that clubs will be really careful.

Fantastic idea and if it FFSA then remove them

[kings]

there is no need for massive line ups at FFSA head quaters, just because 2 clubs made a mistake, intentionally or not.

one simple way to fix this is remove points from the senior team, you will then notice that clubs will be really careful.

Looks like NTC maybe loosing points for FFSA mistakes . U/14 Kings cleared

[kings]

When are U17s cup replays starting .

[juvefever]

Adelaide City still in the cup and game results stand.....can someone please explain!

[kings]

there is no need for massive line ups at FFSA head quaters, just because 2 clubs made a mistake, intentionally or not.

one simple way to fix this is remove points from the senior team, you will then notice that clubs will be really careful.

Looks like NTC maybe loosing points for FFSA mistakes . U/14 Kings cleared

Looks like NTC lost more points . U/17 all ok

[fossil]

Adelaide City still in the cup and game results stand.....can someone please explain!

someone lost the player photos and registration at the kaos headquaters

[juvefever]

So was the player registered or not....a little confused.....even if photo etc were lost, misplaced or the dog ate it....regio is online and the club registrar must accept so how could they not know he wasn't registered.

[corona]

find this very amusing , the ffsa sent out a email that this team played a unregistered player , now after all this its been cleared , if he was unregistered and the ffsa sent a email , how can it now be ok , sorry but doesn't stack up , why send a email in the first place . seriously some ppl need to look at themselves . how can you be not registered then suddenly oh no its ok . give me break , every year there is this crap . .

[Ello Govna]

I heard just last week that u17s cup games may need to replayed back to first rd as a team played a unregistered player and this team made it to semis , so now have to back track the team they knocked out . if true seriously wtf is this win even by cheating , what is it with these clubs not only one club but a few , how can you celebrate or have a medal around your neck by cheating . Im really disgusted by all these things and we have clubs saying we are here to develop and look at our juniors , what by cheating , FFSA need to be give out harder penalties , to the clubs not only the team involved . then you will see a change .

The team which cheated their way to the semis finally lost .
I am wondering if I told a policeman i was just speeding would he let me off .(the answer would be NO!)
I can see why the FFSA let this final go ahead (Due to time restraits etc.)
BUT
the team in questioned should be made accountable
By removing all the points they gained while this player was playing.

This MIGHT send a message to ALL the other junior teams Who might want to bend the Rules to suit them.
The association has to start clamping down on this behaviour before it speads

FAIR PLAY FOR ALL

[fossil]

hearing cup final teams changed

[Ello Govna]

Why are people so obsessed with bending the rules so .

The clubs should put a playing list together of say 20 players for ALL age groups
for the cup and CAN NOT vary from it and submit to the FFSA it at the start.

Then the FFSA would send all the lists out to the other clubs so they can cross reference
if they wish to minimize cheating.


FAIR PLAY FOR ALL :?

[Ello Govna]

Just found out that Metro are playing Playford in the finals.
Congrades to the boys
BUT
Playford did lose to croydon in the semis ,
but they must have been naughty

[juvefever]

Rules are set according to who the club is .....this u17 cup has been a farce for a long time. Can you play in your age group then id your team is knocked out...go up and play in a higher age group still within juniors?

[Abenomics]

I don't see why not. Playing up shouldn't be an issue. Playing down would likely be a no though.

[runcorn2adelaide]

Playing down is also ok - as it's a different competition - junior vs senior

[matty2323]

Just found out that Metro are playing Playford in the finals.
Congrades to the boys
BUT
Playford did lose to croydon in the semis ,
but they must have been naughty

Croydon has a few senior players (18s and Reserves) playing down. Although they were age appropriate (still under 17) they hadn't participated in a cup game with the 17s prior to the semi finals. The rules state to be eligible for the cup semis you need to have played in a previous cup round prior to that i believe or a certain amount of league games. Im not sure exactly. Anyways, Good luck to Playford and Metro in the final.

[Abenomics]

Playing down is also ok - as it's a different competition - junior vs senior

He said within juniors.

[johnydep]

Croydon has a few senior players (18s and Reserves) playing down. Although they were age appropriate (still under 17) they hadn't participated in a cup game with the 17s prior to the semi finals. The rules state to be eligible for the cup semis you need to have played in a previous cup round prior to that i believe or a certain amount of league games.

Wrong. The team only played 1 cup game, prior to the semi's. Three U17 players from the team that played all their games with the 17's, they were unavaiable for the first Cup game. The Club presumed they would be eligible for the semi's because the players names were on a team sheet for a previous forfeited Cup game. It was not to be.

[runcorn2adelaide]

Playing down is also ok - as it's a different competition - junior vs senior

He said within juniors.

U17 is the oldest age group in the juniors - so anyone playing down has to be coming from seniors.

[Reluctant Stereotype]

So someone who has played U17 can then play U15?

[Ello Govna]

What happens to the exsisting players that get pushed aside for the greater good of winning.

This is like the City reserve keeper who got over look for the cup.
Just imagine how he felt.

FAIR PLAY FOR ALL
:?

[Stitch This]

So someone who has played U17 can then play U15?

I they are U15 and not cup tied.

[redfred]

Surely players should be brought up rather than brought down for higher teams? Isn't juniors about development? or are teams result only driven in the juniors?