SASF v FFSA NPL - Crowd numbers & Prize Money

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johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Appears jest and a hidden agenda about true actual crowd numbers and gate takings from the FFSA leagues?????
Will the truth come out?????

Will you come out and actually support the game JD? That would be preferable instead of wasting your time on your ridiculous posts here on FN.

Mind you, your "Gillman" idea gave me some much needed comic relief after a tough week at work.

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Shoot goal

I follow the local game more than most in the iPhone world.
Read my signature?
I am older now and watching the game live is not a time priority anymore given other interests.
A few games to watch per year is it.

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johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

I follow the local game more than most in the iPhone world.
Read my signature?
I am older now and watching the game live is not a time priority anymore given other interests.
A few games to watch per year is it.

How can you make the judgement that you follow the local game more than most? How can you possibly measure that? You comment and criticise about issues,but do not give anything back to the game.

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Shoot goal

"Give back to the game"

Gave enough it's time to enjoy the holidays.......

Thank you iPhone I can read the results etc in my own time....

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johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

"Give back to the game"

Gave enough it's time to enjoy the holidays.......

Thank you iPhone I can read the results etc in my own time....

Typically, you did not answer the two questions that I asked you. How would you know that you follow the local game more than most? How do you measure that?

If in fact, you do follow the local game a lot, why are you so ignorant of what is going on and so stuck in the past?

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United We Stand wrote:why are you so ignorant of what is going on?
I could ask you the same question.
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ʃₐᵇf(x)dx=F(b)-F(a) wrote:
United We Stand wrote:why are you so ignorant of what is going on?
I could ask you the same question.

Being actively involved in the local football scene with a club, watching matches at both NPL Men and Women's matches and coaching young players means that I am far from ignorant. What are you on about?
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United We Stand wrote:What are you on about?
dedes just looking for attention and someone to spar with and you only too happy to play along.
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ʃₐᵇf(x)dx=F(b)-F(a) wrote:
United We Stand wrote:What are you on about?
dedes just looking for attention and someone to spar with and you only too happy to play along.


That is not ignorance. It is me putting an arrogant (And ignorant) person in his place. He dismisses people on this forum yet posts ridiculous,inaccurate,disrespectful and irrelevant comments. He shows a complete lack of respect and contempt for the football community and is completely selfish and self absorbed. I want to point out that he isn't just trying to invoke a reaction from everyone. I have known him in the past and actually worked with him at an administrative level. He actually believes what he has written on this forum. He expressed the same views in the past, but I had to unfortunately hear his ridiculous ranting and raving in his presence. I understand why you think that he is just looking for attention and someone to spar with but,believe me, it isn't the case.

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Shoot goal

Good morning.

Interesting rants about JD .

Evidence:

A pure visionary eg legally separating the juniors in 2000 at Park B 27.
The move was ahead of its time.

Thank you JD

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johndedes wrote:
Evidence:

A pure visionary eg legally separating the juniors in 2000 at Park B 27.
The move was ahead of its time.
Yeah, and it worked so well for the club(s) involved at the time hey.
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I kept my first ever clean sheet in South Australia on that ground.
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Wunkar Fox wrote:I kept my first ever clean sheet in South Australia on that ground.
I got two boots-full of 3 corner jacks on my games there.
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johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Good morning.

Interesting rants about JD .

Evidence:

A pure visionary eg legally separating the juniors in 2000 at Park B 27.
The move was ahead of its time.

Thank you JD


So, you did this all on your own did you? You don't recognise your fellow committee members who were part of the decision to legally separate the Juniors from the Seniors? Even if it was your idea, your fellow committee members backed you and voted for this,did they not?

If you really did this on your own, it doesn't say much about how organized the club's administrative arm was. So you presided over this, did you?

You keep ramming this sole decision down everyone's throats and show yourself up as a self seeking and self absorbed person. You describe yourself as a visionary based on this one decision. So you want to be the only one to take the kudos. Modesty is obviously a foreign concept for you.

P.S Is there anyone who can confirm that it was JD's idea and that he acted without his fellow committee members?

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Bomber wrote:
Wunkar Fox wrote:I kept my first ever clean sheet in South Australia on that ground.
I got two boots-full of 3 corner jacks on my games there.
Shoot goal

Funny memories,

1972 it was we Polonia U12 played USC Lion on Park B27, had to take a cow off the pitch before the start of the game, covered with three corner jacks, big cracks, cow dun.....
We won the match scored a few goals.
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United We Stand wrote:
johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Good morning.

Interesting rants about JD .

Evidence:

A pure visionary eg legally separating the juniors in 2000 at Park B 27.
The move was ahead of its time.

Thank you JD


So, you did this all on your own did you? You don't recognise your fellow committee members who were part of the decision to legally separate the Juniors from the Seniors? Even if it was your idea, your fellow committee members backed you and voted for this,did they not?

If you really did this on your own, it doesn't say much about how organized the club's administrative arm was. So you presided over this, did you?

You keep ramming this sole decision down everyone's throats and show yourself up as a self seeking and self absorbed person. You describe yourself as a visionary based on this one decision. So you want to be the only one to take the kudos. Modesty is obviously a foreign concept for you.

P.S Is there anyone who can confirm that it was JD's idea and that he acted without his fellow committee members?
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For the record it was the only real and just act in my agenda there.
To legally separate the juniors.
This should have been done years before Wah got liquidated.
Job done then I was asked to step down.
Thank you I did.

In hindsight it was a very very very act to acheive.
Not easy in that environment eg a world war three type soccer war between Greek background clubs .

Today Park B 27 is over 40 years old , that clubroom built on donated labour and funds is a major legacy and example what a bunch of dads achieved . My dad included.
Bravo to Mr John Pappas the President back then, thanks uncle .

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johndedes wrote:
United We Stand wrote:
johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Good morning.

Interesting rants about JD .

Evidence:

A pure visionary eg legally separating the juniors in 2000 at Park B 27.
The move was ahead of its time.

Thank you JD


So, you did this all on your own did you? You don't recognise your fellow committee members who were part of the decision to legally separate the Juniors from the Seniors? Even if it was your idea, your fellow committee members backed you and voted for this,did they not?

If you really did this on your own, it doesn't say much about how organized the club's administrative arm was. So you presided over this, did you?

You keep ramming this sole decision down everyone's throats and show yourself up as a self seeking and self absorbed person. You describe yourself as a visionary based on this one decision. So you want to be the only one to take the kudos. Modesty is obviously a foreign concept for you.

P.S Is there anyone who can confirm that it was JD's idea and that he acted without his fellow committee members?
Shoot goal
For the record it was the only real and just act in my agenda there.
To legally separate the juniors.
This should have been done years before Wah got liquidated.
Job done then I was asked to step down.
Thank you I did.

In hindsight it was a very very very act to acheive.
Not easy in that environment eg a world war three type soccer war between Greek background clubs .

Today Park B 27 is over 40 years old , that clubroom built on donated labour and funds is a major legacy and example what a bunch of dads achieved . My dad included.
Bravo to Mr John Pappas the President back then, thanks uncle .
JD is there anyone one this forum with more credibility than you that can back up your statements that you and your family solely set up B27 or whatever that is.
When the pope is in town next will there be a request for your sainthood.

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Shoot goal

I never said I set up Park B27.
The 1970's founding WA Hellas Junior SC founding fathers did.

Eg some names I can remember,

John Pappas - President
John Krashos
Steve Krashos
Eleftherios Dedes
Mr Masoulis
Mr Kiritsis
Mr Pantelis
Tacki the barber
Mr Paleologos
Etc etc etc
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Ancient history, give it a rest, we have all read it a million times.

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Shoot goal

Ok let's get back to the crowd number data?

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johndedes wrote:
United We Stand wrote:
johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Good morning.

Interesting rants about JD .

Evidence:

A pure visionary eg legally separating the juniors in 2000 at Park B 27.
The move was ahead of its time.

Thank you JD


So, you did this all on your own did you? You don't recognise your fellow committee members who were part of the decision to legally separate the Juniors from the Seniors? Even if it was your idea, your fellow committee members backed you and voted for this,did they not?

If you really did this on your own, it doesn't say much about how organized the club's administrative arm was. So you presided over this, did you?

You keep ramming this sole decision down everyone's throats and show yourself up as a self seeking and self absorbed person. You describe yourself as a visionary based on this one decision. So you want to be the only one to take the kudos. Modesty is obviously a foreign concept for you.

P.S Is there anyone who can confirm that it was JD's idea and that he acted without his fellow committee members?
Shoot goal
For the record it was the only real and just act in my agenda there.
To legally separate the juniors.
This should have been done years before Wah got liquidated.
Job done then I was asked to step down.
Thank you I did.

In hindsight it was a very very very act to acheive.
Not easy in that environment eg a world war three type soccer war between Greek background clubs .

Today Park B 27 is over 40 years old , that clubroom built on donated labour and funds is a major legacy and example what a bunch of dads achieved . My dad included.
Bravo to Mr John Pappas the President back then, thanks uncle .


JD, again you have not directly answered my questions. I will make it easy for you. Just answer "Yes" or "No." Briefly explain if your answer for Numbers 2 and 3 is "No."


1. Was it your idea to legally separate the Juniors from the Seniors?

2. Did you bring this idea in the form of a proposal to the Committee? If "No" briefly say why.

3. Was a formal vote taken by the committee on this important proposal? If "No" briefly say why.

4. Are you saying that you only nominated for the Committee for the sole purpose of legally separating the Juniors from the Seniors?

5. Why were you asked to stand down if you had presided over such an important move?

6. Can you direct me to someone who can verify your answers? That is, another Committee member or legal representative that performed the "legal" work. The name of this person doesn't have to be splashed all over FN. You can send the name of this person as a Private Message.
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Your answers.

My idea , I did it, I was surprised the seniors allowed it, that is the main reason I got involved back then, then they were not happy so they asked me to step down so I resigned all together.

Furthermore.
Being the President of the juniors back then I was also a member of the senior committee.
This got the OK in a senior meeting to legally separate the juniors At OCBA. Then went to the junior committee it was ratified there . Job done. All ok until a person back then from the seniors asked me for funds from the juniors to the seniors. I said no . Not long after I was asked to step down. So I resigned.
I was under the impression the juniors would finally fund themselves seperate from the seniors but no .
All good I said good bye.
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johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Your answers.

My idea , I did it, I was surprised the seniors allowed it, that is the main reason I got involved back then, then they were not happy so they asked me to step down so I resigned all together.

You are getting there but you still have NOT answered all six (6) questions. I was editing my post and you jumped the gun.

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I heard you two are down the hall from each other at glenside.

Cant you just meet in the mess hall and discuss this there after dinner?
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El Paso del Norte wrote:I heard you two are down the hall from each other at glenside.

Cant you just meet in the mess hall and discuss this there after dinner?



I heard that he is in the same ward as you. Can you ask him to answer all my questions? :lol:

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El Paso del Norte wrote:I heard you two are down the hall from each other at glenside.

Cant you just meet in the mess hall and discuss this there after dinner?



I heard that he is in the same ward as you. Can you ask him to answer all my questions? :lol:
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Shoot goal

This is almost 16 years ago.

To my amazement I have stated this before on FN, approx late 2000's Alex comes to my residence at Prospect with OCBA paperwork asking me sign over Park B 27 etc.
So for years after I was asked to step down they were running Park B27 and the juniors there with me as main signatory!!!!!!
Also wah2 formed from breaking away from Olympic , me being main signatory and no say on any of it????

I signed over the papers in good faith in the late 2000's but how it was all done I still have major ????? On the whole shemozzle.

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United We Stand wrote:
El Paso del Norte wrote:I heard you two are down the hall from each other at glenside.

Cant you just meet in the mess hall and discuss this there after dinner?



I heard that he is in the same ward as you. Can you ask him to answer all my questions? :lol:
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Defamatory suggest retract ASAP ?

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El Paso, all I want is the answer to these questions as several WA people give a different account of those events. As, I am sick of JD and his self-glorification and dodgy answers, I wanted to clear it up once and for all by asking these specific questions. I am also asking on behalf of certain people who were involved at the Juniors in the past. I want to see if he can give a straight answer to these questions. Traditionally, he hasn't been clear or dodged the issues.


I promise to not carry this on if he can give answers which can be verified. We will all know that the "other" account of events is true if he doesn't answer. He has started to answer these questions but again dodged a few important ones.

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johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

This is almost 16 years ago.

To my amazement I have stated this before on FN, approx late 2000's Alex comes to my residence at Prospect with OCBA paperwork asking me sign over Park B 27 etc.
So for years after I was asked to step down they were running Park B27 and the juniors there with me as main signatory!!!!!!
Also wah2 formed from breaking away from Olympic , me being main signatory and no say on any of it????

I signed over the papers in good faith in the late 2000's but how it was all done I still have major ????? On the whole shemozzle.

These are NOT answers to my questions JD.

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