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Sad day for free speech. Are we in North Korea? Pathetic really.
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It's his website, agree with him or shiraz off.

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Seeing as he wants to meet GIAE, has he been invited to the lunch?
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Bomber wrote:Sad day for free speech. Are we in North Korea? Pathetic really.
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Bomber wrote:Sad day for free speech. Are we in North Korea? Pathetic really.
Really?
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Yes really. Its piss poor. And this "its his website" stuff doesnt wash either. He has created something which has attracted people from all walks of life to contribute to a discussion forum. Its probably grown bigger than expectations. In fact, very few local football people DONT know of football news website.
Imagine if Bill Gates suddenly thought, I dont like computers and the internet any more...........I will shut them all down for good. That would be pathetic, yes?
Until lately, it was a mix of discussion, debate, humour, and information gathering, but soon as someone doesnt like what someone says, whoosh..........you're out! Yet racist comments conveniently slip through.
If admin is too busy, then simple, let his self appointed mods run the show..........at least SOME of them have an idea and dont sook at every little thing they dont like.
Finally, do we need to advertise use of foe function more widely? That way, it is so simple for those with thin skins to merely adopt it against all the nasties and "bullies" out there.
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Bomber wrote:Yes really. Its piss poor. And this "its his website" stuff doesnt wash either. He has created something which has attracted people from all walks of life to contribute to a discussion forum. Its probably grown bigger than expectations. In fact, very few local football people DONT know of football news website.
Imagine if Bill Gates suddenly thought, I dont like computers and the internet any more...........I will shut them all down for good. That would be pathetic, yes?
Until lately, it was a mix of discussion, debate, humour, and information gathering, but soon as someone doesnt like what someone says, whoosh..........you're out! Yet racist comments conveniently slip through.
If admin is too busy, then simple, let his self appointed mods run the show..........at least SOME of them have an idea and dont sook at every little thing they dont like.
Finally, do we need to advertise use of foe function more widely? That way, it is so simple for those with thin skins to merely adopt it against all the nasties and "bullies" out there.
Just wow. What a spoilt little brat attitude you have there, Bomber. Admin puts his hand in his pocket year after year and provides this site for free, so yes "its (sic) his website". End of. If he decides to cut off a handful of users because he believes they are constantly hijacking threads for their own amusement to the detriment of the usability of the site, that's his call. Hell, even if he bans someone because he personally doesn't like them, that's also his call. If you don't like it, that's your call. You're not entitled to this site, it is someone's personal project - just remember that. In your Bill Gates scenario, there would be an opening for someone to fill in the void in the market and reap the benefits. Do you see the huge opportunity you've been given? You can create a bigger and better website from your own funds and take on Football News and watch all the users flock to your better managed site. Perhaps spread the cost amongst your "followers". Opportunities like this don't come along too often, so don't regret what might have been.
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When you compare the original thread and original ban to what consistently gets untouched all you can do is shake your head.
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bob saget wrote:
Bomber wrote:Yes really. Its piss poor. And this "its his website" stuff doesnt wash either. He has created something which has attracted people from all walks of life to contribute to a discussion forum. Its probably grown bigger than expectations. In fact, very few local football people DONT know of football news website.
Imagine if Bill Gates suddenly thought, I dont like computers and the internet any more...........I will shut them all down for good. That would be pathetic, yes?
Until lately, it was a mix of discussion, debate, humour, and information gathering, but soon as someone doesnt like what someone says, whoosh..........you're out! Yet racist comments conveniently slip through.
If admin is too busy, then simple, let his self appointed mods run the show..........at least SOME of them have an idea and dont sook at every little thing they dont like.
Finally, do we need to advertise use of foe function more widely? That way, it is so simple for those with thin skins to merely adopt it against all the nasties and "bullies" out there.
Just wow. What a spoilt little brat attitude you have there, Bomber. Admin puts his hand in his pocket year after year and provides this site for free, so yes "its (sic) his website". End of. If he decides to cut off a handful of users because he believes they are constantly hijacking threads for their own amusement to the detriment of the usability of the site, that's his call. Hell, even if he bans someone because he personally doesn't like them, that's also his call. If you don't like it, that's your call. You're not entitled to this site, it is someone's personal project - just remember that. In your Bill Gates scenario, there would be an opening for someone to fill in the void in the market and reap the benefits. Do you see the huge opportunity you've been given? You can create a bigger and better website from your own funds and take on Football News and watch all the users flock to your better managed site. Perhaps spread the cost amongst your "followers". Opportunities like this don't come along too often, so don't regret what might have been.
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bob saget wrote:
Bomber wrote:Yes really. Its piss poor. And this "its his website" stuff doesnt wash either. He has created something which has attracted people from all walks of life to contribute to a discussion forum. Its probably grown bigger than expectations. In fact, very few local football people DONT know of football news website.
Imagine if Bill Gates suddenly thought, I dont like computers and the internet any more...........I will shut them all down for good. That would be pathetic, yes?
Until lately, it was a mix of discussion, debate, humour, and information gathering, but soon as someone doesnt like what someone says, whoosh..........you're out! Yet racist comments conveniently slip through.
If admin is too busy, then simple, let his self appointed mods run the show..........at least SOME of them have an idea and dont sook at every little thing they dont like.
Finally, do we need to advertise use of foe function more widely? That way, it is so simple for those with thin skins to merely adopt it against all the nasties and "bullies" out there.
Just wow. What a spoilt little brat attitude you have there, Bomber. Admin puts his hand in his pocket year after year and provides this site for free, so yes "its (sic) his website". End of. If he decides to cut off a handful of users because he believes they are constantly hijacking threads for their own amusement to the detriment of the usability of the site, that's his call. Hell, even if he bans someone because he personally doesn't like them, that's also his call. If you don't like it, that's your call. You're not entitled to this site, it is someone's personal project - just remember that. In your Bill Gates scenario, there would be an opening for someone to fill in the void in the market and reap the benefits. Do you see the huge opportunity you've been given? You can create a bigger and better website from your own funds and take on Football News and watch all the users flock to your better managed site. Perhaps spread the cost amongst your "followers". Opportunities like this don't come along too often, so don't regret what might have been.
You're right it is a take it or leave it proposition that Footballnews is, however does that mean that racism and other issues should be allowed to flourish without being countered?
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Black_Panther wrote:You're right it is a take it or leave it proposition that Footballnews is, however does that mean that racism and other issues should be allowed to flourish without being countered?
Racism should never be tolerated and is a very serious accusation. If you truly believe there has been racism on this forum, you should have it investigated.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/complain ... laint-form

Let us know how it goes.
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bob saget wrote:
Black_Panther wrote:You're right it is a take it or leave it proposition that Footballnews is, however does that mean that racism and other issues should be allowed to flourish without being countered?
Racism should never be tolerated and is a very serious accusation. If you truly believe there has been racism on this forum, you should have it investigated.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/complain ... laint-form

Let us know how it goes.
So you believe that these guys were right to point out issues affecting the website but you agree that they should be banned as well??
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Black_Panther wrote:
bob saget wrote:
Black_Panther wrote:You're right it is a take it or leave it proposition that Footballnews is, however does that mean that racism and other issues should be allowed to flourish without being countered?
Racism should never be tolerated and is a very serious accusation. If you truly believe there has been racism on this forum, you should have it investigated.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/complain ... laint-form

Let us know how it goes.
So you believe that these guys were right to point out issues affecting the website but you agree that they should be banned as well??
Interesting conclusion you've reached from the previous posts. Please elaborate.
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bob saget wrote:
Bomber wrote:Yes really. Its piss poor. And this "its his website" stuff doesnt wash either. He has created something which has attracted people from all walks of life to contribute to a discussion forum. Its probably grown bigger than expectations. In fact, very few local football people DONT know of football news website.
Imagine if Bill Gates suddenly thought, I dont like computers and the internet any more...........I will shut them all down for good. That would be pathetic, yes?
Until lately, it was a mix of discussion, debate, humour, and information gathering, but soon as someone doesnt like what someone says, whoosh..........you're out! Yet racist comments conveniently slip through.
If admin is too busy, then simple, let his self appointed mods run the show..........at least SOME of them have an idea and dont sook at every little thing they dont like.
Finally, do we need to advertise use of foe function more widely? That way, it is so simple for those with thin skins to merely adopt it against all the nasties and "bullies" out there.
Just wow. What a spoilt little brat attitude you have there, Bomber. Admin puts his hand in his pocket year after year and provides this site for free, so yes "its (sic) his website". End of. If he decides to cut off a handful of users because he believes they are constantly hijacking threads for their own amusement to the detriment of the usability of the site, that's his call. Hell, even if he bans someone because he personally doesn't like them, that's also his call. If you don't like it, that's your call. You're not entitled to this site, it is someone's personal project - just remember that. In your Bill Gates scenario, there would be an opening for someone to fill in the void in the market and reap the benefits. Do you see the huge opportunity you've been given? You can create a bigger and better website from your own funds and take on Football News and watch all the users flock to your better managed site. Perhaps spread the cost amongst your "followers". Opportunities like this don't come along too often, so don't regret what might have been.
You sound like Sepp Blatter who thinks he owns the game because he's FIFA president.

No argument that it might be admin's "personal project" - if its so dear to his heart, why is there never much time to devote to it? To me it cant be more than a passing interest.

The main point of all this is freedom of speech which digs deeper than "what's mine or yours".

Racism, ok, but "negativity" (often containing the truth), hell no!

Fine, ban everyone except the fluffy "positive I like AU" people. Then watch all the characters leave, and it will just be a matter of time the rest go on about how tediously boring it has become. If without reality checks about certain aspects of the game go un-noticed or un-reported, then that doesnt enhance the game at all. It just sweeps it under the carpet and hence will have a negative impact long term.

Discussion forums are exactly that. Well, it was once.
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All this to and froing made me think of this song....

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Regardless of who is right and who is wrong there are some people behaving like spoilt children on here.
No one would likes being constantly criticised openly on a public forum, especially if you are spending lots of quiet time behind the scenes fixing up technical issues, upgrading software etc on a voluntary basis I would think that very few, (including myself) would appreciate how much time it takes to facillitate the running of a forum.
I am thankful to FootballNews for re-igniting my interest in the local game, helping me network, giving me a vehicle for photo game reoports and airing my views.
I have had a few issues with moderators but you move on, some however, enjoy pushing the boundaries and goading moderators and admin.
It would be nice of admin to undo recent reactionary bans but my gut feeling is that most of the ensuing comments, thread topics etc aren't helping much toward that end.
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bob saget wrote:
Bomber wrote:Yes really. Its piss poor. And this "its his website" stuff doesnt wash either. He has created something which has attracted people from all walks of life to contribute to a discussion forum. Its probably grown bigger than expectations. In fact, very few local football people DONT know of football news website.
Imagine if Bill Gates suddenly thought, I dont like computers and the internet any more...........I will shut them all down for good. That would be pathetic, yes?
Until lately, it was a mix of discussion, debate, humour, and information gathering, but soon as someone doesnt like what someone says, whoosh..........you're out! Yet racist comments conveniently slip through.
If admin is too busy, then simple, let his self appointed mods run the show..........at least SOME of them have an idea and dont sook at every little thing they dont like.
Finally, do we need to advertise use of foe function more widely? That way, it is so simple for those with thin skins to merely adopt it against all the nasties and "bullies" out there.
Just wow. What a spoilt little brat attitude you have there, Bomber. Admin puts his hand in his pocket year after year and provides this site for free, so yes "its (sic) his website". End of. If he decides to cut off a handful of users because he believes they are constantly hijacking threads for their own amusement to the detriment of the usability of the site, that's his call. Hell, even if he bans someone because he personally doesn't like them, that's also his call. If you don't like it, that's your call. You're not entitled to this site, it is someone's personal project - just remember that. In your Bill Gates scenario, there would be an opening for someone to fill in the void in the market and reap the benefits. Do you see the huge opportunity you've been given? You can create a bigger and better website from your own funds and take on Football News and watch all the users flock to your better managed site. Perhaps spread the cost amongst your "followers". Opportunities like this don't come along too often, so don't regret what might have been.
Well said.

This place started to drop members a while ago, when the moderation dropped off. There are posts from months ago asking 'why so quiet'. Debating turned into baiting. Users with multiple personality user syndrome would post banal comments, opening a thread was more likely to waste time than stimulate debate or discussion. The product kept the majority of users away. Only a few enjoyed the way the forum was heading.

As with any product or service - improve it for the masses, or watch it die.

ADMIN should be commended for what he has given to football and SA. The disrespect he has received from a few users is poor form. Go on a few of the other football forums and read their user policy.

Thank you Admin, keep up the good work.

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Please contact FootballNews via email. Email will get the highest priority and fastest response. Contact by phone will only result in a message being taken and submitted via email to the webmaster.

Mission

* To promote South Australian football.
* To provide an independent voice for the most important stakeholders in Australian football - the supporters
* To foster understanding and break down the traditional barriers in the football community that have held back the sport in Australia.
* To demonstrate to the wider community the underlying popularity and strength of local football.

History

The FootballNews site was first established in 1998. It started out as a project to develop a .asp toolkit of functions to support database driven websites. The .asp tools were developed and SoccerNews, as it was then named, was created to test them.

There was no fanfare about the launch of SoccerNews. After all its purpose was to test the .asp toolkit and at the same time do a little promotion of the local game. It went online quietly. But word of mouth spread quickly and the test site suddenly became very quite popular.

While we continued to enhance the .asp toolkit the popularity of the site grew and grew. We were surprised by its popularity. Despite its largely South Australian focus and its un-official status, SoccerNews was ranked in the top five soccer websites in Australia. Before long we had dropped our focus on testing our .asp toolkit - and were now focussed on improving the functionality of SoccerNews to promote the local game.

At the time of its development SoccerNews was utilising leading edge technology and techniques. The back-end was was quite sophisticated though the front end of the site was quite basic. One problem area was the performance of the site - there was an irritating performance problem that would inexplicably crop up every few months grinding the site to a halt. Over several years we spent months trawling over all the code underlying the site in search of the cause of the performance problem. We incorrectly believed there had to be a fault in the programming. Then we discovered others who were having similarly problems. Soon it became obvious that the cause of the problem was a bug in the Microsoft IIS webserver software - a bug Microsoft had known about for several years but had not fixed. We immediately decided it was time to move to a more robust and open software platform.

In late 2003 we commenced planning FootballNews v2. We developed a functional specification, a database specification and selected new hardware and software platforms. By mid 2004 we commenced the coding phase utilising one part time programmer. The project moved forward slowly. We had under-estimated the amount of code that we had created over the five plus years of SoccerNews v1. So by mid 2005 we put a second programmer onto the project.

By the end of 2005 the original project was nearing completion. However we decided there was no need to rush the project into production and opted to add some further functionality. The project was finally completed in March 2006 and FootballNews v2 was launched on the 31st of March 2006.

FootballNews is one of the most popular football related websites in Australia. It is ranked in the top five Australian football sites taking approximately 40 million hits a year.

Credits

There are many individuals who have contributed to FootballNews since 1998. Here is a list of some of the major contributors.

Developers:
Grant Williamson (v1)
Karl Castle (v1 and v2)
Andrew Duxorth (v2)

V2 Specifications:
Matthew Berry
Warwick Groves

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I don't have a problem with moderation. It just seems that the small thing that sparked the whole thing was a very trivial post to warrant moving the thread to the wild west and then the subsequent banning when you consider what gets overlooked and left there for everyone to see in what seemed like an eternity.
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I love this spoilt brats analogy. Think about whats been going on lately and see who the real sooks and "spolit brats" are.

End of, I dont think anyone isnt grateful for what admin has created and maintained, but knee-jerk reactions are what bemuses so many and lack of consistency (moderation) has been evident for years.

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johnydep wrote:Users with multiple personality user syndrome would post banal comments, opening a thread was more likely to waste time than stimulate debate or discussion.
johndedes gets away with it because a) He's Greek or b) there's only one him?
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Bomber wrote:I love this spoilt brats analogy. Think about whats been going on lately and see who the real sooks and "spolit brats" are.

End of, I dont think anyone isnt grateful for what admin has created and maintained, but knee-jerk reactions are what bemuses so many and lack of consistency (moderation) has been evident for years.

Is life really so serious?
I guess with 41000+ posts it must be :shock:
BTW What's a "spolit brat" ?
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swannsong


All this to and froing made me think of this song....

you don't live in Nth Adl do you????

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johnydep wrote:
bob saget wrote:
Bomber wrote:Yes really. Its piss poor. And this "its his website" stuff doesnt wash either. He has created something which has attracted people from all walks of life to contribute to a discussion forum. Its probably grown bigger than expectations. In fact, very few local football people DONT know of football news website.
Imagine if Bill Gates suddenly thought, I dont like computers and the internet any more...........I will shut them all down for good. That would be pathetic, yes?
Until lately, it was a mix of discussion, debate, humour, and information gathering, but soon as someone doesnt like what someone says, whoosh..........you're out! Yet racist comments conveniently slip through.
If admin is too busy, then simple, let his self appointed mods run the show..........at least SOME of them have an idea and dont sook at every little thing they dont like.
Finally, do we need to advertise use of foe function more widely? That way, it is so simple for those with thin skins to merely adopt it against all the nasties and "bullies" out there.
Just wow. What a spoilt little brat attitude you have there, Bomber. Admin puts his hand in his pocket year after year and provides this site for free, so yes "its (sic) his website". End of. If he decides to cut off a handful of users because he believes they are constantly hijacking threads for their own amusement to the detriment of the usability of the site, that's his call. Hell, even if he bans someone because he personally doesn't like them, that's also his call. If you don't like it, that's your call. You're not entitled to this site, it is someone's personal project - just remember that. In your Bill Gates scenario, there would be an opening for someone to fill in the void in the market and reap the benefits. Do you see the huge opportunity you've been given? You can create a bigger and better website from your own funds and take on Football News and watch all the users flock to your better managed site. Perhaps spread the cost amongst your "followers". Opportunities like this don't come along too often, so don't regret what might have been.
Well said.

This place started to drop members a while ago, when the moderation dropped off. There are posts from months ago asking 'why so quiet'. Debating turned into baiting. Users with multiple personality user syndrome would post banal comments, opening a thread was more likely to waste time than stimulate debate or discussion. The product kept the majority of users away. Only a few enjoyed the way the forum was heading.

As with any product or service - improve it for the masses, or watch it die.

ADMIN should be commended for what he has given to football and SA. The disrespect he has received from a few users is poor form. Go on a few of the other football forums and read their user policy.

Thank you Admin, keep up the good work.
That's all well and good if he wasn't just banning people for disagreeing with him, locking threads because they show him to be lying or just banning people without even being able to provide a reason.
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MegaBonus wrote:
swannsong


All this to and froing made me think of this song....

you don't live in Nth Adl do you????
Sorry MB, don't understand the North Adelaide reference :?
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SA Tourism Minister Leon Bignell states that he wrote to the Stones management saying that North Adelaide residents had requested that the concert end at 10.30pm (The Advertiser, yesterday).

His letter went on tell the Stones to play as long as they like and at 10.30 to play You can't always get what you want.

guess what song the Stones played at 10.30pm???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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