NTC to remain in the WNPL in 2020

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NTC to remain in the WNPL in 2020

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The NTC have been given the all clear to remain the WNPL in 2020. Unfortunately, Salisbury United will not be promoted as they are unable to meet the criteria.
Again, the FFSA fail to get the competition right with their policies and competition rules. It's simple, create a rule that all division 1 clubs must meet the same criteria as the WNPL and this will avoid embarrassment like this. Further to this, WNPL clubs must not have teams in Div 1. It would be a laughing stock if a WNPL club won the league but are unable to be promoted.
It's just common sense.

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Do you ever have anything positive to say about anything?

Picking on the NTC team now?

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Sportsbird is not picking on anyone at all, she's merely pointing out a fact.

I spoke to the Federation the other month who told me that United were 100% going up and NTC were 100% coming down to Div 1 in 2020. The Federation also ensured me they would work with United to help them achieve WNPL accreditation and would find a solution to ensure they go up. United are too strong for Div 1 and the girls worked damn hard this year to win the league and deserve the chance to play WNPL.

Whilst junior accreditation is important, we need to stop being black and white with the rules! The North is saturated with clubs and it makes it difficult for clubs to get a junior team together when there are large established clubs. The South, not so much so it wouldn't be as hard. If a team who is wanted to get into WNPL has at least 2 senior teams (outside of the WNPL and Res) and can show progression, why can't we allow them into WNPL??? By allowing them in, it would make them attractive and therefore atract juniors. The cart doesn't allways follow the horse, sometimes we need the horse to follow the cart!

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sportsbird wrote:The NTC have been given the all clear to remain the WNPL in 2020. Unfortunately, Salisbury United will not be promoted as they are unable to meet the criteria.
Again, the FFSA fail to get the competition right with their policies and competition rules. It's simple, create a rule that all division 1 clubs must meet the same criteria as the WNPL and this will avoid embarrassment like this. Further to this, WNPL clubs must not have teams in Div 1. It would be a laughing stock if a WNPL club won the league but are unable to be promoted.
It's just common sense.
By that logic, Div 1 would've only consisted of Modbury Vista and Cumberland United this year. Modbury Jets and Adelaide Jaguars from Div 2 would also qualify.
The State League format from a few years ago tried to encourage clubs to build their structure with a solid junior base and two competitive senior team, but very few clubs have actually been able to do this.
Does SA have the depth of talent to support more WNPL clubs? By that I mean not just another team at WNPL level, but one with a strong junior program to feed into the WNPL, good quality coaching structure, committee support etc.

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Rascal21 wrote:Sportsbird is not picking on anyone at all, she's merely pointing out a fact.

I spoke to the Federation the other month who told me that United were 100% going up and NTC were 100% coming down to Div 1 in 2020. The Federation also ensured me they would work with United to help them achieve WNPL accreditation and would find a solution to ensure they go up. United are too strong for Div 1 and the girls worked damn hard this year to win the league and deserve the chance to play WNPL.

Whilst junior accreditation is important, we need to stop being black and white with the rules! The North is saturated with clubs and it makes it difficult for clubs to get a junior team together when there are large established clubs. The South, not so much so it wouldn't be as hard. If a team who is wanted to get into WNPL has at least 2 senior teams (outside of the WNPL and Res) and can show progression, why can't we allow them into WNPL??? By allowing them in, it would make them attractive and therefore atract juniors. The cart doesn't allways follow the horse, sometimes we need the horse to follow the cart!
So you're saying any club without a recent track record of investing in womens football can just attract a bunch of strong seniors, get promoted to WNPL, crash and burn because they don't have the right intentions nor support base to sustain performance, and then what happens after relegation? Coach and players leave, club realises it was a massive waste of money for them because they don't actually care about womens football, and back to square one.

If a club is that desperate to be in the WNPL, they will show a track record of investing in Womens football and not flinch when asked.

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https://www.footballsa.com.au/news/medi ... -structure

Salisbury United Football Club (SUFC) advised Football SA on October 24, 2019 that the club has withdrawn from their opportunity to participate in the 2020 WNPLSA, due to not being able to fill the required number of junior girls teams. The club is committed to work with Football SA to expand their junior girls numbers to ensure their ability to participate at the highest level of women’s football in the near future.

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Funny how NTC doss not comply with Junior team requirements...but no allowance fo Salisbury

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Rascal21 wrote:Sportsbird is not picking on anyone at all, she's merely pointing out a fact.

I spoke to the Federation the other month who told me that United were 100% going up and NTC were 100% coming down to Div 1 in 2020. The Federation also ensured me they would work with United to help them achieve WNPL accreditation and would find a solution to ensure they go up. United are too strong for Div 1 and the girls worked damn hard this year to win the league and deserve the chance to play WNPL.

Whilst junior accreditation is important, we need to stop being black and white with the rules! The North is saturated with clubs and it makes it difficult for clubs to get a junior team together when there are large established clubs. The South, not so much so it wouldn't be as hard. If a team who is wanted to get into WNPL has at least 2 senior teams (outside of the WNPL and Res) and can show progression, why can't we allow them into WNPL??? By allowing them in, it would make them attractive and therefore atract juniors. The cart doesn't allways follow the horse, sometimes we need the horse to follow the cart!
Thanks Rascal21, I am actually excited the NTC will be in the WNPL in 2020. If the NTC was relegated, it would have been detrimental to the NTC players.
If the NTC had been relegated, majority of the players would have been searching for a local club looking for an opportunity to play Premier League, Unfortunately, under the rules of the FFSA competition, Clubs can only secure 3 NTC players. This could have been disastrous to women's football and the players.
It's time the FFSA women's football department get off their posterior and fix the problem.
A simple solution is as follows:
1. Leave the current teams in the WNPL for the next three years until the end of 2022 season.
2. Any D1 clubs intending to be eligible for promotion into the WNPL must fully meet the criteria by the end of season 2021. No ifs or buts.
3. Remove clubs from D1 that currently have a senior side in the WNPL.
4. As Rascal21 commented, the northern clubs are saturated and it's time for the FFSA to intervene and form a sub-committee consisting all inner northern clubs to discuss a strategy to create a northern super club. This could also be done in the south.
5. Remove the three NTC player rule. Absolutely ludicrous.
6. Reduce the amount of players selected in the FFSA state teams and the NTC.
I have more suggestions, but it can wait later.

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Agree 100% on points 2.3.5 and 6.

Freezing clubs out for even one season undercuts recruitment and retention and non-promotion will become a self fulfilling prophecy.

Where does the "inner north" super club zone start and finish?

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