Player movements before June cut off

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Player movements before June cut off

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I have heard from a few different sources that some players are considering moving club before the end of June cut off ?
The majority I’ve heard about are from the teams stacked with talented individuals (West and Metro) who aren’t getting significant game time week in week out. I’ve also heard mention of a few better players in struggling sides (Fulham and Cumberland) looking for a change of scene?

Can anyone shed more light on whether these rumours are true? Will there perhaps be a reshuffle of players before the June cut off?... that would be an interesting curveball for the league

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Not heard this Armadillo. (good name btw).

Well westies have lost Ladas to Uni. Not sure who else may be looking for an opportunity.

Yes they and Metro recruited in the off season and brought in some top end talent and some that are looking for another chance with another club. They have all been firing. It's a long season so I'd be working hard at training and with whatever time you have been provided make it count. A good club should always be challenging players to earn and keep their spots. Those players you mention may take the option and transfer to another team in the quests for more game time however, that's no guarantee. Teams are looking to stabilise their starting 11 and build consistency. Will gaining a spot in a team out of the top 4 provide the environment to shine. Ariana Jones, McCormick & Co have made it in to such teams and whilst they are class acts, they need the support from a good team around them to deliver their best.

I suppose this is the environment the top teams have bene building towards and the level of competition shows that it is working.

Hard situation for those players though.


Armadillo wrote:I have heard from a few different sources that some players are considering moving club before the end of June cut off ?
The majority I’ve heard about are from the teams stacked with talented individuals (West and Metro) who aren’t getting significant game time week in week out. I’ve also heard mention of a few better players in struggling sides (Fulham and Cumberland) looking for a change of scene?

Can anyone shed more light on whether these rumours are true? Will there perhaps be a reshuffle of players before the June cut off?... that would be an interesting curveball for the league

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I have not heard those rumours but in my opinion the current cut off date for transfers is far too late. Personally I think a more appropriate time (to be fairer for clubs but still give players some flexibility to move) would be if the FFSA changed it to say by the end of round 5. This would avoid the potential for “curve balls” that Armadillo suggest may happen this season.

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I think there are many other variables to consider in whether or not a transfer is approved by the FFSA. One is the Player Points System. Depending on where a club sits in the total point weighting including how many W league players on their roster will determine which club/s are able to take them on (if they are players that attract a hefty points weighting).

That's my take on the PPS

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Each club only gets 3 W-League players (who were contracted this past season), regardless of how many overall player points they have.

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There needs to be an incentive for W league & NTC players to return to their club of origin.

PPS can work but needs to be stricter than the men’s one, or clubs have limited transfers to play with each window, ie can only replace departing players ect
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For someone on the outside, what intice players to change club being I’m led to believe money isn’t involved?

Trophies?
Pathways?
Friends?
Coaches?
Clubs?
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Opportunities?
Development?

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I think that in the WNPL atm, two of the biggest factors are coaching, and playing time. Sometimes when a player is used to starting and then for whatever reason becomes a bench player or worse a reserves player, they will look to move to a club where they can start in Prems again. Who is coaching, and the quality of that coaching is also important. Sometimes it can be money, but it is still not most important for most as not all of the clubs pay their players- more are now but not all. And, in the open they can only pay so much per amateur rules...
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What factors determine which club a player goes to OR why they leave a club?

The demands upon clubs by the top echelon of players will only continue to grow as the NTC players continue to flow through to the WNPL. They are used to the best and will expect the best from a potential club. Why not!!! This will only raise the bar higher.

What do those players look for in a club (no particular order)?
1) Ability to play with players of equal or better ability so that they can excel
2) Stability in the team/coaching to enable the above
3) Strong off field set up ie trainers, strength and conditioning and recovery programs to enable points 1 and 2
4) Remuneration is a consideration for the mid-range players because the top echelon most often than not look for a strong team with quality to enhance or showcase their abilities

Players are demanding an environment where they can achieve their best.

City, Metro and West Adelaide are examples where they attract quality players and retain them. if clubs do not, progress and develop they will end up at the bottom.
Moral of the story is that good clubs don’t lose good players. Many factors come into the equation.

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SAD GAL. Agree with some of your comments except your comment “moral of the story is that good clubs do not lose good players”. You mentioned earlier today that Ladas just left West. I would have thought that she would be rated as good considering 2 seasons ago she was in the Adelaide United women squad?

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Coyote wrote:SAD GAL. Agree with some of your comments except your comment “moral of the story is that good clubs do not lose good players”. You mentioned earlier today that Ladas just left West. I would have thought that she would be rated as good considering 2 seasons ago she was in the Adelaide United women squad?


Ally Ladas suffered a bad injury (Stress fracture) at AU preseason and was unable to train for a couple of months.She was going to have a break from the game as she was going overseas in May. Her decision to play a few games at Uni had nothing to do with her form or ability as Coyote rightfully points out.


P.S My apologies for the lateness of this post. I was told all this whilst visiting Adelaide (I am working in London) recently.

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Mellanye Targino – Metro United WFC (WNPL) to Western Strikers (State League)

Taylor Garrett – Adelaide University (WNPL) to Salisbury United (State League)

Elle Pirintzis – Metro United WFC (WNPL) to Adelaide University (WNPL)

Ally Ladas – West Adelaide (WNPL) to Adelaide University (WNPL)

Jessica Goldfinch – Fulham United (WNPL) to Adelaide City (WNPL)

Elyse Moon – Adelaide City (WNPL) to Adelaide University (WNPL)

Esther Heywood-Smith –Adelaide University (WNPL) to Salisbury Inter (WNPL)


http://www.ffsa.com.au/transfer-centre- ... ns-update/

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Word is that Steve Maxwell has resigned as Cumberland prems coach......?????
Guess for anyone wanting a fresh start under a new coach maybe Cumberland is the team worth considering before the cut off!

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That's big news re: Maxy. Can't say I've seen him happy at the games this season. I always said he's only a striker or two away from top 4 and I still hold that to be true. With a bunch of players coming out of the NTC with past ties to Cumby, I'd say he be mad to leave now. Then again it may be that he's spent. A short time away may prove beneficial.

Sad thing is that this time last year we were commenting on the quality of coaches in the WNPL with the likes of Santrac, Maxy, McCormack, Primaro, Spagnoletti, Pezos and Jenkins. Santrac departed, now Maxy (if rumours are true) and Pezos (albeit he's still coaching unofficially) and Jenkins departing Uni to head up White City with a finger in the Salisbury camp.

Pleasingly Primaro quitting then only to be resurrected mid season.

Good thing Jenkins has now senior coach at Inter (tick tick) and Primaro has come out of retirement to slip back into the coaching ranks at Fulham (assistant or ??).

Season 2018 may see a couple of head coaches depart the WNPL.

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footballfan444 wrote:Word is that Steve Maxwell has resigned as Cumberland prems coach......?????
Guess for anyone wanting a fresh start under a new coach maybe Cumberland is the team worth considering before the cut off!
Apparently, he was fired due to an incident at the game the other week, according to Cumby players.

The other news I heard was that the Prems Uni keeper is moving to Westies.

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West Adelaide seem to be picking up a couple. Stay tuned...

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For me, stick with what you got KM. Westies have some good talent on the park (excellent) that haven't quite gelled but they will.

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Maxwell was extremely unprofessional in a lot of his dealings, tactically unintelligent and very poor at managing people. Was doing the club no favours in the long run.

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Pitchy wrote:
footballfan444 wrote:Word is that Steve Maxwell has resigned as Cumberland prems coach......?????
Guess for anyone wanting a fresh start under a new coach maybe Cumberland is the team worth considering before the cut off!
Apparently, he was fired due to an incident at the game the other week, according to Cumby players.

The other news I heard was that the Prems Uni keeper is moving to Westies.
Why? She isn't going to displace Willacy.

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I believe Sarah has had surgery on one of her ankles/feet. I think she’s out for a bit. West Adelaide had Ruth Wallace in goals last Sunday v. City. It would appear they need a keeper.

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I have heard that Cumberlands Captain has signed with West Adelaide ?? that could be a big blow to their chance or survival in the wnpl if it is true

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Armadillo wrote:I have heard that Cumberlands Captain has signed with West Adelaide ?? that could be a big blow to their chance or survival in the wnpl if it is true
If true, its a massive blow.

Fulham have more confidence now, plus more player depth and some momentum.

Given Cumberland's loss of captain and coach, relegation is now a strong possibility.

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WOW. Cumby's in dire straits and Fulham on the rise with depth?

Let's see how that pans out tomorrow and the next few weeks.

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I've now heard from a good source that she is registered and able to play. I am curious to go watch how tomorrow night plays out as West are playing Cumby.... That on top of Maxy's departure earlier in the week. Fulham should be feeling confident they can tip the scale now

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Very interesting developments at Cumberland. Not being involved with that club, I can only go on what people have stated over the last couple of days so I can not confirm what has actually transpired. If the captain has resigned though with just 6 matches remaining with her team so close to being relegated, this would seem to me an intriguing decision by her. Surely, there must be more to this story......

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My thoughts exactly Coyote.... having seen her stick by the Cumberland side through relegation battles in the past couple of years, it does make one question what is going on behind closed doors at the club.
A mess for them but a very exciting opportunity for the improving Fulham girls to take advantage and keep another large club in the wnpl

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I would be disappointed to see either one of those clubs relegated. Both have been in the prems for a long time and have contributed a lot to the women's game. I think it will be sad either way.

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