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Slinky_Pete wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:See a British swimmer staged a podium protest about Chinese swimmer Sun Yang.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/swimming-w ... 881269403z
A Scot, an American and a South African have also voiced their problems with sun yang.


But yeah, its just the bad sports in Australia......
Now watch the Brits go hiding on this topic........
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Bomber wrote:
Slinky_Pete wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:See a British swimmer staged a podium protest about Chinese swimmer Sun Yang.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/swimming-w ... 881269403z
A Scot, an American and a South African have also voiced their problems with sun yang.


But yeah, its just the bad sports in Australia......
Now watch the Brits go hiding on this topic........

Or claim that Scotland is not British...
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Scotland isn't English.

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Eyjafjallajökull wrote:Scotland isn't English.
He's representing GB though (person in question). I referred to the "Brits" - the poms will still accept the jocks medals.
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Grosso gone quiet...................................again.

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Bomber wrote:
Eyjafjallajökull wrote:Scotland isn't English.
He's representing GB though (person in question). I referred to the "Brits" - the poms will still accept the jocks medals.
Duncan Scott is Scottish but Adam Peaty is English.

Both "boycotting" Yang.

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ozzie owl wrote:Grosso gone quiet...................................again.
Aussie bad sports and pom bad sports, colour Grosso surprised...what do you want me to say?

Get a clue about some facts...
Most commentary around Sun this week has neatly summed him up as a swimmer who was banned for doping in 2014 and more recently used a hammer to smash vials of his own blood to avoid detection.

The established facts of both cases are far less emphatic.

Five years ago Sun tested positive for a stimulant called trimetazidine, which had only been banned four months earlier. Sun said he was prescribed the medication for heart palpitations and was unaware it had been listed by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

He would have been eligible to file the drug for a medical exemption because of his heart condition (a legit issue that forced his last-minute withdrawal from the 1500m at the 2015 world championships when he was a red-hot favourite to win).

WADA reviewed the case file and elected not to proceed any further with it. It’s hardly Ben Johnson-style doping.

Last year’s situation is just as inconclusive. According to reports, Sun was visited by three doping controllers — but only one was properly accredited.

He was filmed without his permission while providing the sample and noticed anomalies in the paperwork — leading to a four-hour standoff which ended with a security guard destroying the vials of blood because Sun’s team had no faith in the process.

An independent panel convened by world swimming governing body FINA found Sun did not commit an anti-doping violation, although the World Anti Doping Agency has appealed the finding.

“The blood that was initially collected (and subsequently destroyed) was not collected with proper authorisation and thus was not properly a ‘sample’ (and) as a result … is invalid and void,” FINA found.

“The conduct on the part of the DCA (doping control assistant) is highly improper and extremely unprofessional. This should never happen …”

Again, you can argue where there’s smoke, there’s fire. But as former Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority CEO Richard Ings said this week, governing bodies can only deal with facts.

“I am no fan of Sun Yang,” Ings tweeted. “But he has served his suspension for a doping violation and he has been cleared by a FINA panel of refusing to provide a sample. Innocent unless and until proven guilty.”
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Grosso complaining about racism what an oxymoron.

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Thanks Grosso.

So WADA are appealing FINA's finding.

Arent they a higher authority?

Are WADA just some Anglos?

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ozzie owl wrote:Grosso complaining about racism what an oxymoron.
You're off by 3 letters.
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Grosso Mk II wrote:gullible anglos at it again cant hide their racism
But you are a skip! How is it you hide between nationalities and feel you can take some sort of moral high ground?
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Raich Carter wrote:
Grosso Mk II wrote:gullible anglos at it again cant hide their racism
But you are a skip! How is it you hide between nationalities and feel you can take some sort of moral high ground?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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What has Peaty done?
West Adelaide Soccer Club president Alex Alexandrou said the club was still in a position to be playing and training at the new ground either by the end of the 2015 season or in 2016.

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Raich Carter wrote:
Grosso Mk II wrote:gullible anglos at it again cant hide their racism
But you are a skip! How is it you hide between nationalities and feel you can take some sort of moral high ground?
remind me again who I'm supposed to be?

do I know you? you don't seem like anyone I'd associate with

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God is an Englishman wrote:What has Peaty done?
Backed Mack.

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Slinky_Pete wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:What has Peaty done?
Backed Mack.
BREAKING: Aussie swimmer Shayna Jack tests positive for banned substance
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:lol: :lol: :lol: skips

seems to be a pattern here

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It would appear Mack Horton knows Jack shit
Time for some righteous indignation

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Grosso Mk II wrote:
Slinky_Pete wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:What has Peaty done?
Backed Mack.
BREAKING: Aussie swimmer Shayna Jack tests positive for banned substance
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:lol: :lol: :lol: skips

seems to be a pattern here
I would hope Mack now doesnt stand on the podium with her.

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Aussie skips always sanctimonious but shown to be hypocrites. When you virtue signal karma will get you.

You're now the laughing stock of the world.

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Not only that but tried to cover it up as well. What protest will Mack do now against his own swimming federation?
West Adelaide Soccer Club president Alex Alexandrou said the club was still in a position to be playing and training at the new ground either by the end of the 2015 season or in 2016.

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Now watch the aussies go hiding on this topic. :lol:

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Absolutely farcical!

We now have no leg to stand on regarding calling out others for drug cheats.
Whether intentional or not she failed both samples - she's a cheat and that's what she should be known as.

Embarrassing given we always try to take the moral high ground
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Frank Costanza

We now have no leg to stand on regarding calling out others for drug cheats.

no...i dont see it like that....as long as we arent hypocritial in our dealings with our own 'cheats'....

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:lol: :lol:

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MegaBonus wrote:
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We now have no leg to stand on regarding calling out others for drug cheats.

no...i dont see it like that....as long as we arent hypocritial in our dealings with our own 'cheats'....

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Frank Costanza wrote:Absolutely farcical!

We now have no leg to stand on regarding calling out others for drug cheats.
Whether intentional or not she failed both samples - she's a cheat and that's what she should be known as.

Embarrassing given we always try to take the moral high ground
Yes we are not alone in that , many countries have condemned drug cheats and then done a back flip when it is one of its own. Amazing how Grosso takes the high moral ground when the statistics on his mob are too pretty daming too.
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Her name is Jack. There's your answer. :P

If she stands on podium (if makes top 3), then fine if others don't.

I'm sure grosso would stand on the podium though - seeing he isn't (supposedly) a "bad sport"?
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Bomber wrote:Her name is Jack. There's your answer. :P

If she stands on podium (if makes top 3), then fine if others don't.

I'm sure grosso would stand on the podium though - seeing he isn't (supposedly) a "bad sport"?

Sorry, but cheating is cheating!
She SHOULD NOT be in the race to begin with.
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Swimming Australia (SA) is standing by Brisbane swimmer Shayna Jack for being "open and honest" about her failed drug test which forced her to withdraw from the national squad before the world championships in South Korea.

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Swimming Australia says Shayna Jack's situation is "quite different" from that of Chinese swimmer Sun Yang
SA became aware of the test result on July 12 and Jack was provisionally suspended
SA says it was prevented from disclosing details because of a privacy agreement struck with ASADA

The 20-year-old was notified by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) that she failed an out-of-competition drug test in late June.

But SA chief executive Leigh Russell told the ABC on Monday Jack's situation was "quite different" from that of China's swimmer Sun Yang, who competed after being cleared of wrongdoing following a random drug test last September.

The World Anti-Doping Agency is appealing that decision.

The Queensland swimmer has said she did not know how the banned substance entered her body, and that it can be found in contaminated supplements.

Ms Russell said SA would be providing support to Jack while ASADA continues its investigations.

"My understanding from Shayna is she doesn't know how she's come into contact with the drug," Ms Russell said.

"She's really been very honest and open with everybody about what she knows about her situation at the moment.

"She's trying to find a reason for this substance in her body. Quite rightly she's asking the question about perhaps what might she have ingested that is contaminated."

Ms Russell denied there was a double standard, after SA backed Mack Horton's protest against Yang.

"I think the two are quite different actually. Mack's protest was about an athlete who is going through a process that was still able to complete at the world championships.

"Our process in Australia is simply that once we have been notified that an athlete has had an adverse test finding, our job is then to remove them immediately from the team environment so they're not able to compete."

Federal Sport Minister Richard Colbeck described the incident as "embarrassing".

Shayna Jack says she had never heard of Ligandrol before testing positive to the banned substance. (AAP: Glenn Hunt)
"We want to see clean sport, that's a very, very clear perspective of the Australian Government, I think the Australian community wants to see clean sport," Mr Colbeck said.

"So we are all concerned that we have this particular event at this point in time, it is embarrassing.

"Obviously we've got a process to go through now to see how it all plays out. But it doesn't really matter whether it's at a global level or whether it's at a local or interstate level, we want sport to be clean, we want athletes to be able to compete against each other on a real basis without any involvement of enhancements."

'Check what you're putting in your body'
Assistant Professor for Sports Management and a lawyer with the University of Canberra, Catherine Ordway, said the onus was on athletes to test any supplements they may have taken.


Australian swimmers have been cheered on for pointing the finger at drug cheats this week. Now with Shayna Jack testing positive, the finger is being pointed back.
"These contaminated supplement type cases are very tricky to prove because it's a very strict liability situation," she said.

"Which means if there's a prohibited substance in your sample which is this case, then the onus is on the athlete to try to get their supplements tested in a laboratory and try to demonstrate that they didn't intentionally put it into their body."

Ms Ordway said it's not unusual for supplements to get contaminated.

"That's why ASADA and body like that put out warnings all the time and do a lot of education with the athletes, particularly elite level ones athletes like Shayna saying don't take supplements.

"If you must take supplements check who the manufacturer is and check what you're putting in your body."

SA initially claimed Jack had left the team for "personal reasons" but two weeks later the swimmer herself revealed on social media she had been forced to withdraw over the test failure.

SA came under fire for its handling of the result, and was accused of trying to cover up the test result.

But Ms Russell said on Monday they had to support the process outlined in their contract agreement with ASADA, which prevents SA from disclosing details.

Jack has vowed to clear her name after it was revealed she tested positive for the banned substance Ligandrol — a drug used to aid muscle growth and treat osteoporosis.
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The Chinese are loving this and now realise the Australian Swim team is dirty and all results are questionable.

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