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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:24 am 
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Michael wrote:
Head dropped for Marsh!

Seriously, if you wanted to drop anyone, drop either Wade, Warner or even Paine before Head!

I would of gone with

Warner
Harris
Marnus
SMITH
Head
Marsh
Wade
Cummins
Starc
Hazlewood
Lyon/Siddle

Paine is the captain he stays in the team.
Head is the future he should be playing.
Warner is the one that should go

Harris
Marnus/Khawaja
Khawaja/Marnus
SMITH
Head
Wade
Paine
Starc
Siddle (retirement match)
Lyon
Hazlewood

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:24 am 
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Lol, drop the winning captain - seriously?

If anything, Marsh in for Wade, leave the rest as is.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:50 pm 
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They needed to drop Warner. How many chances can he get?


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:21 pm 
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Warner won't get dropped, saying that, he will probably score a century in the 5th test..... provided Broad doesn't bowl!


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
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Michael wrote:
Warner won't get dropped, saying that, he will probably score a century in the 5th test..... provided Broad doesn't bowl!


He will do nothing. Just give Broad the wicket


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:09 pm 
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Stoopid decision in dropping Head, the selectors should have just stuck with the same team instead of bringing in Marsh


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:45 am 
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Stoopid decision in dropping Head, the selectors should have just stuck with the same team instead of bringing in Marsh


Best bowling figures. :wink:

Thought mad not to bat first, and drop Starc for Siddle.

Almost like we are playing the junior style where give everyone a game.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:48 am 
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Bomber wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Stoopid decision in dropping Head, the selectors should have just stuck with the same team instead of bringing in Marsh


Best bowling figures. :wink:

Thought mad not to bat first, and drop Starc for Siddle.

Almost like we are playing the junior style where give everyone a game.



His batting has been below average, he needs to make some runs.


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:00 pm 
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Michael wrote:
Bomber wrote:
Rookie wrote:
Stoopid decision in dropping Head, the selectors should have just stuck with the same team instead of bringing in Marsh


Best bowling figures. :wink:

Thought mad not to bat first, and drop Starc for Siddle.

Almost like we are playing the junior style where give everyone a game.



His batting has been below average, he needs to make some runs.


OK, now it's too obvious.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:24 pm 
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https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/09/15/england-have-no-moral-high-ground-over-ball-tampering/?fbclid=IwAR1CplEMKP6ulA1lR5vsK6oCkxnYxusPftw1mM0SoAbfv_DQaRDDrrobn3c

best article written.....


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:52 pm 
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Hey, Greasy, I bet you believe everything you read in your copy of Womens Weekly too. Haven't you figured it out yet, that people who write books & newspaper articles always add in some spicy titbits.....it sells copies. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:03 pm 
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B.Toomer wrote:
Hey, Greasy, I bet you believe everything you read in your copy of Womens Weekly too. Haven't you figured it out yet, that people who write books & newspaper articles always add in some spicy titbits.....it sells copies. :lol:


So those who admitted ball tampering lied? Why on earth would they do that?

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:18 pm 
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Did anyone who "admitted " ball tampering, written a book or newspaper article?


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:43 am 
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Great series comes to an end. 18 years and counting.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:39 am 
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B.Toomer wrote:
Hey, Greasy, I bet you believe everything you read in your copy of Womens Weekly too. Haven't you figured it out yet, that people who write books & newspaper articles always add in some spicy titbits.....it sells copies. :lol:


You are a 12yo, or least have the mentality of one. Greasy?????

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:59 am 
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Great series comes to an end. 18 years and counting.



you guys have made celebrating failure an art form.....isn't the objective to be in possession of the Urn????


don't worry about Bummer....his fall back modus operandi is racism... :oops: :oops: :clown: :clown:


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:43 am 
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Win home, draw away. I'll take that for as long as it accepted by the poms. :lol:

In a way, there is a positive to us losing the last test - there were many problems exposed in this series, so hopefully they are addressed before too long.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:25 am 
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Great series comes to an end. 18 years and counting.



you guys have made celebrating failure an art form.....isn't the objective to be in possession of the Urn????


don't worry about Bummer....his fall back modus operandi is racism... :oops: :oops: :clown: :clown:


The objective is to win the series. Did you see the aussie celebrations this morning, literally celebrating failure.

We (Well the MCC) are always in posession of the urn so weird objective.

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Conclusions:
Drawn series, good enough - would have taken it at start of series
Paine good media speaker, but not really future captain (too many errors, eg DRS, sending opposition in, pressure when we lost by one wicket, batting form)
Selectors - lots of queries here - Head's omission, Starc dropped for Siddle last test, persistence with Warner.
Opening batsmen - failed, simple
Positives - Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins, maybe Hazlewood but that's about it
Umpiring - not very good
Root - cheat

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:46 am 
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The objective is to win the series



silly man......not if you are the holders of the Ashes....


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:10 pm 
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The objective is to win the series



silly man......not if you are the holders of the Ashes....


So you want to draw a series, not win it?

You don't care about the test rankings?
You don't care about the world cup standings?

Truly laughable, bit like aussie rules, celebrating mediocrity.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
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Truly laughable, bit like aussie rules, celebrating mediocrity.


ohhhh...you mean like glorifying semi final losses..... :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:30 pm 
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Truly laughable, bit like aussie rules, celebrating mediocrity.


ohhhh...you mean like glorifying semi final losses..... :lol:



I think most people were upset about losing the semi. Didn't see any celebrations.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:42 pm 
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Bomber wrote:
Conclusions:
Drawn series, good enough - would have taken it at start of series
Paine good media speaker, but not really future captain (too many errors, eg DRS, sending opposition in, pressure when we lost by one wicket, batting form)
Selectors - lots of queries here - Head's omission, Starc dropped for Siddle last test, persistence with Warner.
Opening batsmen - failed, simple
Positives - Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins, maybe Hazlewood but that's about it
Umpiring - not very good
Root - cheat


Pretty accurate run down of the series.


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:26 pm 
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I would add catching woes to that list....


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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:55 pm 
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Bomber wrote:
Conclusions:
Drawn series, good enough - would have taken it at start of series
Paine good media speaker, but not really future captain (too many errors, eg DRS, sending opposition in, pressure when we lost by one wicket, batting form)
Selectors - lots of queries here - Head's omission, Starc dropped for Siddle last test, persistence with Warner.
Opening batsmen - failed, simple
Positives - Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins, maybe Hazlewood but that's about it
Umpiring - not very good
Root - cheat


If you want to list everyone that has "cheated" in this series, could be a long list.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:34 am 
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
Conclusions:
Drawn series, good enough - would have taken it at start of series
Paine good media speaker, but not really future captain (too many errors, eg DRS, sending opposition in, pressure when we lost by one wicket, batting form)
Selectors - lots of queries here - Head's omission, Starc dropped for Siddle last test, persistence with Warner.
Opening batsmen - failed, simple
Positives - Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins, maybe Hazlewood but that's about it
Umpiring - not very good
Root - cheat


If you want to list everyone that has "cheated" in this series, could be a long list.


Can only think of Root. Maybe the odd umpire...…..

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:22 pm 
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Bomber wrote:
Conclusions:
Drawn series, good enough - would have taken it at start of series
Paine good media speaker, but not really future captain (too many errors, eg DRS, sending opposition in, pressure when we lost by one wicket, batting form)
Selectors - lots of queries here - Head's omission, Starc dropped for Siddle last test, persistence with Warner.
Opening batsmen - failed, simple
Positives - Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins, maybe Hazlewood but that's about it
Umpiring - not very good
Root - cheat


If you want to list everyone that has "cheated" in this series, could be a long list.


Can only think of Root. Maybe the odd umpire...…..



You can do better than that. Umpires were bad for both teams so would have been a weird way to cheat.

Khawaja and Warner were both caught and stood their ground.

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 Post subject: Re: Ashes 2019
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:28 pm 
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Thinnest of edges (given out anyway) as opposed to claiming a catch that was a half-volley (given out, when it wasn't). Justice served re Warner and Usman, not with Root. There's your difference.

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Thinnest of edges (given out anyway) as opposed to claiming a catch that was a half-volley (given out, when it wasn't). Justice served re Warner and Usman, not with Root. There's your difference.


Root caught it. Only way he didn't was if he had deformed fingers or he had previously dug a hole in the ground to put them in.

Both (if for some strange reason you think Root cheated) then both were attempts to deceive the umpires. Aussies were quick to abuse Broad for not walking, why the hypocrisy?

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