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I don't have ashes tickets, but hoping I'll get a corporate box for day 3 or 4... IF IT GOES AHEAD!! FFS, sort it out. Stubbornness at its best. :x
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Sounds like the ossies are scared.

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Bomber wrote:I don't have ashes tickets, but hoping I'll get a corporate box for day 3 or 4... IF IT GOES AHEAD!! FFS, sort it out. Stubbornness at its best. :x

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If it's not resolved in five days call it a draw.
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The ashes will be on, they’re just stalling till August so they don’t have to tour Bangladesh

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Why would the Ashes not happen? Surely they can find 11 aussies to play a game. If not, they have to forfeit. Would be a sad way to retain them.
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God is an Englishman wrote:Why would the Ashes not happen? Surely they can find 11 aussies to play a game. If not, they have to forfeit. Would be a sad way to retain them.
I'll play but not for nothing. :wink:
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Why would the Ashes not happen? Surely they can find 11 aussies to play a game. If not, they have to forfeit. Would be a sad way to retain them.
I'll play but not for nothing. :wink:
Probably make more runs than the Marsh brothers.
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What concerns me with this is that they might get some of the old guard out of retirement. A team with McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Bomber in it would be a scarier proposition than the current convict side.
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God is an Englishman wrote:What concerns me with this is that they might get some of the old guard out of retirement. A team with McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Bomber in it would be a scarier proposition than the current convict side.

This may have to be re-used when the poms get flogged here!
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Wayne Kerr wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:What concerns me with this is that they might get some of the old guard out of retirement. A team with McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Bomber in it would be a scarier proposition than the current convict side.

This may have to be re-used when the poms get flogged here!

And if it does happen I will merely tell you to look at the wording of what I said.
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England getting "flogged" here ? Like the last time!!

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B.Toomer wrote:England getting "flogged" here ? Like the last time!!
We did get flogged here the last time
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Time for some righteous indignation

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Stitch This wrote:Starting to get serious?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/a ... se/8683918
Not really. The A tour and the Bangladesh tour are mere pawns in the game to try and show they're serious. This will not get to a serious level until it truly threatens the Ashes series.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Stitch This wrote:Starting to get serious?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/a ... se/8683918
Not really. The A tour and the Bangladesh tour are mere pawns in the game to try and show they're serious. This will not get to a serious level until it truly threatens the Ashes series.
Bottom line there's a lot of pig-headed attitudes coming from both sides. How much longer till someone decides, ok, lets sit down and work out a compromise? Big egos never like to clash heads and lose.
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Stitch This wrote:Starting to get serious?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-06/a ... se/8683918
Not really. The A tour and the Bangladesh tour are mere pawns in the game to try and show they're serious. This will not get to a serious level until it truly threatens the Ashes series.
Bottom line there's a lot of pig-headed attitudes coming from both sides. How much longer till someone decides, ok, lets sit down and work out a compromise? Big egos never like to clash heads and lose.

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The media are saying that this is the first tour called off by Australia. Bangladesh and Pakistan don't exist anymore apparently.

Why didn't they just send a team of players who wanted to go?
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God is an Englishman wrote:The media are saying that this is the first tour called off by Australia. Bangladesh and Pakistan don't exist anymore apparently.

Why didn't they just send a team of players who wanted to go?
Wouldn't that have upset what negotiations are happening if some player go off to play and ignore the situation?

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Cooper wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The media are saying that this is the first tour called off by Australia. Bangladesh and Pakistan don't exist anymore apparently.

Why didn't they just send a team of players who wanted to go?
Wouldn't that have upset what negotiations are happening if some player go off to play and ignore the situation?
it would also have shown the players that the board aren't going to accept their crap and won't give in to blackmail.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Cooper wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The media are saying that this is the first tour called off by Australia. Bangladesh and Pakistan don't exist anymore apparently.

Why didn't they just send a team of players who wanted to go?
Wouldn't that have upset what negotiations are happening if some player go off to play and ignore the situation?
it would also have shown the players that the board aren't going to accept their crap and won't give in to blackmail.
This is true.

It seems from the outside to be a complicated issue and both sides are being greedy. From what ive read about it I'm more on the players side and a firm believer of if it aint broke don't fix it.

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Cooper wrote:This is true.

It seems from the outside to be a complicated issue and both sides are being greedy. From what ive read about it I'm more on the players side and a firm believer of if it aint broke don't fix it.
My understanding is that the players were offered a pay rise but they turned it down and what the same base salary but a larger slice of the pie.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Cooper wrote:This is true.

It seems from the outside to be a complicated issue and both sides are being greedy. From what ive read about it I'm more on the players side and a firm believer of if it aint broke don't fix it.
My understanding is that the players were offered a pay rise but they turned it down and what the same base salary but a larger slice of the pie.

And so they should get a bigger slice of the pie, without the players, their isn't a game!
The AFL had to bend over and listen to the demands of the AFLPA, Cricket Australia will eventually do the same
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Wayne Kerr wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Cooper wrote:This is true.

It seems from the outside to be a complicated issue and both sides are being greedy. From what ive read about it I'm more on the players side and a firm believer of if it aint broke don't fix it.
My understanding is that the players were offered a pay rise but they turned it down and what the same base salary but a larger slice of the pie.

And so they should get a bigger slice of the pie, without the players, their isn't a game!
The AFL had to bend over and listen to the demands of the AFLPA, Cricket Australia will eventually do the same
Or maybe they don't and they make them go out and get real jobs and see how long they come back begging to play for their country again.
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Not sure why shield players should be seeking big bucks. They draw no crowd, its not a full time job (unless they get into IPL, County Cricket etc) so why they need big bucks is a bit puzzling. If you're any good, you'll get picked for Australia and wage will go up naturally like in most businesses when you rise the corporate ladder.
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Cooper wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The media are saying that this is the first tour called off by Australia. Bangladesh and Pakistan don't exist anymore apparently.

Why didn't they just send a team of players who wanted to go?
Wouldn't that have upset what negotiations are happening if some player go off to play and ignore the situation?
There was no CA would send a squad of rebel players that would make it worse, and in addition no current cricket players would go.

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ozzie owl wrote:
Cooper wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The media are saying that this is the first tour called off by Australia. Bangladesh and Pakistan don't exist anymore apparently.

Why didn't they just send a team of players who wanted to go?
Wouldn't that have upset what negotiations are happening if some player go off to play and ignore the situation?
There was no CA would send a squad of rebel players that would make it worse, and in addition no current cricket players would go.
Crap, all of my teammates have said they would go.
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They've reached an agreement today apparently.

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Losing to Bangladesh won't exactly fix the 'crisis' either.

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