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Mr Red wrote:So your saying I'm Australian if I was able to get Aust passport when I was born - would this occur if my parents had gained Australian citizenship prior to me being born?
I'm saying you would be entitled to play for Australia if you were entitled to a passport at birth. If your parents were citizens or permanent residents before you were born then you would have been entitled to it.
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Bomber wrote:So, your ex is Australian through blood and passport entitlement?
I don't know fully know her blood line, with her surname she would be English I imagine. However, at birth, she was only entitled to an Australian passport as were her parents and grand parent. So she's Australian.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Mr Red wrote:So your saying I'm Australian if I was able to get Aust passport when I was born - would this occur if my parents had gained Australian citizenship prior to me being born?
I'm saying you would be entitled to play for Australia if you were entitled to a passport at birth. If your parents were citizens or permanent residents before you were born then you would have been entitled to it.
They would have been permanent residents so I would automatically become an Australian citizen, luck me hey - I might have been an English back packer all this time. :D

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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:So, your ex is Australian through blood and passport entitlement?
I don't know fully know her blood line, with her surname she would be English I imagine. However, at birth, she was only entitled to an Australian passport as were her parents and grand parent. So she's Australian.
So bloodline is irrelevent
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:So, your ex is Australian through blood and passport entitlement?
I don't know fully know her blood line, with her surname she would be English I imagine. However, at birth, she was only entitled to an Australian passport as were her parents and grand parent. So she's Australian.
So bloodline is irrelevent
Bloodline is completely relevant, you get your nationality from your parents
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Splendid, so if two "Chinese" people from different families (ie each their parents were Chinese) are born in Australia, grow up, marry and have kids, then their kids are Australian in bloodline as their parents were born here. Sound right? Or is there a rule you can only go back so many generations?
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Bomber wrote:Splendid, so if two "Chinese" people from different families (ie each their parents were Chinese) are born in Australia, grow up, marry and have kids, then their kids are Australian in bloodline as their parents were born here. Sound right? Or is there a rule you can only go back so many generations?
Britain for example has a "grandparentage" rule.

Those kids would be entitled to a Chinese passport at birth (if their system is the same) so they'd be Chinese but presuming their parents were entitled to the passports at birth then it would be pretty hard to deny that they're also australian.
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We are young and free. Best to be considered Australian wherever one can I suppose, especially if you can add some European "heritage" to it. :D
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God is an Englishman wrote:free :lol:
I can see why you'd be happy about it, rapturous laughter might be a bit over the top though.
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:free :lol:
I can see why you'd be happy about it, rapturous laughter might be a bit over the top though.
Oh stop, it's too much :lol:
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Mr Red wrote:Both my parents are English and I was born in Australia - I don't class myself as English - I class myself as Australian with English heritage.
Class yourself however you want, you would also be English at birth and entitled to a British passport and perfectly entitled to represent England in any sport. My son was born in Australia to an English father, he has a British passport and nothing I would like more than to see him wearing the 3 Lions.
By the definition below my Nationality is Australian seeing I was born in Australia.

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refer below - I could have got a British passport if I registered as British overseas citizen after I turned 3 which I didnt. So I assume your son at birth wouldnt have been British. He would become a British citizen when he was registered( >3 Years old) and the he would be able to apply for a British passport then but not when he was born.

So I assume your son has now got dual nationality British and Australian.



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My son had a British passport from about 4 weeks old. We went back to England when he was 2 months old and he entered England on his British passport.

You also could have got that passport at the same age. The regulations you have below are for British Overseas Citizens, I am a British citizen, not a British Overseas Citizen.
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So did he have to register to be a British Citizen first as part of the process so he could get a British passport?

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Mr Red wrote:So did he have to register to be a British Citizen first as part of the process so he could get a British passport?
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Will australia have 3 foreigners in their side on boxing day?
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God is an Englishman wrote:Will australia have 3 foreigners in their side on boxing day?
I doubt they'll beat your record. awaits when did this happen comeback
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God is an Englishman wrote:Will australia have 3 foreigners in their side on boxing day?
I doubt they'll beat your record. awaits when did this happen comeback
When did this happen?
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That article refers to Darren Pattinson as a "foreigner" :shock: and Rankin as an Irishman.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Will australia have 3 foreigners in their side on boxing day?
I doubt they'll beat your record. awaits when did this happen comeback
When did this happen?

Hook, line and sinker.....
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We got Ova' Here?? #ACCUPAHATERS!




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Wayne Kerr wrote:Hook, line and sinker.....
:lol:
OH DEAR!
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Wayne Kerr wrote:Hook, line and sinker.....
:lol:
OH DEAR!

I know, old age has really caught up with you
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Wayne Kerr wrote:Hook, line and sinker.....
:lol:
OH DEAR!

I know, old age has really caught up with you
We got Ova' Here?? #ACCUPAHATERS!




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Wayne Kerr wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Wayne Kerr wrote:Hook, line and sinker.....
:lol:
OH DEAR!

I know, old age has really caught up with you
It has, but the fact you think anyone was caught shows it must have got you prematurely.
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Simple things amuse simple minds.

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Daijayama Matsuri wrote:Simple things amuse simple minds.
In which case, for Grosso's benefit, the cat sat on the mat
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4 of today's 11 were born overseas. Surely that's not allowed judging by Australia's recent complaints against other nations (but only when they have been beaten by those other nations.... :lol: )

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Old Redback wrote:4 of today's 11 were born overseas. Surely that's not allowed judging by Australia's recent complaints against other nations (but only when they have been beaten by those other nations.... :lol: )
Who is the 4th? Khawaja, Renshaw, Cartwright and... ?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Old Redback wrote:4 of today's 11 were born overseas. Surely that's not allowed judging by Australia's recent complaints against other nations (but only when they have been beaten by those other nations.... :lol: )
Who is the 4th? Khawaja, Renshaw, Cartwright and... ?
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