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God is an Englishman wrote:At several points in the game there wasn't any Australians on the field of play. At a few points there was more Englishman on the pitch than Australians.

You claiming the saffers as Englishmen now?
Strauss, Pietersen, Prior and Trott not enough?
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God is an Englishman wrote:At several points in the game there wasn't any Australians on the field of play. At a few points there was more Englishman on the pitch than Australians.

You claiming the saffers as Englishmen now?
Strauss, Pietersen, Prior and Trott not enough?
All of those names English at birth.

Not hard to have had more Englishman than Australians though, seeing as there was 2 Englishman on the pitch at times and you opened the batting (in the first innings) without an Australian.
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Andrew Strauss
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Mr Red wrote:Andrew Strauss
Born: March 2, 1977 (age 39), Johannesburg, South Africa
Both his parents were English - that makes him English. NEXT!
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Both my parents are English and I was born in Australia - I don't class myself as English - I class myself as Australian with English heritage.

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Mr Red wrote:Both my parents are English and I was born in Australia - I don't class myself as English - I class myself as Australian with English heritage.
Class yourself however you want, you would also be English at birth and entitled to a British passport and perfectly entitled to represent England in any sport. My son was born in Australia to an English father, he has a British passport and nothing I would like more than to see him wearing the 3 Lions.
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It has never crossed my mind to get a British passport or ever aspire to play for any English sporting team. I suppose my parents love for the country they adopted all them years ago never lead me to think that I was anything else but Australian.

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Mr Red wrote:It has never crossed my mind to get a British passport or ever aspire to play for any English sporting team. I suppose my parents love for the country they adopted all them years ago never lead me to think that I was anything else but Australian.
Always raised mine to understand they were half English and half Australian, due to their parentage. Both had both passports from 1 month old.
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Mr Red wrote:It has never crossed my mind to get a British passport or ever aspire to play for any English sporting team. I suppose my parents love for the country they adopted all them years ago never lead me to think that I was anything else but Australian.
Always raised mine to understand they were half English and half Australian, due to their parentage. Both had both passports from 1 month old.
So your ex (mum of kids) was Indigenous? How far does one need to go back to be "Australian"? One generation, two...??
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Mr Red wrote:It has never crossed my mind to get a British passport or ever aspire to play for any English sporting team. I suppose my parents love for the country they adopted all them years ago never lead me to think that I was anything else but Australian.
Always raised mine to understand they were half English and half Australian, due to their parentage. Both had both passports from 1 month old.
So your ex (mum of kids) was Indigenous? How far does one need to go back to be "Australian"? One generation, two...??
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Always raised mine to understand they were half English and half Australian, due to their parentage. Both had both passports from 1 month old.
So your ex (mum of kids) was Indigenous? How far does one need to go back to be "Australian"? One generation, two...??
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.

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God is an Englishman wrote:[

So your ex (mum of kids) was Indigenous? How far does one need to go back to be "Australian"? One generation, two...??
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.[/quote]

What if your ex was born in Thailand - would your children be Aust 1/3 English 1/3 and Thai 1/3.

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Indigenous just means born of the local area.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.
So its all about paperwork, not "blood lines". Thanks
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God is an Englishman wrote:[

So your ex (mum of kids) was Indigenous? How far does one need to go back to be "Australian"? One generation, two...??
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.
What if your ex was born in Thailand - would your children be Aust 1/3 English 1/3 and Thai 1/3.[/quote]

No, because they can only get half from one person. So they'd always be 1/2 English.
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.
So its all about paperwork, not "blood lines". Thanks
The paperwork comes about because of the blood lines.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.
So its all about paperwork, not "blood lines". Thanks
The paperwork comes about because of the blood lines.
So in your mind I would be English and not Australian

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So in your mind I would be English and not Australian
You are English but you would be entitled to represent Australia, assuming you were entitled to an Australian passport at birth.
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Steve#4 wrote:A young country, it always happens so get over it.

Take the age of Australia v England and rate foreign players that represent per
Time they have been , that is a fairer argument.
Either I am losing it or someone has got my password as I am pretty sure I didn't post that last week?
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I have used that argument though in the past I will admit.

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God is an Englishman wrote:
Mr Red wrote:
So in your mind I would be English and not Australian
You are English but you would be entitled to represent Australia, assuming you were entitled to an Australian passport at birth.
umm well there you go, I would never have thought that :?

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Mr Red wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Mr Red wrote:
So in your mind I would be English and not Australian
You are English but you would be entitled to represent Australia, assuming you were entitled to an Australian passport at birth.
umm well there you go, I would never have thought that :?
Were you entitled to an Australia passport at birth?
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[quote="God is an Englishman

umm well there you go, I would never have thought that :?[/quote]

Were you entitled to an Australia passport at birth?[/quote]

I don't know.

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I don't know.[/quote]

So you may not even be Australian. I can lend you a St George's Cross if you like.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
My ex was entitled to an Australia passport at birth, so she's Australian.
So its all about paperwork, not "blood lines". Thanks
The paperwork comes about because of the blood lines.
EG - A person with Chinese parents was born here - therefore entitled to an Aussie passport. Blood lines are clearly otherwise. This person is Australian, yes?
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Being born here doesn't automatically qualify you for an Australian passport.
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Bomber wrote:EG - A person with Chinese parents was born here - therefore entitled to an Aussie passport. Blood lines are clearly otherwise. This person is Australian, yes?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:EG - A person with Chinese parents was born here - therefore entitled to an Aussie passport. Blood lines are clearly otherwise. This person is Australian, yes?
See response above to Mr Red
Lets assume the Chinese parents were entitled to be here, be it work visas, permanent residency clearances etc.
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Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:EG - A person with Chinese parents was born here - therefore entitled to an Aussie passport. Blood lines are clearly otherwise. This person is Australian, yes?
See response above to Mr Red
Lets assume the Chinese parents were entitled to be here, be it work visas, permanent residency clearances etc.
I refer you to my previous answer which discusses someone with a similar set of circumstances.
You are English but you would be entitled to represent Australia, assuming you were entitled to an Australian passport at birth.
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So, your ex is Australian through blood and passport entitlement?
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God is an Englishman wrote:[quote="Mr Red']
I don't know.
So you may not even be Australian. I can lend you a St George's Cross if you like.[/quote][/quote][/quote]


So your saying I'm Australian if I was able to get Aust passport when I was born - would this occur if my parents had gained Australian citizenship prior to me being born?

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