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Author:  B.Toomer [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:07 am ]
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Perhaps the " leadership team " should have chosen someone of greater sleight of hand than the brainless Bancroft to carry out the crime.

Author:  MegaBonus [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:28 pm ]
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Smith, Warner & Lehman will need to relinquish leadership positions.....nothing less will appease the need to start on the road of moral redemption

Author:  Sunny Vanilla [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:31 pm ]
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Listening to Adam Gilchrist today...." At least they came out straight away and admitted it." :lol:

Author:  Jørgen Inge Mykland [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:48 pm ]
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Sunny Vanilla wrote:
Listening to Adam Gilchrist today...." At least they came out straight away and admitted it." :lol:

Wow.

Author:  ozzie owl [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:51 pm ]
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Bomber wrote:
Nothing to defend. Anyone involved should be stood down immediately. Inexcusable. Although its not like the poms were squeaky clean when it comes to fiddling with the ball, so remember those glasshouses.


I agree Bomber, that Smith and others involved should be stood down. I noticed how Toomer forgets Atherton didn't stand down when he was caught been naughty with dirt in his pocket?

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:41 pm ]
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ozzie owl wrote:
Bomber wrote:
Nothing to defend. Anyone involved should be stood down immediately. Inexcusable. Although its not like the poms were squeaky clean when it comes to fiddling with the ball, so remember those glasshouses.


I agree Bomber, that Smith and others involved should be stood down. I noticed how Toomer forgets Atherton didn't stand down when he was caught been naughty with dirt in his pocket?



Comparing a pre meditated attempt by many players to cheat and then deceive to a bloke putting dirt on the ball 20 years ago.

Author:  MegaBonus [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:43 pm ]
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don't be so pathetic by trying to gain the moral high ground...cheating is cheating....as I've already stated, he needs to go, so does Warner and Lehman

Author:  B.Toomer [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:44 pm ]
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Either you didn't study English at school or it's 80 years since you did & you've forgotten it.

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:45 pm ]
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Ozzie owl quick to try and deflect something back to anti England.

This is the worst case of ball tampering ever.

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:47 pm ]
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Have cricket australia just bottled it by only standing down smith and warner for this test. Nothing for lehman?

Author:  MegaBonus [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:55 pm ]
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lehman hasn't admitted anything yet.....but eventually, the big broom will sweep him out....

still in shock....not that they did it (I'm reasonably sure that most countries have at some stage) but the sheer arrogance of believing the 30 odd cameras wont catch you out...

Author:  Sunny Vanilla [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:09 pm ]
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MegaBonus wrote:
lehman hasn't admitted anything yet.....but eventually, the big broom will sweep him out....

still in shock....not that they did it (I'm reasonably sure that most countries have at some stage) but the sheer arrogance of believing the 30 odd cameras wont catch you out...


This is what gets me, people being in shock.

Aussies love to point the finger, whether it be Olympic cheats, cricket cheats or any other sporting cheats. They have that holier than though attitude. But why are Aussies any different to the rest of humanity? What, we are some super human breed immune to corruption? The only difference is that Aussies generally have a smugness about cheating because they rarely get caught.

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:41 pm ]
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MegaBonus wrote:
lehman hasn't admitted anything yet.....but eventually, the big broom will sweep him out....

still in shock....not that they did it (I'm reasonably sure that most countries have at some stage) but the sheer arrogance of believing the 30 odd cameras wont catch you out...



It has to, they mentioned the "leadership group", that's Lehman.

If it was a discussion then it must have involved a lot of people. Captain, Vice Captain, Bancroft, Coach, Bowling Coach, Keeper, Bowlers...

Sussex CCC must be concerned they're about to lose their coach.

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:43 pm ]
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From everyone who has to have been involved, it only really leaves Khawaja. So the only non cheat isn't australian.

Author:  Brian the Postman [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:15 pm ]
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Have cricket australia just bottled it by only standing down smith and warner for this test. Nothing for lehman?


I bet you beat off when this news broke.

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:21 pm ]
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Brian the Postman wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Have cricket australia just bottled it by only standing down smith and warner for this test. Nothing for lehman?


I bet you beat off when this news broke.


Well I have been saying it's been happening for a whil e but no, I was disappointed to see it being so blatant.

Author:  ozzie owl [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:23 pm ]
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Smith suspended by ICC for one match.

Author:  Nikos Sampson [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:05 am ]
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He and bancroft should have been expelled from the series, the latter for life.

Author:  Nikos Sampson [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:06 am ]
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He and bancroft should have been expelled from the series, the latter for life.

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:05 am ]
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Fox Sports even now waking up. Just showed Sugargate and said this raises doubts on the Ashes as well.

Author:  N5 1BH [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:42 am ]
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Stuart Broad obviously couldn’t resist a dig

Quote:
"Look at the Ashes series we've just played, look through all of those Test matches and they reverse swing the ball sometimes in conditions you wouldn't expect the ball to reverse," said Broad.

"I don't understand why they've changed their method for this one game."


Does make you think though, in addition to pockets full of sugar how long has the weasel warner been wearing that elaborate plaster on his hand and is it purely coincidence they used the yellow tape after his hand was complained about.

Author:  Brian the Postman [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:42 am ]
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Brian the Postman wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Have cricket australia just bottled it by only standing down smith and warner for this test. Nothing for lehman?


I bet you beat off when this news broke.


Well I have been saying it's been happening for a whil e but no, I was disappointed to see it being so blatant.


It definitely has no place in Australian sport and the culprits need to face severe sanctions for their conduct.

Author:  Wayne Kerr [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:03 am ]
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Bomber wrote:
Nothing to defend. Anyone involved should be stood down immediately. Inexcusable. Although its not like the poms were squeaky clean when it comes to fiddling with the ball, so remember those glasshouses.



Correct, Smith and Warner should be punished severely. I feel for Bamcroft, as he was just following orders...
He still could of said no!

T.Head should be the new Aussie captain.
Khawaja needs to be dropped for next match

Author:  bloodypassit [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:10 am ]
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you know its bad when Tomic and Kyrgios are more respected and more integrity than Smith and Warner at the moment

Author:  N5 1BH [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:14 am ]
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Sunny Vanilla wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:
lehman hasn't admitted anything yet.....but eventually, the big broom will sweep him out....

still in shock....not that they did it (I'm reasonably sure that most countries have at some stage) but the sheer arrogance of believing the 30 odd cameras wont catch you out...


This is what gets me, people being in shock.

Aussies love to point the finger, whether it be Olympic cheats, cricket cheats or any other sporting cheats. They have that holier than though attitude. But why are Aussies any different to the rest of humanity? What, we are some super human breed immune to corruption? The only difference is that Aussies generally have a smugness about cheating because they rarely get caught.


Australians get caught, they just grass up every one in sight to deflect blame

Author:  God is an Englishman [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:21 am ]
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N5 1BH wrote:
Sunny Vanilla wrote:
MegaBonus wrote:
lehman hasn't admitted anything yet.....but eventually, the big broom will sweep him out....

still in shock....not that they did it (I'm reasonably sure that most countries have at some stage) but the sheer arrogance of believing the 30 odd cameras wont catch you out...


This is what gets me, people being in shock.

Aussies love to point the finger, whether it be Olympic cheats, cricket cheats or any other sporting cheats. They have that holier than though attitude. But why are Aussies any different to the rest of humanity? What, we are some super human breed immune to corruption? The only difference is that Aussies generally have a smugness about cheating because they rarely get caught.


Australians get caught, they just grass up every one in sight to deflect blame


So much for the criminal code.

Author:  PDog [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:55 am ]
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Embarassing, humiliating... makes me ashamed as an Australian.

As it stands, i want nothing further to do with this "team" until the people responsible are shown the exit door, and not just given a slap on the wrist by the ICC. CA better man up and do something extreme as a result of their "investigation". FFS, what is left to investigate?

Author:  Bomber [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:57 am ]
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Cant believe the soft penalties. We know the ICC are soft, so CA need to come out and make a clear statement.

Anyone proved to be involved (and we already know who some of them are) should really be stood down for a minimum of one year.

I for one found it difficult to watch them last night and only really watched the coverage to hear what all the commentators would say about it.

Others have been guilty of ball tampering (until this match, the old bottle tops used by Pakistan have been the worst), so one can only throw so much mud, but the stupidity of it all in even hatching such a plan speaks volumes.

Author:  MegaBonus [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:00 am ]
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Quote:
FFS, what is left to investigate?


Handscomb liking of sugar....

Author:  Wayne Kerr [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:32 am ]
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Bomber wrote:
Cant believe the soft penalties. We know the ICC are soft, so CA need to come out and make a clear statement.

Anyone proved to be involved (and we already know who some of them are) should really be stood down for a minimum of one year.

I for one found it difficult to watch them last night and only really watched the coverage to hear what all the commentators would say about it.

Others have been guilty of ball tampering (until this match, the old bottle tops used by Pakistan have been the worst), so one can only throw so much mud, but the stupidity of it all in even hatching such a plan speaks volumes.



The ICC is more corrupt than FIFA.
CA should come down hard on the culprits, but probably won;t do anything more than strip them of their captaincy and VC (Smith and Warner)
Smith is still a great batsmen, and should be in the side, but Warner can have a rest for at least 6-12 months.

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