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Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:14 am
by Bomber
B.Toomer wrote:Good Heavens, NO, how could you suggest such a thing?
Yes, especially when the poms were one of the first busted for such a thing. Best to learn from the best (at it).

Anyway, this one was done by a Victorian (eastern monkey) so throw as much mud as you want. :P

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:16 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
B.Toomer wrote:Good Heavens, NO, how could you suggest such a thing?
Yes, especially when the poms were one of the first busted for such a thing. Best to learn from the best (at it).

Anyway, this one was done by a Victorian (eastern monkey) so throw as much mud as you want. :P
Is he australian?

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:18 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
B.Toomer wrote:Good Heavens, NO, how could you suggest such a thing?
Yes, especially when the poms were one of the first busted for such a thing. Best to learn from the best (at it).

Anyway, this one was done by a Victorian (eastern monkey) so throw as much mud as you want. :P
Is he australian?
Yes, an eastern monkey one

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:20 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:Yes
So in the last fortnight alone we've had australians pitch doctoring and australians ball tampering.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:29 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Yes
So in the last fortnight alone we've had australians pitch doctoring and australians ball tampering.
:lol:

One out of two aint bad, but hey, neither EVER happens in england hey.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:34 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Yes
So in the last fortnight alone we've had australians pitch doctoring and australians ball tampering.
:lol:

One out of two aint bad, but hey, neither EVER happens in england hey.
Didn't say it didn't happen but some seem think the Aussies are all innocent.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:54 pm
by Bomber
Well we know you've been dedicated the town crier job and of "Aussies have done something we've done" police as you seem to bring every little thing up and have a whinge about it.
Amazed the boxing champ failing a drug test hasn't been put up in headlights yet. Off your game a bit?

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:58 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:Well we know you've been dedicated the town crier job and of "Aussies have done something we've done" police as you seem to bring every little thing up and have a whinge about it.
Amazed the boxing champ failing a drug test hasn't been put up in headlights yet. Off your game a bit?
:lol:

Hadn't seen that, how funny.

Back to zero Aussie world heavyweight champions again. I'm actually disappointed to hear that, was looking like he'd be fighting Haye pretty soon.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:01 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Well we know you've been dedicated the town crier job and of "Aussies have done something we've done" police as you seem to bring every little thing up and have a whinge about it.
Amazed the boxing champ failing a drug test hasn't been put up in headlights yet. Off your game a bit?
:lol:

Hadn't seen that, how funny.

Back to zero Aussie world heavyweight champions again. I'm actually disappointed to hear that, was looking like he'd be fighting Haye pretty soon.
B sample yet untested, but I wouldn't hold my breath. At least if its tested positive, then fair game, unlike Essendon players.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:04 pm
by God is an Englishman
he's denying it, at least the Essendon player and Sharapova had the decency to admit it.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:15 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:he's denying it, at least the Essendon player and Sharapova had the decency to admit it.
To be fair, he doesn't look the sharpest tool in the shed and is unlikely to know what he had for breakfast this morning. That said, I wouldn't say it to him directly. :wink:

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:55 pm
by Scholes
Obviously an assie.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:48 pm
by Sawajiri Erika
B.Toomer wrote:Obviously an assie.
Someone has to pull their IQ down, just like you do for the English.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:59 am
by God Tongue
Are there lights at Glenelg and if so can they use them? Who makes the decision on bad light, umpires or the batsmen?

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:31 am
by God is an Englishman
God Tongue wrote:Are there lights at Glenelg and if so can they use them? Who makes the decision on bad light, umpires or the batsmen?
The umpire makes the decision. I assume shield cricket follows the same competition rules as test match where this decision is the umpires alone now.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:07 pm
by Sawajiri Erika
Didn't they use to offer it to the batsmen? I guess South Australia will be praying for bad light.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:30 pm
by God is an Englishman
Sawajiri Erika wrote:Didn't they use to offer it to the batsmen? I guess South Australia will be praying for bad light.
Yes, used to offer it, Don't anymore.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:13 pm
by Stitch This
Sawajiri Erika wrote:Didn't they use to offer it to the batsmen? I guess South Australia will be praying for bad light.
All over red rover.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:21 pm
by Sawajiri Erika
Good to see the right team won.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:24 pm
by Delete Your Account
Sawajiri Erika wrote:Good to see the right team won.
They only made the final because of this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-08/n ... ce/6922264

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:27 pm
by Bomber
We could have doctored the pitch but didn't. Such is life

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:31 pm
by God is an Englishman
Slinky_Pete wrote:
Sawajiri Erika wrote:Good to see the right team won.
They only made the final because of this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-08/n ... ce/6922264
So both only made the final because of a dodgy pitch

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:44 pm
by Bomber
6 team comp - doesn't need a final - top team wins, simple (as it did up to 1982). That said, I hear they are looking at first past the post again as most finals in recent years have been almost farcical.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:48 pm
by Stitch This
The whole comp is almost a total waste of effort. No spectators and the final result hardly getting a mention anywhere in the News

Nobody likes it and nobody cares :shock:

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:19 pm
by Sawajiri Erika
Slinky_Pete wrote:
Sawajiri Erika wrote:Good to see the right team won.
They only made the final because of this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-08/n ... ce/6922264
Both of those had a better WDL ratio than South Australia.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:49 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:6 team comp - doesn't need a final - top team wins, simple (as it did up to 1982). That said, I hear they are looking at first past the post again as most finals in recent years have been almost farcical.
Finals in 4 days cricket are pretty strange. Especially when one team doesn't even have to go for the win.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:59 pm
by Delete Your Account
Sawajiri Erika wrote:
Slinky_Pete wrote:
Sawajiri Erika wrote:Good to see the right team won.
They only made the final because of this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-08/n ... ce/6922264
Both of those had a better WDL ratio than South Australia.
It's irrelevant to the discussion. The team on top is the one that earns the most points. SA earned more bonus points.

Under the previous system (where first innings points were awarded), all three teams would have ended on 5 Outright wins (30 points), 1 First innings win (1 point). It would've then come down to Run Rate, which I'm gathering SA would have led (based on the actual batting bonus points received this season)

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:02 pm
by God is an Englishman
Slinky_Pete wrote:It's irrelevant to the discussion. The team on top is the one that earns the most points. SA earned more bonus points.

Under the previous system (where first innings points were awarded), all three teams would have ended on 5 Outright wins (30 points), 1 First innings win (1 point). It would've then come down to Run Rate, which I'm gathering SA would have led (based on the actual batting bonus points received this season)
As Slinky has said, that's the system. It encourages you to take wickets and score runs. It's an attempt at an equaliser when games can be weather affected or a non Win/Loss result for various reason.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:07 pm
by Get In The Car
Slinky_Pete wrote:Under the previous system (where first innings points were awarded), all three teams would have ended on 5 Outright wins (30 points), 1 First innings win (1 point). It would've then come down to Run Rate, which I'm gathering SA would have led (based on the actual batting bonus points received this season)
Didn't first innings win be two points? Under that system Victoria would have had 30 points, New South Wales 26 points and South Australia 22 points. Bonus points is a load of bollocks.

Re: South Australia - pitch doctoring

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:34 am
by Delete Your Account
Get In The Car wrote:
Slinky_Pete wrote:Under the previous system (where first innings points were awarded), all three teams would have ended on 5 Outright wins (30 points), 1 First innings win (1 point). It would've then come down to Run Rate, which I'm gathering SA would have led (based on the actual batting bonus points received this season)
Didn't first innings win be two points? Under that system Victoria would have had 30 points, New South Wales 26 points and South Australia 22 points. Bonus points is a load of bollocks.
Whether it is 2 points or 1 point doesn't matter.

Dunno how you count any team on less than 30. All 3 teams had 5 wins in 2015/16.

Of the draws/losses incurred, all 3 teams only had 1 first innings win each. So 1 or 2 points.

In fact, I missed QLD, who hypthettically had 5 outrights, and 3 First innings wins. They would have been top.