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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:30 pm 
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You're right, all the kids that should of benefited from his so called "charity".


I expected errors in the English language from the colonials but not from you.

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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Quite right, delete "of" & insert "have".


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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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You're right, all the kids that should of benefited from his so called "charity".


Do you have a charity?

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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You're right, all the kids that should of benefited from his so called "charity".


Do you have a charity?


I don't but on the basis of this "charity", I'm thinking of setting one up.

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:56 am 
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So lets say you do.

You raise $1m (for example), but you travelled around the world over a period of 6 months to get it. Your costs are say, $400k over this period, so you get re-imbursed accordingly.
The charity still benefits the tune of $600k.
Good thing or bad thing?

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:17 pm 
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Bomber wrote:
So lets say you do.

You raise $1m (for example), but you travelled around the world over a period of 6 months to get it. Your costs are say, $400k over this period, so you get re-imbursed accordingly.
The charity still benefits the tune of $600k.
Good thing or bad thing?


You're forgetting the salary I would pay my friend to run it, I would pay a rent to my parents for the office space.....

That would leave $160k for the charity. Nice work if you can get it

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:25 pm 
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So lets say you do.

You raise $1m (for example), but you travelled around the world over a period of 6 months to get it. Your costs are say, $400k over this period, so you get re-imbursed accordingly.
The charity still benefits the tune of $600k.
Good thing or bad thing?


You're forgetting the salary I would pay my friend to run it, I would pay a rent to my parents for the office space.....

That would leave $160k for the charity. Nice work if you can get it


They still have $160k more than if your charity wasn't formed. Still see it as a win. Donors should know well enough by now how things work in the real world. If anything, its maybe more about disclosure. If its made clear that 100% of funds don't go direct to the charity, it merely should be highlighted as such.

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:27 pm 
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So lets say you do.

You raise $1m (for example), but you travelled around the world over a period of 6 months to get it. Your costs are say, $400k over this period, so you get re-imbursed accordingly.
The charity still benefits the tune of $600k.
Good thing or bad thing?


You're forgetting the salary I would pay my friend to run it, I would pay a rent to my parents for the office space.....

That would leave $160k for the charity. Nice work if you can get it


They still have $160k more than if your charity wasn't formed. Still see it as a win. Donors should know well enough by now how things work in the real world. If anything, its maybe more about disclosure. If its made clear that 100% of funds don't go direct to the charity, it merely should be highlighted as such.


As I said, I'm thinking of forming one. $160k goes where it should the rest goes in mine and my families pocket.

Trips to England paid for, all my expenses paid for. Don't worry, donate $5 and I'll claim the Friday lunches as well. Everyone's a winner

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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I'm in depending on the charity. Hopefully not for the under-privileged kids otherwise known as young Millwall supporters.

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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I'm in depending on the charity. Hopefully not for the under-privileged kids otherwise known as young Millwall supporters.


It will be set up as a foundation with money going to various different places. This will ensure its harder for people to realise how little money is being paid out and also that you have no real knowledge of where your money is going

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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I'm in depending on the charity. Hopefully not for the under-privileged kids otherwise known as young Millwall supporters.


It will be set up as a foundation with money going to various different places. This will ensure its harder for people to realise how little money is being paid out and also that you have no real knowledge of where your money is going


As long as it keeps you in the loop to be asked to come on to TV reality shows and get paid a squillion more, then I'm all for it. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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Bomber wrote:
So lets say you do.

You raise $1m (for example), but you travelled around the world over a period of 6 months to get it. Your costs are say, $400k over this period, so you get re-imbursed accordingly.
The charity still benefits the tune of $600k.
Good thing or bad thing?


Good luck finding a charity returning 60c the dollar to the charitable cause.


A scam. As GIAE said, great work if you can get it.


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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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Bomber wrote:
So lets say you do.

You raise $1m (for example), but you travelled around the world over a period of 6 months to get it. Your costs are say, $400k over this period, so you get re-imbursed accordingly.
The charity still benefits the tune of $600k.
Good thing or bad thing?


Good luck finding a charity returning 60c the dollar to the charitable cause.


A scam. As GIAE said, great work if you can get it.


Was just illustrating an example (of charity still gaining a benefit). As I said, I'm in!

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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The problem is, next time a charity comes calling, people will be reluctant to donate, knowing that only a small amount will find its way to the unfortunate. People like shyster Warne make it hard for genuine charities.


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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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B.Toomer wrote:
The problem is, next time a charity comes calling, people will be reluctant to donate, knowing that only a small amount will find its way to the unfortunate. People like shyster Warne make it hard for genuine charities.


I thought exactly that during the recent cricket raising for the McGrath Foundation.

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God is an Englishman wrote:
B.Toomer wrote:
The problem is, next time a charity comes calling, people will be reluctant to donate, knowing that only a small amount will find its way to the unfortunate. People like shyster Warne make it hard for genuine charities.


I thought exactly that during the recent cricket raising for the McGrath Foundation.


So you'd prefer nothing for certain charities as opposed to something. Fair enough. Let charities stand on their own feet from now on.

When I drop coins in a tin I don't ask about what percentage goes where but I'm also not naïve to think the poor sod standing there all day doesn't deserve a cut either.

Surely by now we know it aint no perfect world out there.

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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B.Toomer wrote:
The problem is, next time a charity comes calling, people will be reluctant to donate, knowing that only a small amount will find its way to the unfortunate. People like shyster Warne make it hard for genuine charities.


I thought exactly that during the recent cricket raising for the McGrath Foundation.


So you'd prefer nothing for certain charities as opposed to something. Fair enough. Let charities stand on their own feet from now on.

When I drop coins in a tin I don't ask about what percentage goes where but I'm also not naïve to think the poor sod standing there all day doesn't deserve a cut either.

Surely by now we know it aint no perfect world out there.


Would you still drop it in the tin if you knew only 16% was going to the charity?

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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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Bumber, you are simply condoning a proven cheat. We're not talking about "coins in a tin" here, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that warne has siphoned off to himself and his family. Your views on this is why this isn't a perfect world. But then, I wouldn't expect any less of your type.


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 Post subject: Re: Charity Cheat
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Bumber, you are simply condoning a proven cheat. We're not talking about "coins in a tin" here, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that warne has siphoned off to himself and his family. Your views on this is why this isn't a perfect world. But then, I wouldn't expect any less of your type.


The usual insults, which means you're still easy to stir up even when not trying. I'm not surprised when I chat to other poms about this forum they are embarrassed to have you on their "team".

First, in answer to Hawkesy, I couldn't care less that 16c in the dollar went to the charity. It's 16c per $, more than they would otherwise have.

And anyone who decides to donate large sums of money then whinges that majority doesn't get to its desired destination, well don't give in the first place.

If you're naïve not to know that not all funds go direct, then bad luck, its your choice to donate in the manner you have.

Nothing stopping giving direct to many causes either (eg breast cancer foundation). Your choice to give to same charity (in effect) as opposed to the McGrath foundation where only a percentage reaches same destination.

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First, in answer to Hawkesy, I couldn't care less that 16c in the dollar went to the charity. It's 16c per $, more than they would otherwise have.


In that case, I assume you have no problem paying for my lunch on the 19th then. It's OK, I'll give $3.20 to charity afterwards.

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First, in answer to Hawkesy, I couldn't care less that 16c in the dollar went to the charity. It's 16c per $, more than they would otherwise have.


In that case, I assume you have no problem paying for my lunch on the 19th then. It's OK, I'll give $3.20 to charity afterwards.


Since when are you are registered charity? I know you live in the east, which comes close on that alone, but remember I choose which charities to give to and those which I don't. Seems someone we both know did reasonably well out of some of my charity a few years ago. :wink:

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First, in answer to Hawkesy, I couldn't care less that 16c in the dollar went to the charity. It's 16c per $, more than they would otherwise have.


In that case, I assume you have no problem paying for my lunch on the 19th then. It's OK, I'll give $3.20 to charity afterwards.


Since when are you are registered charity? I know you live in the east, which comes close on that alone, but remember I choose which charities to give to and those which I don't. Seems someone we both know did reasonably well out of some of my charity a few years ago. :wink:


Who was that?

So, you will buy my lunch if I become a registered charity in return for me donating $3.20

Nice work if you can get it

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What's your charity? I'll want to see your registration

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What's your charity? I'll want to see your registration


I'll let you know as soon as it's set up.

The GIAE Foundation

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What's your charity? I'll want to see your registration


I'll let you know as soon as it's set up.

The GIAE Foundation


Who are beneficiaries of this charity and let me know what percentage goes to it directly please.

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What's your charity? I'll want to see your registration


I'll let you know as soon as it's set up.

The GIAE Foundation


Who are beneficiaries of this charity and let me know what percentage goes to it directly please.


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When I drop coins in a tin I don't ask about what percentage goes where but I'm also not naïve to think the poor sod standing there all day doesn't deserve a cut either.

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Those carrying tins that I place coins in usually make it clear which charity it is (visually) or is such a task beyond you?

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