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Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:48 pm
by Steve#4
Walabies did everything they could to hand it to the Scotts but somehow still won.

Need to get the scrum back, Foleys radar back and stupid mistakes gone. Very frustrating game to
Watch. Will be better for having Pocock back against the Poomas.

The only thing worse was going back to sleep for a couple of hours and waking up to watch what the joeys served up against the Krauts.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:43 am
by God is an Englishman
World Rugby have come out and confirmed that it should have been a scrum, not a penalty in the last minute v Scotland.

Another poor refereeing decision helping out Australia

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:35 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:World Rugby have come out and confirmed that it should have been a scrum, not a penalty in the last minute v Scotland.

Another poor refereeing decision helping out Australia
Who's to say we wouldn't have scored if it were a scrum? It was our put in.

We wont mention a few dodgy ones against Australia during the game - in which we didn't whinge and just got on with the game.

Having now watched the game in full, how the Scots were even close after all the gifts they were given, is amazing in itself.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:45 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:World Rugby have come out and confirmed that it should have been a scrum, not a penalty in the last minute v Scotland.

Another poor refereeing decision helping out Australia
Who's to say we wouldn't have scored if it were a scrum? It was our put in.

We wont mention a few dodgy ones against Australia during the game - in which we didn't whinge and just got on with the game.

Having now watched the game in full, how the Scots were even close after all the gifts they were given, is amazing in itself.
There was 2 game changing decisions in the game, both decisions wrong and both went in Australia's favour. Same when they played England as well.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:15 pm
by Bomber
Sounds like a whinge to me (yet again)

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:19 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:Sounds like a whinge to me (yet again)
this is what makes me laugh about you aussie, if someone points out where things are going wrong when you don't like the contect - it's a whinge.

Later on you will "whinge" but claim you're just stating a legitimate opinion.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:08 pm
by Steve#4
Winners are grinners, sport is about the rub of the green sometimes you get it and other times you dont. The Scotts were handed so many opportunities but couldnt win the game, they deserve to be on the bus home. Better side won snd are still in the cup.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:09 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Sounds like a whinge to me (yet again)
this is what makes me laugh about you aussie, if someone points out where things are going wrong when you don't like the contect - it's a whinge.

Later on you will "whinge" but claim you're just stating a legitimate opinion.
So when AU supporters (for example) "make note" of a refereeing decision that went against them, which you've referred to in the past as whingeing, any different?

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:24 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Sounds like a whinge to me (yet again)
this is what makes me laugh about you aussie, if someone points out where things are going wrong when you don't like the contect - it's a whinge.

Later on you will "whinge" but claim you're just stating a legitimate opinion.
So when AU supporters (for example) "make note" of a refereeing decision that went against them, which you've referred to in the past as whingeing, any different?
Was the incident in a knock out stage where the decision dramatically changed the game? Was the decision wrong? Was it in an important tournament like a World Cup?

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:48 pm
by Bomber
Case in point - Grand final, 2009, the early send off of AU's Cristiano against Victory just ten minutes in to the game. They lose 1-0 and red card revoked after match. Sound familiar?

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:27 pm
by Moritaka Chisato
It's not that important a tournament.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:59 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:Case in point - Grand final, 2009, the early send off of AU's Cristiano against Victory just ten minutes in to the game. They lose 1-0 and red card revoked after match. Sound familiar?

The red card was justified though. Some feel it was harsh but that's not what the law says, it comes down to judgement. It was also in an end of season tournament, not a major tournament.

The Scotland decision is specifically in the laws of the game.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:32 pm
by bapa
Bomber wrote:Sounds like a whinge to me (yet again)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:35 pm
by God is an Englishman
bapa wrote:
Bomber wrote:Sounds like a whinge to me (yet again)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
God is an Englishman wrote:
bapa wrote:winners are grinners, losers must be poms.......


cry on
:cry:
Did you watch the game?

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:46 pm
by bapa
God is an Englishman wrote:
bapa wrote:
Bomber wrote:Sounds like a whinge to me (yet again)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
God is an Englishman wrote:
bapa wrote:winners are grinners, losers must be poms.......


cry on
:cry:
Did you watch the game?
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Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:12 pm
by God is an Englishman
Did you watch the game?

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:13 pm
by God is an Englishman
bapa wrote: Image
That's quite a close resemblance of you, it's just it's less hairy and a bit taller.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:33 pm
by Steve#4
Steve#4 wrote:Winners are grinners, sport is about the rub of the green sometimes you get it and other times you dont. The Scotts were handed so many opportunities but couldnt win the game, they deserve to be on the bus home. Better side won snd are still in the cup.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:47 am
by God is an Englishman
Steve#4 wrote:
Steve#4 wrote:Winners are grinners, sport is about the rub of the green sometimes you get it and other times you dont. The Scotts were handed so many opportunities but couldnt win the game, they deserve to be on the bus home. Better side won snd are still in the cup.
Correct - Australia getting it a lot in this tournament though

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:46 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Case in point - Grand final, 2009, the early send off of AU's Cristiano against Victory just ten minutes in to the game. They lose 1-0 and red card revoked after match. Sound familiar?

The red card was justified though. Some feel it was harsh but that's not what the law says, it comes down to judgement. It was also in an end of season tournament, not a major tournament.

The Scotland decision is specifically in the laws of the game.
How can something be justified when it was revoked? And a grand final NOT a major "tournament"? :lol:

Bottom line - we've won nothing yet but some of your whining about how we have got there is quite amusing nonetheless.

I'll remember your "it's all the refs fault" stance in future. :wink:

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:57 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Case in point - Grand final, 2009, the early send off of AU's Cristiano against Victory just ten minutes in to the game. They lose 1-0 and red card revoked after match. Sound familiar?

The red card was justified though. Some feel it was harsh but that's not what the law says, it comes down to judgement. It was also in an end of season tournament, not a major tournament.

The Scotland decision is specifically in the laws of the game.
How can something be justified when it was revoked? And a grand final NOT a major "tournament"? :lol:

Bottom line - we've won nothing yet but some of your whining about how we have got there is quite amusing nonetheless.

I'll remember your "it's all the refs fault" stance in future. :wink:
It was revoked but can you show me in the laws where it says it, it specifically says it in the rugby laws.

I think you may have me confused with someone who cares about Scotland. However, facts are simple and undeniable. Major decisions are going your way in this tournament

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:09 am
by Bomber
Many minor decisions going against us - so it evens out. To me, we are in the top 4 in the world, clearly improving under Cheika, so deserve to be where we are. If we are at full strength, I'd rate us second only to the All Blacks at this point in time. Around 18 months ago, I would have had us at about 5th or 6th.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:27 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:Many minor decisions going against us - so it evens out. To me, we are in the top 4 in the world, clearly improving under Cheika, so deserve to be where we are. If we are at full strength, I'd rate us second only to the All Blacks at this point in time. Around 18 months ago, I would have had us at about 5th or 6th.
your defence is certainly strong but not that impressive going forward.

Sometimes the one decision is enough to change a game, eg. England would have made it out of the group if they'd kicked v Wales instead of going for the win.

The minor decisions cannot outweigh the 4 major decisions that have gone in your favour.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:29 am
by God is an Englishman
Who are the other 2 in the top 4?

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:19 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Many minor decisions going against us - so it evens out. To me, we are in the top 4 in the world, clearly improving under Cheika, so deserve to be where we are. If we are at full strength, I'd rate us second only to the All Blacks at this point in time. Around 18 months ago, I would have had us at about 5th or 6th.
your defence is certainly strong but not that impressive going forward.

Sometimes the one decision is enough to change a game, eg. England would have made it out of the group if they'd kicked v Wales instead of going for the win.

The minor decisions cannot outweigh the 4 major decisions that have gone in your favour.
But the minor decisions could have changed the whole landscape of the game and hence these "major" decisions (ie they probably wouldn't have happened).

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:21 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:Who are the other 2 in the top 4?
Saffers and Argies of course! :D

Welsh not far behind, then maybe your lot and the Micks about even after that...........

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:58 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Who are the other 2 in the top 4?
Saffers and Argies of course! :D

Welsh not far behind, then maybe your lot and the Micks about even after that...........
Come on, be serious.

South Africa I'll give you, I'd put them at number two at the moment

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:39 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Who are the other 2 in the top 4?
Saffers and Argies of course! :D

Welsh not far behind, then maybe your lot and the Micks about even after that...........
Come on, be serious.

South Africa I'll give you, I'd put them at number two at the moment
Deadly serious. Top 4 in World Cup are..................???

Plus, Saffers finished last and winless in latest 4 nations, got done by Japan...........no way second.

I treat the six nations tournament as the second division these days.

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:12 pm
by God is an Englishman
NZ
SA
Australia
England/Wales (pretty tight between those two)
Ireland
France
Falklands runners up

Re: Rugby World Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:22 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:NZ
SA
Australia
England/Wales (pretty tight between those two)
Ireland
France
Falklands runners up
Maybe next World Cup.