Dropped for not doing your homework

[God is an Englishman]

Oh australian cricket, the gift that keeps on giving

[Bomber]

Couldnt they get a note signed by one of their parents?

Just highlights the state of cricket in this country at present.

[God is an Englishman]

Matthew Hoggard was laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing was.

"why didn't they just write, bat better bowl better, field better".

[Wraith]

How embarrasment.

[swannsong]

They employ a "coach" who suspends players for not doing the job he is meant to be doing.
I've heard of delegation, but this is taking things a little far....Mickey Arthur might be joining Rini Coolen soon methinks !

[rulebritannia]

this is the australian box ticking culture in a nutshell

[Steve#4]

Matthew Hoggard was laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing was.

"why didn't they just write, bat better bowl better, field better".

Well we have had enough laughs at Hoggards ability over the years so I guess it is only fair...

In saying that Cricket Australia is a basket case at the moment.....

[God is an Englishman]

Matthew Hoggard was laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing was.

"why didn't they just write, bat better bowl better, field better".

Well we have had enough laughs at Hoggards ability over the years so I guess it is only fair...

In saying that Cricket Australia is a basket case at the moment.....

He was a reasonable bowler, I think he'd get in your side at the moment

[rulebritannia]

Matthew Hoggard was laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing was.

"why didn't they just write, bat better bowl better, field better".

Well we have had enough laughs at Hoggards ability over the years so I guess it is only fair...

In saying that Cricket Australia is a basket case at the moment.....

He was a reasonable bowler, I think he'd get in your side at the moment

+1

[DOC]

Sums up the attitude of the players, can't be bothered with this, shows they aren't concerned with a loss

The big rumours are that these blokes along with Lyon were on husseys side of a split in the dressing room between him and Clarke... Clarke is in the top 5 batsmen ATM but his captaincy in India has been poor...

Was hussey pushed?

The attitude of all players needs working on I feel, these 2 spankings in India don't seem to have gotten to many of the touring party

[God is an Englishman]

Clarke is in the top 5 batsmen ATM but his captaincy in India has been poor...

VERY poor in fact.

I don't think he could have stopped the rot but his first test skippering to lyon's bowling was almost like he wanted him to concede runs. It reminded me of village cicket in England, "he hit it there last ball, so let's put a fielder there this ball".

[Jay Walking]

Matthew Hoggard was laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing was.

"why didn't they just write, bat better bowl better, field better".

Well we have had enough laughs at Hoggards ability over the years so I guess it is only fair...

In saying that Cricket Australia is a basket case at the moment.....

He was a reasonable bowler, I think he'd get in your side at the moment

Lets not be silly. Our fast bowling stocks are fine.

Our batting is terrible aside from Clarke and we lack a match winning spinner.

I'm not against what the players had to do as most countries would do this these days but to be dropped for it is a joke. Wouldn't more net sessions or coaching on against spinners be better than a self assessment.

[God is an Englishman]

Lets not be silly. Our fast bowling stocks are fine.

Our batting is terrible aside from Clarke and we lack a match winning spinner.

I'm not against what the players had to do as most countries would do this these days but to be dropped for it is a joke. Wouldn't more net sessions or coaching on against spinners be better than a self assessment.

Look at your true bowlers in the last test

Siddle
Pattinson
2 x spinners
2 x all rounders

Rule out the spinners, if that's the selection.
Rule out the all rounders as you will claim the batting gets them picked. Then again, Clarke only wants 10 batsmen these days anyway.
Pattinson and Siddle - YEP, I'll take HOGGY over both of them.

Starc to come back in - he would win that one and then Johnson

[DOC]

Clarke is in the top 5 batsmen ATM but his captaincy in India has been poor...

VERY poor in fact.

I don't think he could have stopped the rot but his first test skippering to lyon's bowling was almost like he wanted him to concede runs. It reminded me of village cicket in England, "he hit it there last ball, so let's put a fielder there this ball".

exactly, then dropped him even though he bowled some crackers to get his 4 wickets

[Red-4-Life]

In a lot of trouble now. India are going to destroy Australia in the 3rd test and the Ashes series is not looking to bright. If the changeroom is not happy, then I think this "cant be bothered" attitude will just grow among certain players and continue to kill the team.

As for Hussey, his retirement was very sudden. He had a lot left in him so I think there is more to his retirement.

[God is an Englishman]

will it make a difference in india, it's only 1 player from the last test missing.

Arthur said that Johnson and Khawaja forgot, and that Watson and Pattinson had failed to respond inside the five-day deadline. None are thought to have claimed that their submissions were eaten by a dog .

[DOC]

[God is an Englishman]

I'm worried ! If the Aussies continue to pick the team based on IQ I the future ,Toad Fish will pick Joe Mangle and his mates for the ashes

Off for a round of Golf... @BumbleCricket is my partner playing against a couple of posh uns... Done my homework so should get selected!!!!

Wonder what the 4 naughty boys will be doing while the test is on? Re doing there presentation? Lines ! Writing a letter of apology

[Steve#4]

Lets not be silly. Our fast bowling stocks are fine.

Our batting is terrible aside from Clarke and we lack a match winning spinner.

I'm not against what the players had to do as most countries would do this these days but to be dropped for it is a joke. Wouldn't more net sessions or coaching on against spinners be better than a self assessment.

Look at your true bowlers in the last test

Siddle
Pattinson
2 x spinners
2 x all rounders

Rule out the spinners, if that's the selection.
Rule out the all rounders as you will claim the batting gets them picked. Then again, Clarke only wants 10 batsmen these days anyway.
Pattinson and Siddle - YEP, I'll take HOGGY over both of them.

Starc to come back in - he would win that one and then Johnson

Agree with Jay...Unless he has learnt how to spin a ball he would not get a gig in front of Starc/Patterson/Siddle/Cummins (if he can ever get fit)....

[God is an Englishman]

Lets not be silly. Our fast bowling stocks are fine.

Our batting is terrible aside from Clarke and we lack a match winning spinner.

I'm not against what the players had to do as most countries would do this these days but to be dropped for it is a joke. Wouldn't more net sessions or coaching on against spinners be better than a self assessment.

Look at your true bowlers in the last test

Siddle
Pattinson
2 x spinners
2 x all rounders

Rule out the spinners, if that's the selection.
Rule out the all rounders as you will claim the batting gets them picked. Then again, Clarke only wants 10 batsmen these days anyway.
Pattinson and Siddle - YEP, I'll take HOGGY over both of them.

Starc to come back in - he would win that one and then Johnson

Agree with Jay...Unless he has learnt how to spin a ball he would not get a gig in front of Starc/Patterson/Siddle/Cummins (if he can ever get fit)....

have to agree to disagree then because I doubt we're going to change anyone's opinion.

Starc the only one would keep him out in my mind.

[ruud]

the dog obviously ate their homework

[sephiroth]

I'm worried ! If the Aussies continue to pick the team based on IQ I the future ,Toad Fish will pick Joe Mangle and his mates for the ashes

Off for a round of Golf... @BumbleCricket is my partner playing against a couple of posh uns... Done my homework so should get selected!!!!

Wonder what the 4 naughty boys will be doing while the test is on? Re doing there presentation? Lines ! Writing a letter of apology

great banter! love it!

[Chade]

For the old school, it's a bit of a laugh; however, they're very highly paid professionals, and they're paid to do the tasks they're set. Denigrating it as "homework" to me is showing up how unprofessional cricket is.

A better thought-out perspective than those going "lol homwrrk":

A lesson for the Australian cricketer
Yes, the punishment was harsh, but it is time Australia's players took some responsibility
Brydon Coverdale

Put yourself in the position of an Australian cricketer. You have just been part of an embarrassing loss. Humiliating. The tenth-biggest defeat in Australian cricket history. You are gutted, the fans are disgusted. On-field, the judgement shown by players has been poor. Poor shot selection, poor bowling, a poor attitude. The match finishes inside three and a half days. Nobody is happy. Plans have been made and have failed, or have just not been followed.

On the night the match ends, the coach tells you and every other player to go away and think about why things have gone wrong. To consider where you and the team have failed on this tour. To use your own brain instead of having someone else think for you. He asks you to come up with three ideas for how you and the squad can improve. It doesn't matter if you played the first two Tests or not. It doesn't matter if you've made a hundred or taken a five-for. This is about more than just you.

He gives you four days to come back to him. You don't have to write an essay. Bullet points would do. Everyone can manage three bullet points. Or go see the coach and talk through your thoughts in person. Meanwhile, you train on what should have been day five of the Test and travel the next day. You have hours of downtime in airport lounges and on planes. Maybe you listen to music, maybe you watch some movies. Do you think about that embarrassing loss? Do you think about how to improve? The fans are thinking about it. So are the coaches. Are you?

Then you have two days off in Chandigarh. The coach wants you to freshen up. That means no training, it doesn't mean no thinking. That has been made clear to you. Maybe you play golf, maybe you go to the zoo, maybe you take a little trip out of town. Maybe Saturday night comes around and you haven't got back to the coach. But guess what, 12 of your team-mates have. They've been thinking about how the group can improve. Have you?

Perhaps you have no ideas. Then why not come to the coach and tell him that? You're back at training on Sunday. If you haven't been thinking about cricket over the past few days, you damn well should be now. Maybe you just forgot. But if you forgot, how switched on are you? This is the only thing you've had to do and you haven't done it. Where is your head at? Not in the space it needs to be in to play a Test, clearly.

The captain spent his time off making the long trip to the Taj Mahal. You're on good money but he is earning enormous seven-figure amounts. He's also the only batsman who has looked much good on this trip. He's scored a quarter of the team's runs. Like everyone else, he was asked by the coach to complete this one task, even though he has been carrying you. He has done it. Why haven't you?

Monday morning rolls around. The next Test is now only 72 hours away. You've been given a day's grace but have still not done what was asked. Think you're exempt? Think the coach will let it go? He's always smiling, he must be a pushover. After all, other lapses have been allowed to slide on this trip, hell, even before it. They might have been yours, they might not. But within the team there have been lapses. That's the problem. This is the final straw, and you've dropped it on top of the others.

You're out of the team. You won't be considered for the next Test. Nor will three others who failed to complete this one small request. In other weeks, perhaps other players might also have neglected such a task. But this was an embarrassing week for Australian cricket and you couldn't slack off. You've let your team-mates down. Is it a harsh punishment? Definitely. But will you learn from this mistake? You'd better believe it. If you don't, you never will. And then what good are you to the Australian team?

This, the coach said, was the buy-in moment. The time when every player had to commit to the team's methodical philosophy. To the aim of regaining the No. 1 Test ranking. Most of the players have bought in but you haven't. Oh, you still can. But the price has risen since Saturday. If you want to buy in now it's going to cost you a Test match on the sidelines.

You see messages of support from back home. On Twitter, past players are angry. Damien Martyn, Darren Lehmann, Tom Moody. This is not how things were done in the old days. Filling in forms? Writing notes? What's wrong with sorting it all out over a drink in the bar or a feisty team meeting?

Mark Waugh says this is not schoolboy stuff. It's not Under-6s, he says. That's right, you're a grown man with your own brain and you get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, at least, to play this game. You're a professional. So why haven't you acted like one? This is not 1993, it's 2013. This is the modern, ultra-professional era. With big salaries and contracts come responsibilities.

Perhaps you're already learning. Every day you're supposed to fill in wellness reports to allow the fitness and medical staff to assess your health and help work out your training regime. Every day, a few players forget, or just can't be bothered. After the events of this morning, after you let the team down, everyone is on notice. For the first time, every single player submits their report.

Yes, for now it feels like a crisis point for Australian cricket. But a synonym for "crisis point" is "turning point". And if you all buy in to the wider team ethos, there is no reason this should not be a significant turning point for the team under this coach and captain.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-aus ... 24584.html

[God is an Englishman]

lol homwrrk

[God is an Englishman]

Stuart Magill's response was good for me

How was Johnson supposed to fill it in when point 1 would have been

You should pick Mitchell Johnson

[Chade]

lol homwrrk

Stuart Magill's response was good for me

How was Johnson supposed to fill it in when point 1 would have been

You should pick Mitchell Johnson

That's still more than what he did respond with. How hard is that to write in the space of a week?

[God is an Englishman]

lol homwrrk

Stuart Magill's response was good for me

How was Johnson supposed to fill it in when point 1 would have been

You should pick Mitchell Johnson

That's still more than what he did respond with. How hard is that to write in the space of a week?

I can see both sides of the argument.

1. it's the coaches job to work out ways to improve the side and setting the players homework - it's not a schoolboy trip.

2. the coach sets you a task, you do it. Many ways they could have handed it in and still make your point that you think it's ridiculous

scrap of paper, preferably a bar mat. bowl better, field better, bat better would have been my choice. OR on the back of the team sheet. Pick johnston, Pick khawaja, pick pattinson.

Whichever side you want to land on, I'm loving it!

[Bomber]

It looks like Watson has left the tour on his own accord anyway (correct me if Im wrong, been busy today) something to do with being home for birth of child? If thats the case, can his ACB contract be torn up?

[Chade]

I can see both sides of the argument.

1. it's the coaches job to work out ways to improve the side and setting the players homework - it's not a schoolboy trip.

2. the coach sets you a task, you do it. Many ways they could have handed it in and still make your point that you think it's ridiculous

scrap of paper, preferably a bar mat. bowl better, field better, bat better would have been my choice. OR on the back of the team sheet. Pick johnston, Pick khawaja, pick pattinson.

Whichever side you want to land on, I'm loving it!

I don't really see the justification for not doing it apart from deciding that you don't want to be a modern professional sports person. And who wouldn't choose to write a few dot points (and it only had to be a few, not an essay - although I think Warnie reckons that tweets are pretty similar to essays, considering what his ghost-written newspaper articles are like) over doing 20km beach runs from the "good old days"?

Motivation and setting goals is ok for any other accountable occupation - why not for this?

I'm sure you are loving it - but a strong/competitive Australia - as much as for England- is good for the global game.

[God is an Englishman]

It looks like Watson has left the tour on his own accord anyway (correct me if Im wrong, been busy today) something to do with being home for birth of child? If thats the case, can his ACB contract be torn up?

apaprently, he was always leaving after the 3rd test anyway. Since he's not required for this test he has left early.